[ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Is your web server also a domain controller? John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is your web server also a domain controller? John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Are there any scheduled pages that may have been delayed? Have you checked the CF logs in the Administrator for useful clues? Disk full? Extremely fragmented? Is the db running ok? Any error there? > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Off Topic: MS Excel Sort Corrupts Mass Data.
Cody YOU GOT IT I explained this to the PM we met with last week and he knew exactly what I was talking about and said you cant do that or it will corrupt data! Now you tell me? I explained it to a friend and he said AUTO FILTER. I remember you said that also but have not had the chance to get back into it since then. Just tried that, and the friend has been an EXCEL user for about 15 years now straight and feels very comfortable with AUTO FILTER doing the job. I like it, it seems to work (better than sort!) fine. Thanks all, Just thought you would like to know what I learned. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Cody Wehunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 8:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Off Topic: MS Excel Sort Corrupts Mass Data. I think you should look into filter’s into excel if I understand your problem correctly. Cody From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 2:32 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Off Topic: MS Excel Sort Corrupts Mass Data. Well we do that when appropriate but sometimes we have so much organization to do that we sort this column this way and make appropriate mods by populating a cell and copying by dragging the little plus sign down till the appropriate items are populated. Then we resort in another way and do the same. Some times we need to have a numerical autonumber, then resort again. Etc. The problem is that when data arrives as new products we have it as a csv, and have to populate approximately 35 more columns before we can push it to the table in the DB. If we have a thousand products to do this to it take a while and the most efficient way is to keep sorting it as appropriate. I understand if my SQL coding skills were better (I have none and just read a quick tutorial on it) I may be able to do things better. But for now Excel seems like the only solution and it does not work as data keeps getting corrupted. ARGH!!! Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:30 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Off Topic: MS Excel Sort Corrupts Mass Data. If your are exporting, why not sort it prior to the export? Let the database do the sorting for you. I would store the data for the export into a transition table that is truncated prior to every export. You insert the data into in the sort order that you need and then export the data into excel from there. Have the database keep integrity and not depend on the spreadsheet. The data may not be stored as unicode and leading data on certain columns may be omitted, especially numbers with leading 0s. Teddy On 6/15/06, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any one there have skills or work with someone who has heavy Excel skills that can answer this? I have searched google for 2 hours for a solution. Can find none. I have to do a csv export of our database table which equates to 9000 rows by abou 40 columns. Some of these columns host full html data. The problem is that while managing this data while integrating a large amount of rows into the csv we sometimes have to sort by column. We have done this both by using the A/Z sort button short cut, and by clicking the upper left box where all cells get highlighted, clicking Data, then Sort, and choosing appropriate columns to sort by. Sometimes we hide columns in order to manage 40 columns of data. However from time to time in a manner we can not yet duplicate or determine (though we have a suspision that it is hidden data) we find that data that was was not sorted even though we choose to have all fields sorted becomes disassociated with it's respective row and the data ends up being corrupted. Though this is not to say that we are sure that hidding data is even relevent. Has anyone seen this behavior? Is there a fix, or switch, or different tool we should be using to do mass sorting, and resorting without fear of loosing data integrity? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -- - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
No but it is running Terminal Services. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:29 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Is your web server also a domain controller? John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Ok, first things first... -NEVER use a domain controller as a web server. Specially if it's a production box. Microsoft is very clear about this in their documentation. There are several performance and security issues in running a live site on an AD controller. Even in a development situation this is simply a bad idea. -AD does a lot of work in booting up and shutting down. Hence the delays with that. -If the server is on several networks. Make certain the first network it loads in and sees is the network with the other AD controllers. Go to Network and Dialup Connections -> Advance -> Advanced Settings -> Bindings Make certain the proper network connection is listed first. The server loads this stuff in order from top to down. -Make certain you are time synch. Your AD controllers with NTP. Otherwise, they will get confused in boot up as to the status of the network. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com ---
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Scheduled pages? Can you elaborate? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:12 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are there any scheduled pages that may have been delayed? Have you checked the CF logs in the Administrator for useful clues? Disk full? Extremely fragmented? Is the db running ok? Any error there? > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
2gb available: I think it's fragmented for sure! Total frag 28% File frag 54% Free space frag 3% Bet it works better no matter what. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:12 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are there any scheduled pages that may have been delayed? Have you checked the CF logs in the Administrator for useful clues? Disk full? Extremely fragmented? Is the db running ok? Any error there? > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
