RE: [ACFUG Discuss] RE: Still reading?? Web Application Construst ruction Kit (WACK) S tudy Group

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Reil 
We will be meeting at 6:30-about 9 it usually runs. We are thinking about
starting to code a simple app for my intra net to solidify the skills we
have learned so far from chapters 1-15. Just some simple data lookups. Later
we can add Updates, deletes etc.
 
If you come by with laptop we can set up a remote session afterwards.
 
You can call me at the below numbers 10-6M-F or 770-974-1665 at home as I am
always there.
If for some reason I am at an errand then cell is 404-406-3452
 
Let me know. Would love to meet ya, and build skills together.
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com   

 

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From: Ajas Mohammed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:03 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] RE: Still reading?? Web Application
Construstruction Kit (WACK) S tudy Group


Hi,
Whats the plan for this Thursday and how long will be the session? What
are you going to cover & are you going to try out examples from the book?
Let me know so I can plan as per that. I would love to come over there but
its a long drive so Iam not going to promise. But I can call you guys and we
can have a remote session. Let me know which number I can call. My cell
number is 713-240-1957. 

Thanks

Ajas Mohammed.



On 1/26/07, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote: 

we did the code samples and the reading interactively.
The test is actually my beta sight that is for my company. I have a LOT of
upgrades and development that my company needs in Able Commerce that they
wont do. 
 
I have spent the last what 6, 8 months reading, learning, interacting, and
being community involved just so I can be at this point. I have learned what
I have learned just to be able to put my fingers in the code and start
stirring the pot.
 
Come on over! We meet in Kennesaw on Thursday nights at 6:30pm.
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com  , Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com    

 

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From: Ajas Mohammed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ]

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:52 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: Re: Still reading???RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: [ACFUG Announce] Web
Application Construc tion Kit (WACK) Study Group starts next week


Hi Robert,
  Coming back to WACK topic, are you guys planning to use
AbleCommerce for a test application or is it for a client? If its just a
test application and if you dont mind please inlcude me in the list. Also
have you guys just gone through the text or you have tried code samples from
the book? 

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.



On 12/27/06, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
wrote: 

Hi there,
   I lost my focus on this topic. Are you guys still going thru
the weekly(tuesday) study of WACK book? If yes let me know when is the next
meeting and also what chapters you guys have already covered. 

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.



It will depend on the census of the group. Chapter by chapter yes. What is
the web? Most likely no.

The first 3-4 chapters are software configurations. Daniel and I (thanks to
Teddy) have our laptops properly configured now and if noone needs to go
through it we will pass till there is info to cover.

 

Mohammed:

  

Maybe we could have a conference call going on speaker phone and you could
remote in per se'

 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com  , Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw , Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com   


  _  


From: Precia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
] 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:07 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org  
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: [ACFUG Announce] Web Application
Construction Kit (WACK) Study Group starts next week

 

Please feel free to ask questions, too.  We ACFUGers live for answering
questions.   :)

 

Precia

 

On 10/12/06, Ajas, Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote: 

Hello everyone, 
Before I start let me introduce myself. My name is
Ajas Mohammed, currently working as Web Developer (ColdFusion, SQL Server)
in Chattanooga , TN. 

Robert, I was wondering if you would be going through the WACK book chapter
by chapter. If yes then which chapter you would be covering in this session.
I cannot come over there but I could go over the book myself and maybe we
could share in the group what was covered. Just a suggestion. 

Thanks.

Ajas Mohammed.



- Original Message 
From: Robert Reil <

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] RE: Still reading?? Web Application Construstruction Kit (WACK) S tudy Group

2007-01-31 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

Hi,
   Whats the plan for this Thursday and how long will be the session? What
are you going to cover & are you going to try out examples from the book?
Let me know so I can plan as per that. I would love to come over there but
its a long drive so Iam not going to promise. But I can call you guys and we
can have a remote session. Let me know which number I can call. My cell
number is 713-240-1957.

Thanks

Ajas Mohammed.


On 1/26/07, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 we did the code samples and the reading interactively.
The test is actually my beta sight that is for my company. I have a LOT of
upgrades and development that my company needs in Able Commerce that they
wont do.

I have spent the last what 6, 8 months reading, learning, interacting, and
being community involved just so I can be at this point. I have learned what
I have learned just to be able to put my fingers in the code and start
stirring the pot.

