Re: [SH-Discuss] c-bog
I love this idea Craig. I would definitely second it. Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 01:12:54 -0400 From: mm1...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: [SH-Discuss] c-bog I am working on a proposal for a C-BOG (community build-out group, (hyphen added for awesomeness when saying out loud))In neo-synhak fashion I'm trying to talk with groups of people individually before making a proposal that someone would go as far as to block. As with the last one I researched (laptop-gate era), I'm willing to drop if it will start a civil war. I feel most of our drama comes from too many cooks in the kitchen; the sooner many of us can feel like they can do their own projects again without feeling selfish if they are at the space and not working on infrastructure, the better. It has breed entitlement, countless disagreements on how things must be done, and the worst: fights on who the space owes more. (hint: the answer should be nobody, ever.) The idea of the proposal is to create a separate and temporary standard forman/project-lead/helper organizational structure of volunteers working towards a build-out goal consensed by the membership, funded by a cash-on-card budget (in the area of $2-4k). The treasurer would be instrumental in this process. In my head, this is little more than walls, details, and purchasing of tools so many members who have walked away (during this struggle) have de-donated. Other than the piles of stuff being where the racks were, the place looks mostly the same since March. Thoughts? p.s.If we had a guideline that: don't say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm guessing the bulk of the last few days email would not have been sent thanks to knowledge of what responses words can have when your not looking at your target through a computer screen. We will all see each other again, we live in the same community and share the same love of something that exists at a single physical location. Why people would use such strong words over email instead of directly to their adversary's face I must not grasp. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
Don't forget, you never fixed the 3D Printers X axis, it's still inverted. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 23:26:24 Craig Bergdorf wrote: Just wanted to make sure everyone in the back knew you were still mad huh? No. I've stopped caring if people get my message. I wrote my thesis. If I'm ejected, oh well, there are still hackers in Akron. I've got plans B through F to fall back on. I keep hacking regardless. Folks have an interest in what I do. :) Anyway, looking forward to the kickstarter. Would love to see this give spiff more recognition too. There is a decent inventory scanner downstairs, I don't remember if it's a psion or winCE based one but eitherway it can be made to dump to mysql. Spiff would make actual inventory, loan, skill, and donation tracking a ridiculous amount easier after a large amount of setup. What's involved in feeding an amp or so to a solenoid from this? (spiff based B.F.Tool authentication) Something that would provide me income to continue work on this would be the best answer: http://development.graviton.divshot.io/ It is is 80% ready for a 0.1 release. Last 20% is cleanup and generating python bindings. The kickstarter would fund it. (Remember when people did cool things at synhak?) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 22:43:09 Philip P. Patnode wrote: TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? Well, it was going to be for SYNHAK's front door. I'm not sure about that anymore, but keep an eye out for a kickstarter this month from Phong Robotics about a hackerspace entry system. More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
andy: perhaps you should switch to one of the several angry threads, this is a light-hearted and happy one. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote: Don't forget, you never fixed the 3D Printers X axis, it's still inverted. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 23:26:24 Craig Bergdorf wrote: Just wanted to make sure everyone in the back knew you were still mad huh? No. I've stopped caring if people get my message. I wrote my thesis. If I'm ejected, oh well, there are still hackers in Akron. I've got plans B through F to fall back on. I keep hacking regardless. Folks have an interest in what I do. :) Anyway, looking forward to the kickstarter. Would love to see this give spiff more recognition too. There is a decent inventory scanner downstairs, I don't remember if it's a psion or winCE based one but eitherway it can be made to dump to mysql. Spiff would make actual inventory, loan, skill, and donation tracking a ridiculous amount easier after a large amount of setup. What's involved in feeding an amp or so to a solenoid from this? (spiff based B.F.Tool authentication) Something that would provide me income to continue work on this would be the best answer: http://development.graviton.divshot.io/ It is is 80% ready for a 0.1 release. Last 20% is cleanup and generating python bindings. The kickstarter would fund it. (Remember when people did cool things at synhak?) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 22:43:09 Philip P. Patnode wrote: TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? Well, it was going to be for SYNHAK's front door. I'm not sure about that anymore, but keep an eye out for a kickstarter this month from Phong Robotics about a hackerspace entry system. More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] c-bog