So can someone tell me why they make/made Microsoft SBS (Small Business Server, or as I like to call it... SPFS [Single Point of Failure Server]?) Well in response I don't have any of those issues, BUT! I do have a 2k domain with a missing Global catalog which is a mess and we are rolling out a new domain as we speak, but the point is.. This server never was this problematic earlier. At this moment I am moving 12% of data to a new drive to meet the required 15% space for a defrag. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:36 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Ok, first things first... -NEVER use a domain controller as a web server. Specially if it's a production box. Microsoft is very clear about this in their documentation. There are several performance and security issues in running a live site on an AD controller. Even in a development situation this is simply a bad idea. -AD does a lot of work in booting up and shutting down. Hence the delays with that. -If the server is on several networks. Make certain the first network it loads in and sees is the network with the other AD controllers. Go to Network and Dialup Connections -> Advance -> Advanced Settings -> Bindings Make certain the proper network connection is listed first. The server loads this stuff in order from top to down. -Make certain you are time synch. Your AD controllers with NTP. Otherwise, they will get confused in boot up as to the status of the network. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com >
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
> It does not load any network critical services. Ok? Why is this server a domain controller then? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.o
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Missing the global catalog can be very bad. Have one of the other DC's become the global catalog. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:05 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot So can someone tell me why they make/made Microsoft SBS (Small Business Server, or as I like to call it... SPFS [Single Point of Failure Server]?) Well in response I don't have any of those issues, BUT! I do have a 2k domain with a missing Global catalog which is a mess and we are rolling out a new domain as we speak, but the point is.. This server never was this problematic earlier. At this moment I am moving 12% of data to a new drive to meet the required 15% space for a defrag. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:36 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Ok, first things first... -NEVER use a domain controller as a web server. Specially if it's a production box. Microsoft is very clear about this in their documentation. There are several performance and security issues in running a live site on an AD controller. Even in a development situation this is simply a bad idea. -AD does a lot of work in booting up and shutting down. Hence the delays with that. -If the server is on several networks. Make certain the first network it loads in and sees is the network with the other AD controllers. Go to Network and Dialup Connections -> Advance -> Advanced Settings -> Bindings Make certain the proper network connection is listed first. The server loads this stuff in order from top to down. -Make certain you are time synch. Your AD controllers with NTP. Otherwise, they will get confused in boot up as to the status of the network. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > ---
re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
2GB avail is not a lot. I'd recommend cleaning up drastically. Remove temp files, remove backups of stuff you no longer need etc. Especially databases need temp space for their logfiles and with such limited space available, they will make the OS + disks seek for those last available bytes, which is time consuming. If your site has been running for a while, you might find that the IIS logfiles consume lots of disk space, or even the CF logs. It's usually pretty easy to either compress historical log files or move them to another server. If you can't clean up, add diskspace asap. /m > 2gb available: I think it's fragmented for sure! Total frag 28% File frag 54% Free space frag 3% Bet it works better no matter what. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:12 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are there any scheduled pages that may have been delayed? Have you checked the CF logs in the Administrator for useful clues? Disk full? Extremely fragmented? Is the db running ok? Any error there? > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Sorry, in the CF Administrator look for "Debugging and Logging" and then Scheduled Tasks. These are very much like jobs that you can schedule to run at certain times. If for some reason a heavy job didn't execute earlier, the server might attempt to execute it right after it boots up, hogging resources. /m BTW, I'm looking at a CF7 box, not sure if they changed terminology since then, but the concept is the same. > Scheduled pages? Can you elaborate? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:12 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are there any scheduled pages that may have been delayed? Have you checked the CF logs in the Administrator for useful clues? Disk full? Extremely fragmented? Is the db running ok? Any error there? > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
The defrag is important, but is not the main reason for the problems he's facing. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:23 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot 2GB avail is not a lot. I'd recommend cleaning up drastically. Remove temp files, remove backups of stuff you no longer need etc. Especially databases need temp space for their logfiles and with such limited space available, they will make the OS + disks seek for those last available bytes, which is time consuming. If your site has been running for a while, you might find that the IIS logfiles consume lots of disk space, or even the CF logs. It's usually pretty easy to either compress historical log files or move them to another server. If you can't clean up, add diskspace asap. /m > 2gb available: I think it's fragmented for sure! Total frag 28% File frag 54% Free space frag 3% Bet it works better no matter what. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:12 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are there any scheduled pages that may have been delayed? Have you checked the CF logs in the Administrator for useful clues? Disk full? Extremely fragmented? Is the db running ok? Any error there? > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=gin.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
