Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP, GNURADIO, WINDOWS, APPLICATION HELP
Can u be more specifc on the 'big' error? I use virtualbox all the time, never have issues Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Sam Evans wrote: Hi William, thank you very much for your answer. I don't really like Linux because it has many problems. As I'm writing you this message I'm installing Ubuntu on a VirtualPC, everything was OK, but when files were copied to the Virtual drive it gave me a BIG error, some I/O error while copying, so this is what I'm talking about, many problems and is very slow compared to Windows. Anyway I will try to install some older versions, maybe I will have some luck to install it. I would like to make the biggest part by myself, not using LabView or Matlab and neither Linux. What I would like to do is to use Windows environment, to install GNU Radio, emulate python in a OOP environment, meaning -> execute scripts in a software and get out data. I don't want to use USRP and GNU Radio to see waveforms (only at the begining when I will try it out and when I will write the script), I want to transfer data, to communicate with other wireless devices, etc. I want to use it in the practical side to transfer data, if I could get 2 bytes of data from a wireless device using microcontroller it would be heaven. This is the hardest part, to transfer my first byte of data, after tha I could make some nice things, nice systems. Thank you very much for your answer and I would be very happy to receive any idea from anybody. Best regards, Sam Evans. From: William Cox To: Sam Evans ; GNU Radio Discussion Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 6:50:50 PM Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP, GNURADIO, WINDOWS, APPLICATION HELP Sam, Coming from a Windows user, I have to say that switching to Ubuntu was 1) extremely easy and 2) greatly accelerated my understand and ability to use GNURadio/USRP - mainly because I could use the GRC, which is a Labview-like graphical interface to GNURadio and USRP. I'd *highly* recommend giving it a shot first, at least to learn with, before trying Windows development. That's my 0.02. YMMV. Also check out the Simulink libraries - I think they're linked from Ettus.com -William On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Sam Evans wrote: Hi everybody, I would like to ask some questions regarding USRP. I really need some help. I got my USRP with a WBX and LP0410. I work on a computer running Windows XP. After I read many thing about how to install the GNU Radio in Windows environment I could install it using MingW. I used the gnuinstall.py python script like many others but when I tried to run my first script in python I got an error message ImportError: No module named gnuradio. I don't know what is the problem, the gnuradio is installed, the latest one GNU Radio 3.3.0. Could anybody help me with some ideas, how to make it work, and what I'm missing. The second question would be. I would like to use the GNU Radio for a real application. I want to make a .NET application with Delphi Prism and to be able to get data from USRP an set data. There are many informations out there to emulate python (there are even DLL files) to be able to run python scripts from a .NET application. What I want is to exchange data with some devices running on 2 ISM bands (433 and 868). I will make an application with Visual Studio 2010 and I would like to be abel to read data through python script, interprete data and display in the form as some value or a therometer showing the value sent by a device. Wireless devices will have ASK, OOK modulation, some simple stuff. Anybody have made something like this and could help me to start it, I'll make all the work but I need some help from those who already made something like this. Do you have any other idea how could I implement this, what other solution do exists? A alternative would be to use LabView but there are problems, too. No documentation or some help. It would be very good to have some DLL files that would implement functions and interface to the USB data, but even if I was searching for a long time, I couldn't find anything. I'm opened to any suggestion, because right now I'm stuck, I don't have any idea. Thank you very much for any idea. I wish everybody a nice day. Best regards, Sam Evans. ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP, GNURADIO, WINDOWS, APPLICATION HELP