Craig, Add me to the list. I will be happy to help in any way I can. A good plan and a project leader will be an effective solution to the chaos now in progress. Philip On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:17 AM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: I love this idea Craig. I would definitely second it. -- Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 01:12:54 -0400 From: mm1...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: [SH-Discuss] c-bog I am working on a proposal for a C-BOG (community build-out group, (hyphen added for awesomeness when saying out loud)) In neo-synhak fashion I'm trying to talk with groups of people individually before making a proposal that someone would go as far as to block. As with the last one I researched (laptop-gate era), I'm willing to drop if it will start a civil war. I feel most of our drama comes from too many cooks in the kitchen; the sooner many of us can feel like they can do their own projects again without feeling selfish if they are at the space and not working on infrastructure, the better. It has breed entitlement, countless disagreements on how things must be done, and the worst: fights on who the space owes more. (hint: the answer should be nobody, ever.) The idea of the proposal is to create a separate and temporary standard forman/project-lead/helper organizational structure of volunteers working towards a build-out goal consensed by the membership, funded by a cash-on-card budget (in the area of $2-4k). The treasurer would be instrumental in this process. In my head, this is little more than walls, details, and purchasing of tools so many members who have walked away (during this struggle) have de-donated. Other than the piles of stuff being where the racks were, the place looks mostly the same since March. Thoughts? p.s. If we had a guideline that: don't say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm guessing the bulk of the last few days email would not have been sent thanks to knowledge of what responses words can have when your not looking at your target through a computer screen. We will all see each other again, we live in the same community and share the same love of something that exists at a single physical location. Why people would use such strong words over email instead of directly to their adversary's face I must not grasp. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
On Friday, May 02, 2014 04:54:32 Andrew Buczko wrote: Don't forget, you never fixed the 3D Printers X axis, it's still inverted. Nice! Seven mails in and I'm blamed for ruining SYNHAK. But don't forget, I started it! I'm the provoker according to Andy :) I don't think I need to explain again why I feel unsafe, or who is causing a toxic environment. Andy, just fix it on your own. Grow up. I'm not your freaking boss, and I'm not going to be your punching bag. You can either quit being a raging asshole to me, leave the community, be removed by the community, or I'll leave this toxic environment. PROTIP: A video on how open source projects survive poisonous people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 23:26:24 Craig Bergdorf wrote: Just wanted to make sure everyone in the back knew you were still mad huh? No. I've stopped caring if people get my message. I wrote my thesis. If I'm ejected, oh well, there are still hackers in Akron. I've got plans B through F to fall back on. I keep hacking regardless. Folks have an interest in what I do. :) Anyway, looking forward to the kickstarter. Would love to see this give spiff more recognition too. There is a decent inventory scanner downstairs, I don't remember if it's a psion or winCE based one but eitherway it can be made to dump to mysql. Spiff would make actual inventory, loan, skill, and donation tracking a ridiculous amount easier after a large amount of setup. What's involved in feeding an amp or so to a solenoid from this? (spiff based B.F.Tool authentication) Something that would provide me income to continue work on this would be the best answer: http://development.graviton.divshot.io/ It is is 80% ready for a 0.1 release. Last 20% is cleanup and generating python bindings. The kickstarter would fund it. (Remember when people did cool things at synhak?) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 22:43:09 Philip P. Patnode wrote: TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? Well, it was going to be for SYNHAK's front door. I'm not sure about that anymore, but keep an eye out for a kickstarter this month from Phong Robotics about a hackerspace entry system. More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] more photos
FYI Just uploaded 15 more photos to my Flickr account for pics I take at SYN/HAK. link = https://www.flickr.com/photos/119094119@N03/ All of the current photos were taken on April 22nd at the SH weekly meeting or on April 27th/28th at SH. Feel free to share them with anybody or print them or upload them to Facebook/Twitter, as long as you are doing it for personal reasons, not for commercial purposes. All of these photos will appear on the SH display wall as 4x6 prints in the near future. Please do not remove any prints from the wall! Enjoy! Philip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance?
Having trouble getting onto the website, is someone working on the server? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance?
MG, Is your computer plugged in and turned on? Just checking, because the website is working fine for me. Now at SH and the site is accessible from the kiosk and from my laptop. No apparent problems. Try a 20oz hammer upside the right side of the case. PPP On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote: Having trouble getting onto the website, is someone working on the server? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance?