No virus. All legit processes. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsub
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
There is NO GC to copy! When I was first studying 2K to upgrade my MCSE from a 4.0 I needed a heavy server to load 2K in order to migrate. So I borrowed a friends box, swapped HDD, loaded, upgraded the Network, and gave the borrowed server and his borrowed spare HDD back to him. By the time (3 months later) that we got to understanding the GC that drive had since been formatted and the GC gone forever! At one time a few years ago we tried to use some tools to rebuild it and even had a support call in to MS, but it never did work. It works better than it did, and it limps along, but in general this domain is TOAST! I do have a Quazi GC built but it's not 100%, it still leaves events all day long. I have since built another few servers and a new domain which is now trusted to the other corrupt one. At this time we just raised the drop ceiling, put in a full height rack, and installed those servers on rails. Now we have to drop in power, get an extra switch, and an extra KVM. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:16 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Missing the global catalog can be very bad. Have one of the other DC's become the global catalog. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:05 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot So can someone tell me why they make/made Microsoft SBS (Small Business Server, or as I like to call it... SPFS [Single Point of Failure Server]?) Well in response I don't have any of those issues, BUT! I do have a 2k domain with a missing Global catalog which is a mess and we are rolling out a new domain as we speak, but the point is.. This server never was this problematic earlier. At this moment I am moving 12% of data to a new drive to meet the required 15% space for a defrag. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:36 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Ok, first things first... -NEVER use a domain controller as a web server. Specially if it's a production box. Microsoft is very clear about this in their documentation. There are several performance and security issues in running a live site on an AD controller. Even in a development situation this is simply a bad idea. -AD does a lot of work in booting up and shutting down. Hence the delays with that. -If the server is on several networks. Make certain the first network it loads in and sees is the network with the other AD controllers. Go to Network and Dialup Connections -> Advance -> Advanced Settings -> Bindings Make certain the proper network connection is listed first. The server loads this stuff in order from top to down. -Make certain you are time synch. Your AD controllers with NTP. Otherwise, they will get confused in boot up as to the status of the network. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Sorry been doing several things at once. The missing global catalog would be the next thing to resolve to speed up your reboots. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:22 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It is not and never was said it was a DC. Don't know where that came from... Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:13 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > It does not load any network critical services. Ok? Why is this server a domain controller then? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailin
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Site down again. Site shows: "Server Error The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. JRun closed connection." Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:16 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Missing the global catalog can be very bad. Have one of the other DC's become the global catalog. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:05 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot So can someone tell me why they make/made Microsoft SBS (Small Business Server, or as I like to call it... SPFS [Single Point of Failure Server]?) Well in response I don't have any of those issues, BUT! I do have a 2k domain with a missing Global catalog which is a mess and we are rolling out a new domain as we speak, but the point is.. This server never was this problematic earlier. At this moment I am moving 12% of data to a new drive to meet the required 15% space for a defrag. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:36 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Ok, first things first... -NEVER use a domain controller as a web server. Specially if it's a production box. Microsoft is very clear about this in their documentation. There are several performance and security issues in running a live site on an AD controller. Even in a development situation this is simply a bad idea. -AD does a lot of work in booting up and shutting down. Hence the delays with that. -If the server is on several networks. Make certain the first network it loads in and sees is the network with the other AD controllers. Go to Network and Dialup Connections -> Advance -> Advanced Settings -> Bindings Make certain the proper network connection is listed first. The server loads this stuff in order from top to down. -Make certain you are time synch. Your AD controllers with NTP. Otherwise, they will get confused in boot up as to the status of the network. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden W
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Also check your dns services that the AD uses. Are they working? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Sorry been doing several things at once. The missing global catalog would be the next thing to resolve to speed up your reboots. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:22 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It is not and never was said it was a DC. Don't know where that came from... Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:13 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > It does not load any network critical services. Ok? Why is this server a domain controller then? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, G