Come on over! We meet in Kennesaw on Thursday nights at 6:30pm.


Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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*From:* Ajas Mohammed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, January 26, 2007 3:52 PM
*To:* Carbs Sales&Service
*Subject:* Re: Still reading???RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: [ACFUG Announce]
Web Application Construc tion Kit (WACK) Study Group starts next week

Hi Robert,
  Coming back to WACK topic, are you guys planning to use
AbleCommerce for a test application or is it for a client? If its just a
test application and if you dont mind please inlcude me in the list. Also
have you guys just gone through the text or you have tried code samples from
the book?

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.


On 12/27/06, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>I lost my focus on this topic. Are you guys still going
> thru the weekly(tuesday) study of WACK book? If yes let me know when is the
> next meeting and also what chapters you guys have already covered.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ajas Mohammed.
>
>  It will depend on the census of the group. Chapter by chapter yes. What
> > is the web? Most likely no.
> >
> > The first 3-4 chapters are software configurations. Daniel and I
> > (thanks to Teddy) have our laptops properly configured now and if noone
> > needs to go through it we will pass till there is info to cover.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mohammed:
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe we could have a conference call going on speaker phone and you
> > could remote in per se'
> >
>
>
> Robert P. Reil
>
> Managing Director,
>
> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
>
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
>
> Kennesaw , Ga. 30152
>
> Office 770-974-8851
>
> Fax 770-974-8852
>
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
>  --
>
> *From:* Precia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:07 PM
> *To:* discussion@acfug.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: [ACFUG Announce] Web Application
> Construction Kit (WACK) Study Group starts next week
>
>
>
> Please feel free to ask questions, too.  We ACFUGers live for answering
> questions.   :)
>
>
>
> Precia
>
>
>
> On 10/12/06, *Ajas, Mohammed* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> Before I start let me introduce myself. My name
> is Ajas Mohammed, currently working as Web Developer (ColdFusion, SQL
> Server) in Chattanooga , TN.
>
> Robert, I was wondering if you would be going through the WACK book
> chapter by chapter. If yes then which chapter you would be covering in this
> session. I cannot come over there but I could go over the book myself and
> maybe we could share in the group what was covered. Just a suggestion.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ajas Mohammed.
>
>  - Original Message 
> From: Robert Reil < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: announcements@acfug.org
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:20:41 PM
> Subject: [ACFUG Announce] Web Application Construction Kit (WACK) Study
> Group starts next week
>
> Just a reminder that the Web Application Construction Kit Study Group
> will be meeting in Kennesaw next Tuesday night at 6:30pm.
>
>
>
> See http://www.acfug.org/index.cfm?fa=meetings.meetingdetail&EventID=176
> for details.
>
>
>
> Robert P. Reil
>
> Managing Director,
>
> Motorcyclecarbs.com , Inc.
>
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
>
> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
>
> Office 770-974-8851
>
> Fax 770-974-8852
>
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: DataBase Design Forum/Lists?

2007-01-31 Thread Precia 

I get SQL server Tips at techRepublic.com
It's not mySQL but it's a good read, anyway.

Precia


On 1/31/07, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Along with Dusty's question for CSS
I also wonder if anyone knows a good place for newbies and pros to confer
about DB design?
I use MySQL but I dont think it has to be MySQL specific.


Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com , Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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*From:* Dusty Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
*To:* Carbs Sales&Service
*Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group
to recommend?



I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.



Thx



DH

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: DataBase Design Forum/Lists?

2007-01-31 Thread Charlie Arehart 
The MDF is indeed a good group with good monthly presentations (down at
Children's Healthcare of Atlanta off 85 just inside the perimeter). 

In fact, I'll be speaking there again, in May I think.

If you're interested in Sharepoint, I'll point out that the Atlanta .NET
user group often discusses it (atlantadotnet.org), and there is also a group
of folks here in atlanta that offer occasional free daylong training in it:
http://www.sharepoint123.com/

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:53 PM
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SWEET! They are having a SharePoint integration discussion too. Im rolling
that out as well. More to learn! 




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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: DataBase Design Forum/Lists?

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Reil 
SWEET! They are having a SharePoint integration discussion too. Im rolling
that out as well. More to learn! 


Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com 

-Original Message-
From: Greg Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:56 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: DataBase Design Forum/Lists?

It isn't MySQL, but I ran into this user group for Microsoft SQL Server:

http://www.atlantamdf.com/

Basic SQL and relational database design should still be the same between
the two systems.