Not working for me or Becca either Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 19:15:57 -0400 From: ppatn...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance? MG, Is your computer plugged in and turned on? Just checking, because the website is working fine for me. Now at SH and the site is accessible from the kiosk and from my laptop. No apparent problems. Try a 20oz hammer upside the right side of the case. PPP On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: Having trouble getting onto the website, is someone working on the server? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance?
But that is on our mobile phones On May 2, 2014 7:17 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: Not working for me or Becca either -- Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 19:15:57 -0400 From: ppatn...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance? MG, Is your computer plugged in and turned on? Just checking, because the website is working fine for me. Now at SH and the site is accessible from the kiosk and from my laptop. No apparent problems. Try a 20oz hammer upside the right side of the case. PPP On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote: Having trouble getting onto the website, is someone working on the server? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance?
Buy more hammers. It is working on three different computers here at SH. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: Not working for me or Becca either -- Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 19:15:57 -0400 From: ppatn...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance? MG, Is your computer plugged in and turned on? Just checking, because the website is working fine for me. Now at SH and the site is accessible from the kiosk and from my laptop. No apparent problems. Try a 20oz hammer upside the right side of the case. PPP On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote: Having trouble getting onto the website, is someone working on the server? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance?
Accessible from my iphone Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: Buy more hammers. It is working on three different computers here at SH. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: Not working for me or Becca either Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 19:15:57 -0400 From: ppatn...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Website under for maintenance? MG, Is your computer plugged in and turned on? Just checking, because the website is working fine for me. Now at SH and the site is accessible from the kiosk and from my laptop. No apparent problems. Try a 20oz hammer upside the right side of the case. PPP On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: Having trouble getting onto the website, is someone working on the server? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Makerbadges?
Have at it. Synhak takes donations but it is not required. Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2014, at 8:01 PM, William Schaffer wschaff...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I'm at Synhak and I found these over in the electronics lab.. Is it ok to put one together, or are they meant to be sold or something? Let me know! Thanks, Will 20140502_195801_resized.jpg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] weird donation - snake skin (yikes!)
FYI A local inhabitant from the suburbs donated the cast-off skin of a four-foot long Boa Constrictor* this evening. There is one long piece that seems to be complete, less the head. There are three smaller pieces of skin in the bag. Anybody out there want to claim the skin pieces and make something cool? Whomever is interested can find it in a brown bag, in the craft room. PPP -- *details Scientific Classification = Kingdom = Animalia Phylum = Chordata Subphylum =Vertebrata Class = Reptilia Order = Squamata Suborder = Serpentes Family = Boidae Subfamily = Boinae Genus = Boa Species =B. constrictor Binomial Name = Boa Constrictor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Oscilloscope?
Also guys, I hooked the Oscilloscope up in the EE lab, but I can't find any probes to hook up to it. Do we have any? Just curious. Thanks! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] weird donation - snake skin (yikes!)
Did they clean it? On May 2, 2014 8:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: FYI A local inhabitant from the suburbs donated the cast-off skin of a four-foot long Boa Constrictor* this evening. There is one long piece that seems to be complete, less the head. There are three smaller pieces of skin in the bag. Anybody out there want to claim the skin pieces and make something cool? Whomever is interested can find it in a brown bag, in the craft room. PPP -- *details Scientific Classification = Kingdom = Animalia Phylum = Chordata Subphylum =Vertebrata Class = Reptilia Order = Squamata Suborder = Serpentes Family = Boidae Subfamily = Boinae Genus = Boa Species =B. constrictor Binomial Name = Boa Constrictor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Makerbadges?
They are leftovers from our Learn to Solder demos at the Akron Mini-MakerFaire. I'm sure we'll keep using them for demos but feel free to hone your skills! regards, Andrew L On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Robert Rybicki rob...@robertrybicki.comwrote: Have at it. Synhak takes donations but it is not required. Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2014, at 8:01 PM, William Schaffer wschaff...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I'm at Synhak and I found these over in the electronics lab.. Is it ok to put one together, or are they meant to be sold or something? Let me know! Thanks, Will 20140502_195801_resized.jpg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Oscilloscope?
