Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question
Hi all, Am disappointed with the way GNURadio is getting into. I see all the discussion around is to promote the products of Ettus Research. Agreed!. Great work from Ettus Research. But there are many boards available which are far better in capability vs price. I don't want to mention them here to deviate the concern. During the market for USRP1, no one in the forum focused discussion on embedded platform. When queries regarding any such embedded platform was posted, there were lot of quotes saying GNURadio is focused on developing SDR framework based on Desktop based solution. With Ettus Research coming out with USRP E100, everyone on is bouncing on embedded platform. I wonder; Is GNURadio biased with Ettus Reserch ?. My obvious understanding is NO!. Its the community of people driving Ettus products into market. The potential of doing so is to make money. Either way, Ettus Research is now part of National Instruments and may be now GNURadio be delinked with Ettus Research for being open source. There are many people who can contribute low cost open source solutions. Initially, all the Hardware and software was part of GNURadio. All the files was part of free source available to download and use. In around a year or so all the files from GNURadio were moved out separating hardware and software. All the hardware related files were not available after this. Why so, no one knows. The boards when purchased from Ettus Research it was under terms and conditions as free open source schematics for motherboard and free open source schematics and pcb files. Its time now for the community of people interested in building free open source platform including both software and Hardware to come out with an complete open source low cost solution. S--- On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.comwrote: HI Tom, I am afraid not, first of all OMAP is under export restriction from the US government that means it can not be sold (or should not be sold) without US export control. Second, this board is a nice toy, but I can not justify $1300 for the functionality that E100 gives. Best regards, Farhad -- *From:* Tom Rondeau trondeau1...@gmail.com *To:* Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.com *Cc:* discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org *Sent:* Mon, January 17, 2011 6:27:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question That sounds like a reasonable approach. When you're ready, you should probably look at the Ettus USRP-E100, which uses an ARM-based OMAP processor. That seems like it's pretty much the form-factor you are looking for. Tom ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question
HI Tom, I am afraid not, first of all OMAP is under export restriction from the US government that means it can not be sold (or should not be sold) without US export control. Second, this board is a nice toy, but I can not justify $1300 for the functionality that E100 gives. Best regards, Farhad From: Tom Rondeau trondeau1...@gmail.com To: Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.com Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 6:27:40 PM Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question That sounds like a reasonable approach. When you're ready, you should probably look at the Ettus USRP-E100, which uses an ARM-based OMAP processor. That seems like it's pretty much the form-factor you are looking for. Tom ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am a newcomer on this list and would like to first introduce myself. I am a HW design engineer with over 20 years of experience in designing various electronic and systems including a working base station based on SW radio in 1999 with a team of engineers at Ericsson Radio Access in Sweden, a system that managed to support multiple mobiles systems including NMT, GSM, AMPS, DAMPS and DECT using a number of FPGAs and DSPs. My specialty is FPGA design and I would like to move some of the GNU radio blocks into an FPGA to make it possible to run the SW part on a low end processor such as ARM9 or similar. After many years, I came back to into the field of working on a RBS design and found the wonderful project called Gnu Radio :) Now, my questions, I wonder if anyone here has ever looked into using some old FPGA boards such Avnemt Memec Virtex-II pro board with P160 analog interface board together with Gnu Radio? The reason I am asking this is that I have a few of these boards from previous project and I believe they could be great HW for a quick start of the GR design with minimum amount of investment. Thanks in advance and best regards, Farhad Abdolian Antibes, France ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am a newcomer on this list and would like to first introduce myself. I am a HW design engineer with over 20 years of experience in designing various electronic and systems including a working base station based on SW radio in 1999 with a team of engineers at Ericsson Radio Access in Sweden, a system that managed to support multiple mobiles systems including NMT, GSM, AMPS, DAMPS and DECT using a number of FPGAs and DSPs. My specialty is FPGA design and I would like to move some of the GNU radio blocks into an FPGA to make it possible to run the SW part on a low end processor such as ARM9 or similar. After many years, I came back to into the field of working on a RBS design and found the wonderful project called Gnu Radio :) Now, my questions, I wonder if anyone here has ever looked into using some old FPGA boards such Avnemt Memec Virtex-II pro board with P160 analog interface board together with Gnu Radio? The reason I am asking this is that I have a few of these boards from previous project and I believe they could be great HW for a quick start of the GR design with minimum amount of investment. Thanks in advance and best regards, Farhad Abdolian Antibes, France Hi Farhad, I have not heard of anyone using the Avnemt Memec board for GNU Radio. What are your plans with it? From a quick read about the product, I was wondering if you were thinking of trying to get GNU Radio to run on the internal PowerPC or to make the Memec board a peripheral front end and pass samples back to a host computer. I didn't look closely enough at the board to know what it's external interfaces might be (USB, Ethernet, PCI, etc.). I didn't see what kind of PowerPC they are using, so you'd have to ask yourself if it is powerful enough to do what you want onboard or if you want to offload it to a more capable processor. Let us know if you're making any progress on it. Tom ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question