On 1/31/07, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Along with Dusty's question for CSS
> I also wonder if anyone knows a good place for newbies and pros to 
> confer about DB design?
> I use MySQL but I dont think it has to be MySQL specific.
>
>
>
> Robert P. Reil
>
> Managing Director,
>
> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
>
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
>
> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
>
> Office 770-974-8851
>
> Fax 770-974-8852
>
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
>
> 
> From: Dusty Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
> To: Carbs Sales&Service
> Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group 
> to recommend?
>
>
>
>
> I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there 
> could recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a 
> google search but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that
first.
>
>
>
> Thx
>
>
>
> DH
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Steven Ross 

Precia, mark beat you to it... ;)

for those who want the direct link:

http://alistapart.com/topics/code/css/

On 1/31/07, Precia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://alistapart.com/



On 1/31/07, Dusty Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.
>
>
>
> Thx
>
>
>
> DH
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Precia 

http://alistapart.com/

On 1/31/07, Dusty Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.



Thx



DH

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Steven Ross 

There is really no need to do this as you can use various techniques
to build one stylesheet to support multiple browsers. You simply set
the style to what your base browser is and then employ various
techniques (css 2 selectors) to override the base set.

ie:

#someDiv {width: 450px; padding: 0 5px 0 5px;}
html>body #someDiv {width: 460px;}



On 1/31/07, Dan Kaufman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Dusty,



Here's my approach to the cross-browser problem with CSS.  The problem
begins with how Microsoft in particular "interprets" the CSS standards.
What should be a "standards" behavior for such-and-such sometimes get
embellished or enhanced in their interest of marketing.  It's not just
Microsoft, Netscape can create problems for you too, and older versions of
browsers can be a problem. Basically designing with CSS becomes a
"compromise approach".  Okay here's my approach:



start with, develop with the most "standards compliant" browser such as
Firefox.
keep copies of IE and NN open and check yourself as you go, looking for
failures.
It's virtually impossible to have your site render EXACTLY the same in all
browsers and versions thereof. So approach your design with some
flexibility. What works best across the top 3 browsers. But keep your CSS
standards compliant. Don't use browser specific hacks.
Most of the time it is IE that causes me the most grief. And it's very easy
to "fix".  CSS means cascading, and that means as you go down the page (of
your CSS) every succeeding rule has precedence over any matching identifier
before it.

For example: if you had a style rule for say the id="nav"

#nav {margin: 0 0 0 0;

padding: 5px;

etc. }   (this would set all margins to 0, padding to 5 px, etc.



And then somewhere later down the page you had the rule again:

#nav {margin-left: 10px;}



This subsequent rule would override the left margin value only. All other
rules would continue to be applied.

So, here's how to deal with a condition where IE only is messing
up your design.

In your  section, immediately following your





>>>at this point, insert a Browser detection tag, and test for, say,
Internet Explorer. Then…



 (whatever IF statement you need to recognize that
the browser looking at you is IE, or…) 






…and the CSS file _ISEXORER.CSS contains "subsequent" rules to any in your
_Base.css file that are having problems with IE. Most of the time my
_IsExplorer.css file is only a rule or two.



The advantage here is that your "base" css file is always "standards
compliant so that as new browsers come on the market, etc. your site will
continue to run correctly. If you use browser hacks you will have to go back
and figure out where they are as IE figures out how to "follow the rules"
and your hack doesn't work anymore.



Hope this idea/procedure helps.





Dan





 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:51 AM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group
to recommend?




I'm having a heak of time transitioning into CSS layout and getting it work
across browsers. Didn't want to bombard my fellows CFers with OT questions.
I ran a search on CSS user groups but there were so many, I would much
preferr to use a recommended one. For now, I am in CSS hell. I must of done
something bad in my formal life hehe J



Dusty

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:41 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group
to recommend?



Yeah. That would be helpful for me as well! good Question Dusty!




Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com





 


From: Dusty Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
 To: Carbs Sales&Service
 Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to
recommend?

I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.



Thx



DH


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Steven Ross 

I went to a conference a few years ago when i worked for St. Jude
(http://stjude.org) and after it I saw the light of css and moved the
design to pure css (except for embedded content on pages where users
enter their own html through the CMS). The nicest thing was when we
needed to roll out a design. I literally uploaded the style and images
and changed 4 loc and the new design was active.


