Re: discuss-gnuradio Subject prefix (Was: Contribute to GNU radio)
I frankly don't fully follow – instead of writing a filter that sorts away your emails in folders, you could also write a filter that prefixes them with [tags]? I don't know yahoo's mail interface very well, but I'd be surprised if that functionality didn't exist. Also, it's completely up to your mail client to show all unread emails in an inbox; my K9 for android does that beautifully. On Tue, 2019-11-19 at 08:15 +, Bogdan Diaconescu wrote: > I understand the technical motivation behind this. Frankly if the e-mails are > filtered into a folder they will stay there unread forever. I like to pick > e-mails based on their subject and list for reading. If this change remains > without [gnuradio-] preamble I need to find a way to easily identify the > list. This seems a let's bring in technology to make life even more complex. > > Bogdan > > > > On Monday, November 18, 2019, 1:27:47 PM GMT+2, Adrian Musceac > wrote: > > > You're probably right, but I have to use the canine mailer with a flat view > on my phone due to screen limitations, and I suppose some other people do as > well. > For normal desktop view it's not such a big deal. > > Adrian > > On November 18, 2019 10:59:00 AM UTC, "N. Benes" wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > FYI, here is the general announcement of and motivation for the changes: > > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-hackers-public/2019-06/msg00018.html > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-hackers-public/2019-09/msg00016.html > > > > Adrian Musceac: > > > I have to agree with Bogdan, it is standards complying but really > > > annoying. > > > I receive email from 10 - 15 lists and this one is the only one not > > > altering the subject. > > > > The recommended way is to use List-Id, To, and Cc. > > > > In Thunderbird, for instance, this is very easy to get via > > > > Tools --> Message Filters > > > > Then match "List-Id contains discuss-gnuradio.gnu.org" and move emails > > to a separate directory. > > > > Your 10-15 other mailing lists will likely already provide a proper > > List-Id for many years. Consider that they have the same problem with > > DKIP and, maybe, switch to (the standard complying) use of List-Id in > > the future, too. > > > > Cheers, > > nicolas > > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: discuss-gnuradio Subject prefix (Was: Contribute to GNU radio)
You're probably right, but I have to use the canine mailer with a flat view on my phone due to screen limitations, and I suppose some other people do as well. For normal desktop view it's not such a big deal. Adrian On November 18, 2019 10:59:00 AM UTC, "N. Benes" wrote: >Hi everyone, > >FYI, here is the general announcement of and motivation for the >changes: > >> >https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-hackers-public/2019-06/msg00018.html >> >https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-hackers-public/2019-09/msg00016.html > > >Adrian Musceac: >> I have to agree with Bogdan, it is standards complying but really >annoying. >> I receive email from 10 - 15 lists and this one is the only one not >altering the subject. > >The recommended way is to use List-Id, To, and Cc. > >In Thunderbird, for instance, this is very easy to get via > > Tools --> Message Filters > >Then match "List-Id contains discuss-gnuradio.gnu.org" and move emails >to a separate directory. > >Your 10-15 other mailing lists will likely already provide a proper >List-Id for many years. Consider that they have the same problem with >DKIP and, maybe, switch to (the standard complying) use of List-Id in >the future, too. > >Cheers, >nicolas
Re: discuss-gnuradio Subject prefix (Was: Contribute to GNU radio)
Hi everyone, FYI, here is the general announcement of and motivation for the changes: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-hackers-public/2019-06/msg00018.html > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-hackers-public/2019-09/msg00016.html Adrian Musceac: > I have to agree with Bogdan, it is standards complying but really annoying. > I receive email from 10 - 15 lists and this one is the only one not altering > the subject. The recommended way is to use List-Id, To, and Cc. In Thunderbird, for instance, this is very easy to get via Tools --> Message Filters Then match "List-Id contains discuss-gnuradio.gnu.org" and move emails to a separate directory. Your 10-15 other mailing lists will likely already provide a proper List-Id for many years. Consider that they have the same problem with DKIP and, maybe, switch to (the standard complying) use of List-Id in the future, too. Cheers, nicolas
Re: discuss-gnuradio Subject prefix (Was: Contribute to GNU radio)
Hi Derek, I have to agree with Bogdan, it is standards complying but really annoying. I receive email from 10 - 15 lists and this one is the only one not altering the subject. My 2 cents, Adrian On November 18, 2019 10:05:50 AM UTC, Derek Kozel wrote: >Hi Bogdan, > >Our understanding is that the change is actually a fix and reversing it >would cause problems for an increasingly large percentage of email >users. The problem is that if a sender's email client/server signs the >message (increasingly common with DKIP) and then the list server edits >the subject line to add the "[discuss-gnuradio] " prefix then the >signature is invalid and some popular mail servers will penalize the >message when it evaluates it as being spam. Some servers simply reject >the message silently. > >All discuss-gnuradio emails do correctly have the list-id header in the >metadata so it is easy to filter them into a folder or add a label. > >Since there is a standards compliant way of identifying the >discuss-gnuradio messages it's unlikely that we'll change the server >setting back to adding the prefix. If the behavior of email >clients/servers change or a best-practices guidance comes out with a >way >of retaining the prefix we'll move to the most compliant behavior. > >Regards, >Derek > >On 18/11/2019 09:37, Bogdan Diaconescu wrote: >> Hi Markus, I know it might take some effort to fix the issue and if >it helps I will just say that missing the preamble is really annoying >as many of us are subscribed to other email groups with missing >preamble. That creates a really confusing situations. >> >> Bogdan >> >>> On 17 Nov 2019, at 20:54, Müller, Marcus (CEL) >wrote: >>> >>