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
It is not and never was said it was a DC. Don't know where that came from... Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:13 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > It does not load any network critical services. Ok? Why is this server a domain controller then? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For mor
RE: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Doing the 2nd defrag now. But I guess Im going to have to see why its jrunning again... :( Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:28 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot The defrag is important, but is not the main reason for the problems he's facing. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:23 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot 2GB avail is not a lot. I'd recommend cleaning up drastically. Remove temp files, remove backups of stuff you no longer need etc. Especially databases need temp space for their logfiles and with such limited space available, they will make the OS + disks seek for those last available bytes, which is time consuming. If your site has been running for a while, you might find that the IIS logfiles consume lots of disk space, or even the CF logs. It's usually pretty easy to either compress historical log files or move them to another server. If you can't clean up, add diskspace asap. /m > 2gb available: I think it's fragmented for sure! Total frag 28% File frag 54% Free space frag 3% Bet it works better no matter what. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:12 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are there any scheduled pages that may have been delayed? Have you checked the CF logs in the Administrator for useful clues? Disk full? Extremely fragmented? Is the db running ok? Any error there? > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and MySQL with CF6 Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to get the CF site working. I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it to host the site. Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would return a JRUN timeout error. Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a Browser F5 Refresh. You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - < - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=gin.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com
[ACFUG Discuss] Yes, there is an ACFUG meeting next week, Wed July 5
Folks, despite the holiday, and with apologies for the delay in announcing it due to the hubbub of CFUnited, we will be meeting this coming Wednesday July 5th. Please see the announcement on the web site and the ACFUG announcements list for topics and details. /charlie - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
JRUN hogging again. Cant get to any CF run pages. JRUN.exe is using almost 180,000k ram. Is this normal? Averaging 50~75% processor resources. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:48 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot No virus. All legit processes. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > --
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Load in seefusion and see what's happening. www.seefusion.com Remember to wrap your database calls with seefusion so it can see the db calls. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:58 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot JRUN hogging again. Cant get to any CF run pages. JRUN.exe is using almost 180,000k ram. Is this normal? Averaging 50~75% processor resources. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:48 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot No virus. All legit processes. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a > Browser F5 Refresh. > > You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing? > > Robert P. Reil > Managing Director, > Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. > 4292 Country Garden Walk NW > Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 > Office 770-974-8851 > Fax 770-974-8852 > www.motorcyclecarbs.com > > >
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
I have noticed DNS REALLY Slow lately. That was going to be the next thing that I looked at. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:30 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Also check your dns services that the AD uses. Are they working? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Sorry been doing several things at once. The missing global catalog would be the next thing to resolve to speed up your reboots. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:22 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It is not and never was said it was a DC. Don't know where that came from... Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:13 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > It does not load any network critical services. Ok? Why is this server a domain controller then? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100%
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Installed. Now what? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:19 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Load in seefusion and see what's happening. www.seefusion.com Remember to wrap your database calls with seefusion so it can see the db calls. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:58 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot JRUN hogging again. Cant get to any CF run pages. JRUN.exe is using almost 180,000k ram. Is this normal? Averaging 50~75% processor resources. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:48 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot No virus. All legit processes. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and > MySQL with CF6 > > Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to > get the CF site working. > > I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it > to host the site. > > Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would > return a JRUN timeout error. > > Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started properly. > The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on JRUN.exe > that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was > looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity > should I say)