On 1/31/07, Fennell, Mark P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Indeed. A very fun site.

http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/190/190.css&page=1
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/193/193.css&page=1
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/195/195.css&page=0
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/201/201.css&page=0

The same content all the time w/ different css applied. Wouldn't it be a
wonderful chaos to throw a different style at your users for every page on
your site -- even a different style for the same page everytime? Sweet!
mf






 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:39 PM

To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group
to recommend?



Be sure to add

http://www.csszengarden.com/

One that I believe our pal here Allen Underwood turned me/us on to a couple
years ago.

Now, it's not a place for asking questions, but I sense that the ones
offered below are not either, so I thought it worth adding to that list.

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/




 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fennell, Mark
P.
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:14 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group
to recommend?



References I have bookmarked:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/
http://www.mandarindesign.com/
http://www.alistapart.com/
HTH
mf
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Dan Kaufman 
Dusty,

 

Here's my approach to the cross-browser problem with CSS.  The problem
begins with how Microsoft in particular "interprets" the CSS standards.
What should be a "standards" behavior for such-and-such sometimes get
embellished or enhanced in their interest of marketing.  It's not just
Microsoft, Netscape can create problems for you too, and older versions of
browsers can be a problem. Basically designing with CSS becomes a
"compromise approach".  Okay here's my approach:

 

1.  start with, develop with the most "standards compliant" browser such
as Firefox.
2.  keep copies of IE and NN open and check yourself as you go, looking
for failures.
3.  It's virtually impossible to have your site render EXACTLY the same
in all browsers and versions thereof. So approach your design with some
flexibility. What works best across the top 3 browsers. But keep your CSS
standards compliant. Don't use browser specific hacks.
4.  Most of the time it is IE that causes me the most grief. And it's
very easy to "fix".  CSS means cascading, and that means as you go down the
page (of  your CSS) every succeeding rule has precedence over any matching
identifier before it.

a.  For example: if you had a style rule for say the id="nav"

#nav {margin: 0 0 0 0;

padding: 5px;

etc. }   (this would set all margins to 0, padding to 5 px, etc.

 

And then somewhere later down the page you had the rule again:

#nav {margin-left: 10px;} 

 

This subsequent rule would override the left margin value only. All other
rules would continue to be applied.

So, here's how to deal with a condition where IE only is messing
up your design.

In your  section, immediately following your 

 


 

>>>at this point, insert a Browser detection tag, and test for, say,
Internet Explorer. Then.

 

 (whatever IF statement you need to recognize that
the browser looking at you is IE, or.)





 

.and the CSS file _ISEXORER.CSS contains "subsequent" rules to any in your
_Base.css file that are having problems with IE. Most of the time my
_IsExplorer.css file is only a rule or two.

 

The advantage here is that your "base" css file is always "standards
compliant so that as new browsers come on the market, etc. your site will
continue to run correctly. If you use browser hacks you will have to go back
and figure out where they are as IE figures out how to "follow the rules"
and your hack doesn't work anymore.

 

Hope this idea/procedure helps.

 

 

Dan

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:51 AM
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to recommend?

 

I'm having a heak of time transitioning into CSS layout and getting it work
across browsers. Didn't want to bombard my fellows CFers with OT questions.
I ran a search on CSS user groups but there were so many, I would much
preferr to use a recommended one. For now, I am in CSS hell. I must of done
something bad in my formal life hehe :-)

 

Dusty

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:41 PM
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to recommend?

 

Yeah. That would be helpful for me as well! good Question Dusty!

 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com  

 

 

  _  

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to
recommend?

I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.

 

Thx

 

DH


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Fennell, Mark P. 
Indeed. A very fun site.
 
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/190/190.css&page=1
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/193/193.css&page=1
 
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/195/195.css&page=0
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/201/201.css&page=0
 
The same content all the time w/ different css applied. Wouldn't it be a
wonderful chaos to throw a different style at your users for every page
on your site -- even a different style for the same page everytime?
Sweet!
mf
 
 
 
 



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Be sure to add
 
http://www.csszengarden.com/
 
One that I believe our pal here Allen Underwood turned me/us on to a
couple years ago. 
 
Now, it's not a place for asking questions, but I sense that the ones
offered below are not either, so I thought it worth adding to that list.
 