Hi Tom, I am giving up on that idea, as much as I love my old boards, it seems like porting the Gnu Radio to that processor it is not worth much at this stage since the processor is too slow for any serious processing compare to modern Cortex A8 based processors. I think I have to learn to walk before I start a marathon :) so for now I am learning the basics of GR and use the audio card as the data source together with a small board I 'breadboard':ed for this. Maybe my next step will be to use the Friendly ARM board with the GR, but I am not sure, I am still hopping on one foot! Best regards, /Farhad From: Tom Rondeau trondeau1...@gmail.com To: Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.com Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 5:53:09 PM Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question Hi Farhad, I have not heard of anyone using the Avnemt Memec board for GNU Radio. What are your plans with it? From a quick read about the product, I was wondering if you were thinking of trying to get GNU Radio to run on the internal PowerPC or to make the Memec board a peripheral front end and pass samples back to a host computer. I didn't look closely enough at the board to know what it's external interfaces might be (USB, Ethernet, PCI, etc.). I didn't see what kind of PowerPC they are using, so you'd have to ask yourself if it is powerful enough to do what you want onboard or if you want to offload it to a more capable processor. Let us know if you're making any progress on it. Tom On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am a newcomer on this list and would like to first introduce myself. I am a HW design engineer with over 20 years of experience in designing various electronic and systems including a working base station based on SW radio in 1999 with a team of engineers at Ericsson Radio Access in Sweden, a system that managed to support multiple mobiles systems including NMT, GSM, AMPS, DAMPS and DECT using a number of FPGAs and DSPs. My specialty is FPGA design and I would like to move some of the GNU radio blocks into an FPGA to make it possible to run the SW part on a low end processor such as ARM9 or similar. After many years, I came back to into the field of working on a RBS design and found the wonderful project called Gnu Radio :) Now, my questions, I wonder if anyone here has ever looked into using some old FPGA boards such Avnemt Memec Virtex-II pro board with P160 analog interface board together with Gnu Radio? The reason I am asking this is that I have a few of these boards from previous project and I believe they could be great HW for a quick start of the GR design with minimum amount of investment. Thanks in advance and best regards, Farhad Abdolian Antibes, France ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Tom, I am giving up on that idea, as much as I love my old boards, it seems like porting the Gnu Radio to that processor it is not worth much at this stage since the processor is too slow for any serious processing compare to modern Cortex A8 based processors. I think I have to learn to walk before I start a marathon :) so for now I am learning the basics of GR and use the audio card as the data source together with a small board I 'breadboard':ed for this. Maybe my next step will be to use the Friendly ARM board with the GR, but I am not sure, I am still hopping on one foot! Best regards, /Farhad That sounds like a reasonable approach. When you're ready, you should probably look at the Ettus USRP-E100, which uses an ARM-based OMAP processor. That seems like it's pretty much the form-factor you are looking for. Tom From: Tom Rondeau trondeau1...@gmail.com To: Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.com Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 5:53:09 PM Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question Hi Farhad, I have not heard of anyone using the Avnemt Memec board for GNU Radio. What are your plans with it? From a quick read about the product, I was wondering if you were thinking of trying to get GNU Radio to run on the internal PowerPC or to make the Memec board a peripheral front end and pass samples back to a host computer. I didn't look closely enough at the board to know what it's external interfaces might be (USB, Ethernet, PCI, etc.). I didn't see what kind of PowerPC they are using, so you'd have to ask yourself if it is powerful enough to do what you want onboard or if you want to offload it to a more capable processor. Let us know if you're making any progress on it. Tom On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Farhad Abdolian f.abdol...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am a newcomer on this list and would like to first introduce myself. I am a HW design engineer with over 20 years of experience in designing various electronic and systems including a working base station based on SW radio in 1999 with a team of engineers at Ericsson Radio Access in Sweden, a system that managed to support multiple mobiles systems including NMT, GSM, AMPS, DAMPS and DECT using a number of FPGAs and DSPs. My specialty is FPGA design and I would like to move some of the GNU radio blocks into an FPGA to make it possible to run the SW part on a low end processor such as ARM9 or similar. After many years, I came back to into the field of working on a RBS design and found the wonderful project called Gnu Radio :) Now, my questions, I wonder if anyone here has ever looked into using some old FPGA boards such Avnemt Memec Virtex-II pro board with P160 analog interface board together with Gnu Radio? The reason I am asking this is that I have a few of these boards from previous project and I believe they could be great HW for a quick start of the GR design with minimum amount of investment. Thanks in advance and best regards, Farhad Abdolian Antibes, France ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
[Discuss-gnuradio] Greeting and a question
Hi everyone, I am a newcomer on this list and would like to first introduce myself. I am a HW design engineer with over 20 years of experience in designing various electronic and systems including a working base station based on SW radio in 1999 with a team of engineers at Ericsson Radio Access in Sweden, a system that managed to support multiple mobiles systems including NMT, GSM, AMPS, DAMPS and DECT using a number of FPGAs and DSPs. My specialty is FPGA design and I would like to move some of the GNU radio blocks into an FPGA to make it possible to run the SW part on a low end processor such as ARM9 or similar. After many years, I came back to into the field of working on a RBS design and found the wonderful project called Gnu Radio :) Now, my questions, I wonder if anyone here has ever looked into using some old FPGA boards such Avnemt Memec Virtex-II pro board with P160 analog interface board together with Gnu Radio? The reason I am asking this is that I have a few of these boards from previous project and I believe they could be great HW for a quick start of the GR design with minimum amount of investment. Thanks in advance and best regards, Farhad Abdolian Antibes, France ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