As far as I know they are in the proverbial 'box somewhere' I'd start looking near the EE lab and then expand rescue efforts to the basement if you still have trouble. regards, Andrew L On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM, William Schaffer wschaff...@gmail.comwrote: Also guys, I hooked the Oscilloscope up in the EE lab, but I can't find any probes to hook up to it. Do we have any? Just curious. Thanks! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] friday hours shortened by 15min
FYI The space will be closing at 9.45pm tonight. Nobody but Will Shaffer and I are here and he is leaving soon. The movie will be postponed and shown at a later date. I am taking all the popcorn home with me. OK, bye. Philip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] c-bog
Does this -need- a proposal to happen? Historically we have reserved proposals to large changes to how the community conducts it's business. Organizing projects to avoid squished toes and bruised egos is great, but I guess I'm not sure we need an official structured work group to get shelves built or pallet floors put together. I don't have any hard issues with this(ie; would not block) on the face, just wondering if we -need- an official-on-the-books rule to accomplish it. Was this the same problem build@ and bizops@ were supposed to solve? Related: If we make this, will it actually get used? We have a history of poor communication. regards, Andrew L On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Craig, Add me to the list. I will be happy to help in any way I can. A good plan and a project leader will be an effective solution to the chaos now in progress. Philip On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:17 AM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: I love this idea Craig. I would definitely second it. -- Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 01:12:54 -0400 From: mm1...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: [SH-Discuss] c-bog I am working on a proposal for a C-BOG (community build-out group, (hyphen added for awesomeness when saying out loud)) In neo-synhak fashion I'm trying to talk with groups of people individually before making a proposal that someone would go as far as to block. As with the last one I researched (laptop-gate era), I'm willing to drop if it will start a civil war. I feel most of our drama comes from too many cooks in the kitchen; the sooner many of us can feel like they can do their own projects again without feeling selfish if they are at the space and not working on infrastructure, the better. It has breed entitlement, countless disagreements on how things must be done, and the worst: fights on who the space owes more. (hint: the answer should be nobody, ever.) The idea of the proposal is to create a separate and temporary standard forman/project-lead/helper organizational structure of volunteers working towards a build-out goal consensed by the membership, funded by a cash-on-card budget (in the area of $2-4k). The treasurer would be instrumental in this process. In my head, this is little more than walls, details, and purchasing of tools so many members who have walked away (during this struggle) have de-donated. Other than the piles of stuff being where the racks were, the place looks mostly the same since March. Thoughts? p.s. If we had a guideline that: don't say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm guessing the bulk of the last few days email would not have been sent thanks to knowledge of what responses words can have when your not looking at your target through a computer screen. We will all see each other again, we live in the same community and share the same love of something that exists at a single physical location. Why people would use such strong words over email instead of directly to their adversary's face I must not grasp. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] c-bog
No consensus is needed in my opinion. Just plan a meeting and see who shows up. On May 2, 2014 9:16 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: Does this -need- a proposal to happen? Historically we have reserved proposals to large changes to how the community conducts it's business. Organizing projects to avoid squished toes and bruised egos is great, but I guess I'm not sure we need an official structured work group to get shelves built or pallet floors put together. I don't have any hard issues with this(ie; would not block) on the face, just wondering if we -need- an official-on-the-books rule to accomplish it. Was this the same problem build@ and bizops@ were supposed to solve? Related: If we make this, will it actually get used? We have a history of poor communication. regards, Andrew L On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: Craig, Add me to the list. I will be happy to help in any way I can. A good plan and a project leader will be an effective solution to the chaos now in progress. Philip On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:17 AM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: I love this idea Craig. I would definitely second it. Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 01:12:54 -0400 From: mm1...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: [SH-Discuss] c-bog I am working on a proposal for a C-BOG (community build-out group, (hyphen added for awesomeness when saying out loud)) In neo-synhak fashion I'm trying to talk with groups of people individually before making a proposal that someone would go as far as to block. As with the last one I researched (laptop-gate era), I'm willing to drop if it will start a civil war. I feel most of our drama comes from too many cooks in the kitchen; the sooner many of us can feel like they can do their own projects again without feeling selfish if they are at the space and not working on infrastructure, the better. It has breed entitlement, countless disagreements on how things must be done, and the worst: fights on who the space owes more. (hint: the answer should be nobody, ever.) The idea of the proposal is to create a separate and temporary standard forman/project-lead/helper organizational structure of volunteers working towards a build-out goal consensed by the membership, funded by a cash-on-card budget (in the area of $2-4k). The treasurer would be instrumental in this process. In my head, this is little more than walls, details, and purchasing of tools so many members who have walked away (during this struggle) have de-donated. Other than the piles of stuff being where the racks were, the place looks mostly the same since March. Thoughts? p.s. If we had a guideline that: don't say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm guessing the bulk of the last few days email would not have been sent thanks to knowledge of what responses words can have when your not looking at your target through a computer screen. We will all see each other again, we live in the same community and share the same love of something that exists at a single physical location. Why people would use such strong words over email instead of directly to their adversary's face I must not grasp. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] weird donation - snake skin (yikes!)