 /Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/  

 




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Mark P.
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References I have bookmarked:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/
http://www.mandarindesign.com/
http://www.alistapart.com/
HTH
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2007-01-31 Thread Steven Ross 

tutorials:

http://css.maxdesign.com.au/index.htm

On 1/31/07, Charlie Arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Be sure to add

http://www.csszengarden.com/

One that I believe our pal here Allen Underwood turned me/us on to a couple
years ago.

Now, it's not a place for asking questions, but I sense that the ones
offered below are not either, so I thought it worth adding to that list.

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/




 
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References I have bookmarked:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/
http://www.mandarindesign.com/
http://www.alistapart.com/
HTH
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Rudi Shumpert 




This is the "cheat sheet"  I use all the time

http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/css/



Charlie Arehart wrote:

  
  

  
  Be sure to add
   
  http://www.csszengarden.com/
   
  One that I believe our pal here
Allen Underwood turned me/us on to a couple years ago. 
   
  Now, it's not a place for asking
questions, but I sense that the ones offered below are not either, so I
thought it worth adding to that list.
   
  /Charlie
  http://www.carehart.org/blog/ 
  
   
  
  
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Mark P.
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CSS user group to recommend?
  
  
  References I have bookmarked:
  http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/
  http://www.mandarindesign.com/
  http://www.alistapart.com/
  HTH
  mf
  
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Charlie Arehart 
Be sure to add
 
http://www.csszengarden.com/
 
One that I believe our pal here Allen Underwood turned me/us on to a couple
years ago. 
 
Now, it's not a place for asking questions, but I sense that the ones
offered below are not either, so I thought it worth adding to that list.
 
/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/  

 


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References I have bookmarked:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/
http://www.mandarindesign.com/
http://www.alistapart.com/
HTH
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2007-01-31 Thread Fennell, Mark P. 
References I have bookmarked:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/
http://www.mandarindesign.com/
http://www.alistapart.com/
HTH
mf
 




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I, too, suggest www.css-discuss.org.
People on that list have answered countless CSS questions of mine.

Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Ave.
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
www.objectivedesigns.com  

 




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user group to recommend?



I'm having a heak of time transitioning into CSS layout and
getting it work across browsers. Didn't want to bombard my fellows CFers
with OT questions. I ran a search on CSS user groups but there were so
many, I would much preferr to use a recommended one. For now, I am in
CSS hell. I must of done something bad in my formal life hehe :-)

 

Dusty





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Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:41 PM
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user group to recommend?

 

Yeah. That would be helpful for me as well! good Question Dusty!

 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com  

 

 





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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user
group to recommend?

I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out
there could recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a
google search but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try
that first.

 

Thx

 

DH


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: DataBase Design Forum/Lists?

2007-01-31 Thread Charlie Arehart 
Greg, you're right that design is pretty agnostic, but I'll share that I'm a
member of the MDF (which is the Atlanta SQL Server User Group--the name MDF
is a play on the filetype extension for SQL Server databases). 

Sadly, I wouldn't recommend their mailing list for such questions. It's very
low-volume and many questions go unanswered. Rarely do people even discuss
fundamentals. Plus they will be very SQL Server-focused.

I'm sure there must be better places for the kind of questions Robert wants
to ask--and generic as opposed to DB-specific--though I have to admit I
don't know of any. Let's hope others will chime in.

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/  

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It isn't MySQL, but I ran into this user group for Microsoft SQL Server:

http://www.atlantamdf.com/

Basic SQL and relational database design should still be the same between
the two systems.



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: DataBase Design Forum/Lists?

2007-01-31 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

I prefer SitePoint  simply because its one stop place for everything. They
have one group for databases and they have a special one for MySql. Apart
from sitepoint, I have heard a lot about DaniWeb 
but havent used it. I use SQLServer 2000 a lot and therefore I use
http://sqlservercentral.com/ for db issues. There are some others also for
SQL Server like SQLTeam & SQLSERVER
performance

I hope it helps.

Ajas.


On 1/31/07, Greg Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It isn't MySQL, but I ran into this user group for Microsoft SQL Server:

http://www.atlantamdf.com/

Basic SQL and relational database design should still be the same
between the two systems.

