Re: Subject Line Prefix Missing
To drive this more Off-Topic than it already is... > Mailing list software for decades inserts unique headers for filtering > purpose. "List-Id" is AFAICT the most common one, which is also used > by GNU mailman. It has been specified in 2001 in RFC2919 Even non-Mailinglist software, e.g. GitHub, EBay, Deutsche Bahn, are supplying custom List-Id headers for separate topics. In case of GitHub one can use List-Id headers to automatically separate mails for different repositories without looking at the content or Subject. Cheers Andrej
Re: Subject Line Prefix Missing
This is getting OT, but... On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 02:21:12PM +, Johannes Demel wrote: > My solution > 1. If "Mail From 'discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org'" > 2. If "Mail To 'discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org'" Mailing list software for decades inserts unique headers for filtering purpose. "List-Id" is AFAICT the most common one, which is also used by GNU mailman. It has been specified in 2001 in RFC2919 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2919.html Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Re: Subject Line Prefix Missing
Hi, FWIW, I filter mailing lists based on the List-Id field, which still works fine. Just found out that this seems to be a thing :-) https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt Best, Bastian On 10/30/19 3:21 PM, Johannes Demel wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering about that mailing list behavior as well. > > My solution > 1. If "Mail From 'discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org'" > 2. If "Mail To 'discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org'" > In my case: move to folder. > 1. covers original mails > 2. covers replies. > > I had to split this into 2 separate rules but that's due to my email > service provider. > This solution is more verbose about who receives such an email. e.g. > off-list replies should not end up to be caught by these rules. > > Anyways, I just wanted to share my 2 cents on that. Maybe someone finds > this info useful. > > Cheers > Johannes > > > > On 30.10.19 15:11, Müller, Marcus (CEL) wrote: >> Hi Ed, >> >> "deliberate" would be wrong. Surprising, not really, if we'd have read >> the info mails from the gnu.org mailing list admin more carefully: >> >> In the process of respecting DMARC in the ML infrastructure, they >> disabled rewriting of the subject line for outgoing mail servers that >> signal strict DMARC compliance. The mailing list seems to think your >> server does (I don't know why, to be honest, can't seem to find those >> DNS entries). >> >> So, for now, my understanding is that there's nothing *we* can do about >> it. (We should be able to change the settings of the ML; but in which >> range, and what we'd break on the way, isn't quite clear to us at this >> point.) >> >> For some reason, my university mail server seems to sort these mails >> correctly, and so do GMail instances. Probably a list header? >> >> Best regards, >> Marcus >> >> On Wed, 2019-10-30 at 09:17 -0400, Ed Criscuolo wrote: >>> I've noticed that recent postings to the list are missing >>> the "[Discuss-gnuradio] prefix that was automatically >>> added to the subject line. >>> >>> Was this a deliberate change? I hope not, as I find that >>> feature very useful in picking out the list messages >>> from amid all the spam. >>> >>> >>> @(^.^)@ Ed >>> -- Dr. Bastian Bloessl Secure Mobile Networking Lab (SEEMOO) TU Darmstadt, Germany www.bastibl.net GitHub/Twitter: @bastibl
Re: Subject Line Prefix Missing
Hi all, I was wondering about that mailing list behavior as well. My solution 1. If "Mail From 'discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org'" 2. If "Mail To 'discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org'" In my case: move to folder. 1. covers original mails 2. covers replies. I had to split this into 2 separate rules but that's due to my email service provider. This solution is more verbose about who receives such an email. e.g. off-list replies should not end up to be caught by these rules. Anyways, I just wanted to share my 2 cents on that. Maybe someone finds this info useful. Cheers Johannes On 30.10.19 15:11, Müller, Marcus (CEL) wrote: > Hi Ed, > > "deliberate" would be wrong. Surprising, not really, if we'd have read > the info mails from the gnu.org mailing list admin more carefully: > > In the process of respecting DMARC in the ML infrastructure, they > disabled rewriting of the subject line for outgoing mail servers that > signal strict DMARC compliance. The mailing list seems to think your > server does (I don't know why, to be honest, can't seem to find those > DNS entries). > > So, for now, my understanding is that there's nothing *we* can do about > it. (We should be able to change the settings of the ML; but in which > range, and what we'd break on the way, isn't quite clear to us at this > point.) > > For some reason, my university mail server seems to sort these mails > correctly, and so do GMail instances. Probably a list header? > > Best regards, > Marcus > > On Wed, 2019-10-30 at 09:17 -0400, Ed Criscuolo wrote: >> I've noticed that recent postings to the list are missing >> the "[Discuss-gnuradio] prefix that was automatically >> added to the subject line. >> >> Was this a deliberate change? I hope not, as I find that >> feature very useful in picking out the list messages >> from amid all the spam. >> >> >> @(^.^)@ Ed >>
Re: Subject Line Prefix Missing
Hi Ed, "deliberate" would be wrong. Surprising, not really, if we'd have read the info mails from the gnu.org mailing list admin more carefully: In the process of respecting DMARC in the ML infrastructure, they disabled rewriting of the subject line for outgoing mail servers that signal strict DMARC compliance. The mailing list seems to think your server does (I don't know why, to be honest, can't seem to find those DNS entries). So, for now, my understanding is that there's nothing *we* can do about it. (We should be able to change the settings of the ML; but in which range, and what we'd break on the way, isn't quite clear to us at this point.) For some reason, my university mail server seems to sort these mails correctly, and so do GMail instances. Probably a list header? Best regards, Marcus On Wed, 2019-10-30 at 09:17 -0400, Ed Criscuolo wrote: > I've noticed that recent postings to the list are missing > the "[Discuss-gnuradio] prefix that was automatically > added to the subject line. > > Was this a deliberate change? I hope not, as I find that > feature very useful in picking out the list messages > from amid all the spam. > > > @(^.^)@ Ed > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