thank you very much for your answer. I don't really like Linux because it has many problems. As I'm writing you this message I'm installing Ubuntu on a VirtualPC, everything was OK, but when files were copied to the Virtual drive it gave me a BIG error, some I/O error while copying, so this is what I'm talking about, many problems and is very slow compared to Windows. Flamewar much? Of course its slower, its a virtual machine; and of course it crashed, you were running it on windows! BTW I have a virtual windows running on ubuntu to test UHD compilation. Its slow compared to its host system, but not many problems in the crashing department. Virtualbox FYI Lb4lb, I have found windows to be frustrating as a development environment, and more sluggish with the IO. However, both platforms crash in their own ways and lack support in their own ways. If you just want to get some samples in and out of a USRP2 without using gnuradio as a DSP library then you can use the UHD which builds native on windows: http://ettus-apps.sourcerepo.com/redmine/ettus/projects/uhd/wiki It has USRP1 support, but I have not tested libusb1.0 under windows. So, that being uncharted territory at the moment... -Josh ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP, GNURADIO, WINDOWS, APPLICATION HELP
Hi William, thank you very much for your answer. I don't really like Linux because it has many problems. As I'm writing you this message I'm installing Ubuntu on a VirtualPC, everything was OK, but when files were copied to the Virtual drive it gave me a BIG error, some I/O error while copying, so this is what I'm talking about, many problems and is very slow compared to Windows. Anyway I will try to install some older versions, maybe I will have some luck to install it. I would like to make the biggest part by myself, not using LabView or Matlab and neither Linux. What I would like to do is to use Windows environment, to install GNU Radio, emulate python in a OOP environment, meaning -> execute scripts in a software and get out data. I don't want to use USRP and GNU Radio to see waveforms (only at the begining when I will try it out and when I will write the script), I want to transfer data, to communicate with other wireless devices, etc. I want to use it in the practical side to transfer data, if I could get 2 bytes of data from a wireless device using microcontroller it would be heaven. This is the hardest part, to transfer my first byte of data, after tha I could make some nice things, nice systems. Thank you very much for your answer and I would be very happy to receive any idea from anybody. Best regards, Sam Evans. From: William Cox To: Sam Evans ; GNU Radio Discussion Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 6:50:50 PM Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP, GNURADIO, WINDOWS, APPLICATION HELP Sam, Coming from a Windows user, I have to say that switching to Ubuntu was 1) extremely easy and 2) greatly accelerated my understand and ability to use GNURadio/USRP - mainly because I could use the GRC, which is a Labview-like graphical interface to GNURadio and USRP. I'd *highly* recommend giving it a shot first, at least to learn with, before trying Windows development. That's my 0.02. YMMV. Also check out the Simulink libraries - I think they're linked from Ettus.com -William On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Sam Evans wrote: Hi everybody, > > I would like to ask some questions regarding USRP. I really need some >help. >I got my USRP with a WBX and LP0410. I work on a computer running Windows XP. >After I read many thing about how to install the GNU Radio in Windows >environment I could install it using MingW. > > > I used the gnuinstall.py python script like many others but when I tried >to >run my first script in python I got an error message ImportError: No module >named gnuradio. I don't know what is the problem, the gnuradio is installed, >the >latest one GNU Radio 3.3.0. > > Could anybody help me with some ideas, how to make it work, and what I'm >missing. > > The second question would be. I would like to use the GNU Radio for a real >application. I want to make a .NET application with Delphi Prism and to be >able >to get data from USRP an set data. There are many informations out there to >emulate python (there are even DLL files) to be able to run python scripts >from >a .NET application. What I want is to exchange data with some devices running >on >2 ISM bands (433 and 868). I will make an application with Visual Studio 2010 >and I would like to be abel to read data through python script, interprete >data >and display in the form as some value or a therometer showing the value sent >by >a device. Wireless devices will have ASK, OOK modulation, some simple stuff. >Anybody have made something like this and could help me to start it, I'll make >all the work but I need some help from those who already made something like >this. > > Do you have any other idea how could I implement this, what other solution >do exists? A alternative would be to use LabView but there are problems, too. >No >documentation or some help. It would be very good to have some DLL files that >would implement functions and interface to the USB data, but even if I was >searching for a long time, I couldn't find anything. > > I'm opened to any suggestion, because right now I'm stuck, I don't have >any >idea. > > > Thank you very much for any idea. I wish everybody a nice day. > >Best regards, >Sam Evans. > >___ >Discuss-gnuradio mailing list >Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org >http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio > > ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP, GNURADIO, WINDOWS, APPLICATION HELP