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Stack Trace: --- http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/stack.htm http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/rcga01ts01%20Jun%2030,%202006%2010% 2017%2020%20PM%20%20SeeFusion.htm After a while the processor calmed down and this is a shot of the status: http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/rcga01ts01%20Jun%2030,%202006%2010% 2019%2059%20PM%20%20SeeFusion.htm --- Nice tool. Wish I could read it but I hope this is enough to read into it as I feel it is up and running stable at the moment today. Again folks the JRUN is hanging more than just a slow reboot of CF Services. John: How do you wrap your database calls? I don't get that. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:19 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Load in seefusion and see what's happening. www.seefusion.com Remember to wrap your database calls with seefusion so it can see the db calls. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:58 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot JRUN hogging again. Cant get to any CF run pages. JRUN.exe is using almost 180,000k ram. Is this normal? Averaging 50~75% processor resources. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:48 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot No virus. All legit processes. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with 'request timeout' mentioned. DK On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is your web server also a domain controller? > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot > > I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live serv
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
When things are running slow on cfmx take a look at the seefusion page to see what is happening. With the reboot problem, any computer on the domain will first call up the dns servers to try find the controllers. Once found, they call up the global catalog...you get the picture. The timeout on all this is about 10-15 min, hence your 15-20 min delay reboot. Once all this happens, it'll communicate with the closest AD controller to determine the computer settings for that machine. Then it gives you the login prompt. Once you login, it goes back out, first to the global catalogue and then directly to AD directory to determine the user's settings. Once again..10-15 min timeout. You see where this is going... Giving a controller the ability to be a catalogue shouldn't be that bad (literally a setting change and a reboot), but it sounds like the old domain is really messed up. If the newer one is working for you, I would run not walk to get your web servers over there. Defrag you drives naturally helps and will increase the life span of your drives, but the login delays aren't really related to that and should go away with the newer domain. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:36 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Installed. Now what? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:19 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Load in seefusion and see what's happening. www.seefusion.com Remember to wrap your database calls with seefusion so it can see the db calls. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:58 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot JRUN hogging again. Cant get to any CF run pages. JRUN.exe is using almost 180,000k ram. Is this normal? Averaging 50~75% processor resources. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:48 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot No virus. All legit processes. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
Robert, on your question about how to wrap db calls in SeeFusion, and your last note, "Installed. Now what?", you do need read to the brief docs that come with the product to really benefit from it. It should help a lot. /charlie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 10:25 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Stack Trace: --- http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/stack.htm http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/rcga01ts01%20Jun%2030,%202006%2010% 2017%2020%20PM%20%20SeeFusion.htm After a while the processor calmed down and this is a shot of the status: http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/rcga01ts01%20Jun%2030,%202006%2010% 2019%2059%20PM%20%20SeeFusion.htm --- Nice tool. Wish I could read it but I hope this is enough to read into it as I feel it is up and running stable at the moment today. Again folks the JRUN is hanging more than just a slow reboot of CF Services. John: How do you wrap your database calls? I don't get that. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:19 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Load in seefusion and see what's happening. www.seefusion.com Remember to wrap your database calls with seefusion so it can see the db calls. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:58 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot JRUN hogging again. Cant get to any CF run pages. JRUN.exe is using almost 180,000k ram. Is this normal? Averaging 50~75% processor resources. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:48 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot No virus. All legit processes. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive. Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load instead of erroring out on JRUN. No browser warnings in event viewer. Not multi homed. It does not load any network critical services. It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and MSSQL. I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will google them for potential viruses. DLLHOST.exe CTFMON.exe CSRSS.exe LLSSRV.exe LSASS.exe Pvlsvr.exe Swagent.exe Swsoc.exe Swstrtr.exe All other processes make sense to me. I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was 99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98% idle. Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window of the task manager where previously it only showed one... Will look at the logs after the AV file check. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot. Robert, is it taking long to boot up or taking long to shutdown? Note a reboot requires both of these actions. I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown with your description of the CPU load. Could be many things. Load, third-part connections such as databases, or just bad code can cause these things. Check out the logs in the CFAdmin tool. Look in the server one and look for entries with