Becca, I doubt it. Looks like somebody found it on a trail in the woods and picked it up. It is now in a closed brown paper bag, in the craft room closet. Philip On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com wrote: Did they clean it? On May 2, 2014 8:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: FYI A local inhabitant from the suburbs donated the cast-off skin of a four-foot long Boa Constrictor* this evening. There is one long piece that seems to be complete, less the head. There are three smaller pieces of skin in the bag. Anybody out there want to claim the skin pieces and make something cool? Whomever is interested can find it in a brown bag, in the craft room. PPP -- *details Scientific Classification = Kingdom = Animalia Phylum = Chordata Subphylum =Vertebrata Class = Reptilia Order = Squamata Suborder = Serpentes Family = Boidae Subfamily = Boinae Genus = Boa Species =B. constrictor Binomial Name = Boa Constrictor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] weird donation - snake skin (yikes!)
Just asking because snakes carry salmonella... Just want to make sure every one handles it properly On May 2, 2014 9:39 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: Becca, I doubt it. Looks like somebody found it on a trail in the woods and picked it up. It is now in a closed brown paper bag, in the craft room closet. Philip On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com wrote: Did they clean it? On May 2, 2014 8:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: FYI A local inhabitant from the suburbs donated the cast-off skin of a four-foot long Boa Constrictor* this evening. There is one long piece that seems to be complete, less the head. There are three smaller pieces of skin in the bag. Anybody out there want to claim the skin pieces and make something cool? Whomever is interested can find it in a brown bag, in the craft room. PPP -- *details Scientific Classification = Kingdom = Animalia Phylum = Chordata Subphylum =Vertebrata Class = Reptilia Order = Squamata Suborder = Serpentes Family = Boidae Subfamily = Boinae Genus = Boa Species =B. constrictor Binomial Name = Boa Constrictor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] C-BOG - the awakening
It seems there is no opposition to this so: 1st meeting of C-BOG, How about Monday the 12th @ 7pm? Goals: - Meet everyone who will be a part of the planning phase. - Consense what is the minimum acceptable amount of buildout to tackle. If significant conflict arises a cumulative voting system can be used. (an example with made up numbers: there are 20 items to vote for and only 10 can win, everyone gets 20 votes, you can use all 20 on 1, or 3 on one, 5 on another one, etc.) - Establish a team leader for each category (walls, plumbing, electrical, hvac) and document intended tasks. - Schedule the next meeting for each team leader to present a budget, timeline, and hours of skilled/unskilled volunteer time requested. - Post minutes to discuss. In addition to moderating, I volunteer to head electrical, (including: stove, shop 3Ø, kiln, entry lighting repair, and upstairs cat5). The basement raised floor is, for me, in the can-wait category, downstairs storage and the air compressor I believe is not, but I look forward to debate. -- Armed with a list of do-able tasks, each with dollar, time, hour estimates a final presentation at a Tuesday meeting can happen. The membership, treasurer, and c-bog can consense on what must be done, what can be done, and what could wait. Money is dispersed, and work begins. A few open come help us, we have pizza days with clear lists of tasks for volunteers to pick and choose from can be advertised. - What should be on the list of infrastructure shortcomings currently impeding hacking? (shout them out!) Machine shop has no power, ventilation, air, or lighting Stove has no power or ventilation We have insufficient storage, especially for large items The basement is a giant do-not-hack pile simply because it’s not sorted. There is no hack pile Walls What else? I hope to present a list of *everything* anyone says in this thread, email, slack, or written on the back of a camshaft position sensor for a b5 volkswagon and mailed to me (anyone listen to the cartalk radioshow?) at the first meeting for discussion. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