Sam, Coming from a Windows user, I have to say that switching to Ubuntu was 1) extremely easy and 2) greatly accelerated my understand and ability to use GNURadio/USRP - mainly because I could use the GRC, which is a Labview-like graphical interface to GNURadio and USRP. I'd *highly* recommend giving it a shot first, at least to learn with, before trying Windows development. That's my 0.02. YMMV. Also check out the Simulink libraries - I think they're linked from Ettus.com -William On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Sam Evans wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I would like to ask some questions regarding USRP. I really need some > help. I got my USRP with a WBX and LP0410. I work on a computer running > Windows XP. After I read many thing about how to install the GNU Radio in > Windows environment I could install it using MingW. > > I used the gnuinstall.py python script like many others but when I > tried to run my first script in python I got an error message ImportError: > No module named gnuradio. I don't know what is the problem, the gnuradio is > installed, the latest one GNU Radio 3.3.0. > > Could anybody help me with some ideas, how to make it work, and what > I'm missing. > > The second question would be. I would like to use the GNU Radio for a > real application. I want to make a .NET application with Delphi Prism and to > be able to get data from USRP an set data. There are many informations out > there to emulate python (there are even DLL files) to be able to run python > scripts from a .NET application. What I want is to exchange data with some > devices running on 2 ISM bands (433 and 868). I will make an application > with Visual Studio 2010 and I would like to be abel to read data through > python script, interprete data and display in the form as some value or a > therometer showing the value sent by a device. Wireless devices will have > ASK, OOK modulation, some simple stuff. Anybody have made something like > this and could help me to start it, I'll make all the work but I need some > help from those who already made something like this. > > Do you have any other idea how could I implement this, what other > solution do exists? A alternative would be to use LabView but there are > problems, too. No documentation or some help. It would be very good to have > some DLL files that would implement functions and interface to the USB data, > but even if I was searching for a long time, I couldn't find anything. > > I'm opened to any suggestion, because right now I'm stuck, I don't have > any idea. > > Thank you very much for any idea. I wish everybody a nice day. > > Best regards, > Sam Evans. > > > ___ > Discuss-gnuradio mailing list > Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio > > ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
[Discuss-gnuradio] USRP, GNURADIO, WINDOWS, APPLICATION HELP
Hi everybody, I would like to ask some questions regarding USRP. I really need some help. I got my USRP with a WBX and LP0410. I work on a computer running Windows XP. After I read many thing about how to install the GNU Radio in Windows environment I could install it using MingW. I used the gnuinstall.py python script like many others but when I tried to run my first script in python I got an error message ImportError: No module named gnuradio. I don't know what is the problem, the gnuradio is installed, the latest one GNU Radio 3.3.0. Could anybody help me with some ideas, how to make it work, and what I'm missing. The second question would be. I would like to use the GNU Radio for a real application. I want to make a .NET application with Delphi Prism and to be able to get data from USRP an set data. There are many informations out there to emulate python (there are even DLL files) to be able to run python scripts from a .NET application. What I want is to exchange data with some devices running on 2 ISM bands (433 and 868). I will make an application with Visual Studio 2010 and I would like to be abel to read data through python script, interprete data and display in the form as some value or a therometer showing the value sent by a device. Wireless devices will have ASK, OOK modulation, some simple stuff. Anybody have made something like this and could help me to start it, I'll make all the work but I need some help from those who already made something like this. Do you have any other idea how could I implement this, what other solution do exists? A alternative would be to use LabView but there are problems, too. No documentation or some help. It would be very good to have some DLL files that would implement functions and interface to the USB data, but even if I was searching for a long time, I couldn't find anything. I'm opened to any suggestion, because right now I'm stuck, I don't have any idea. Thank you very much for any idea. I wish everybody a nice day. Best regards, Sam Evans. ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