On 1/31/07, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Along with Dusty's question for CSS
> I also wonder if anyone knows a good place for newbies and pros to
confer
> about DB design?
> I use MySQL but I dont think it has to be MySQL specific.
>
>
>
> Robert P. Reil
>
> Managing Director,
>
> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
>
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
>
> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
>
> Office 770-974-8851
>
> Fax 770-974-8852
>
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
>
> 
> From: Dusty Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
> To: Carbs Sales&Service
> Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group
to
> recommend?
>
>
>
>
> I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
> recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google
search
> but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.
>
>
>
> Thx
>
>
>
> DH
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Daniel Hammond 
I, too, suggest www.css-discuss.org.
People on that list have answered countless CSS questions of mine.

Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Ave.
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
  www.objectivedesigns.com

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:51 PM
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to recommend?



I'm having a heak of time transitioning into CSS layout and getting it work
across browsers. Didn't want to bombard my fellows CFers with OT questions.
I ran a search on CSS user groups but there were so many, I would much
preferr to use a recommended one. For now, I am in CSS hell. I must of done
something bad in my formal life hehe :-)

 

Dusty


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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:41 PM
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to recommend?

 

Yeah. That would be helpful for me as well! good Question Dusty!

 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com  

 

 


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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
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Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to
recommend?

I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.

 

Thx

 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Dusty Hale 
Thanks for the responses from Dan and Ajas. I will look try these
recommendations and hopefully get a better grip on the situation. Ajas since
you asked, I may email you off list with some of the issues I am having. I
will try to solve it on my own first though. 

 

Many thanks to all.

 

Dusty

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to recommend?

 

Hi, 
I am a big fan of SitePoint forums. Try it. What is the issue you are
facing? Maybe you could post it in another group here(I think its called
community) that we have since this group is related to only CF related
issues.

Ajas Mohammed.

On 1/31/07, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yeah. That would be helpful for me as well! good Question Dusty!

 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com    

 

 

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To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to
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I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
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Thx

 

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: DataBase Design Forum/Lists?

2007-01-31 Thread Greg Drake 

It isn't MySQL, but I ran into this user group for Microsoft SQL Server:

http://www.atlantamdf.com/

Basic SQL and relational database design should still be the same
between the two systems.

On 1/31/07, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Along with Dusty's question for CSS
I also wonder if anyone knows a good place for newbies and pros to confer
about DB design?
I use MySQL but I dont think it has to be MySQL specific.



Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com


From: Dusty Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to
recommend?




I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.



Thx



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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Dusty Hale 
I'm having a heak of time transitioning into CSS layout and getting it work
across browsers. Didn't want to bombard my fellows CFers with OT questions.
I ran a search on CSS user groups but there were so many, I would much
preferr to use a recommended one. For now, I am in CSS hell. I must of done
something bad in my formal life hehe :-)

 

Dusty

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:41 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group
to recommend?

 

Yeah. That would be helpful for me as well! good Question Dusty!

 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com  

 

 

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From: Dusty Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to
recommend?

I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.

 

Thx

 

DH


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

Hi,
   I am a big fan of SitePoint forums. Try it. What is the issue you are
facing? Maybe you could post it in another group here(I think its called
community) that we have since this group is related to only CF related
issues.

Ajas Mohammed.

On 1/31/07, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Yeah. That would be helpful for me as well! good Question Dusty!


Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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*From:* Dusty Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
*To:* Carbs Sales&Service
*Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group
to recommend?

 I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.



Thx



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[ACFUG Discuss] OT: DataBase Design Forum/Lists?

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Reil 
Along with Dusty's question for CSS 
I also wonder if anyone knows a good place for newbies and pros to confer
about DB design?
I use MySQL but I dont think it has to be MySQL specific.
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com   

 

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From: Dusty Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to
recommend?



I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.

 

Thx

 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Reil 
Yeah. That would be helpful for me as well! good Question Dusty!
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com   

 

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From: Dusty Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:30 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to
recommend?



I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.

 

Thx

 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Dan Kaufman 
Dusty,

 

Here is the email to an EXCELLENT css user group. Once you get signed up
you'll probably get too much traffic from the list.  But there are some real
pros out there that can help you.

 

css-d@lists.css-discuss.org

 

 

Yours,

 

Dan Kaufman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:27 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to
recommend?

 

I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.

 

Thx

 

DH


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[ACFUG Discuss] OT does anyone have a favorite CSS user group to recommend?

2007-01-31 Thread Dusty Hale 
I am dealing with some CSS issues and wondered if anyone out there could
recommend a favorite user group. I know there are many on a google search
but if someone has a favorite one, I would like to try that first.

 

Thx

 

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box

2007-01-31 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

Hi,
Since we are discussing DW & Eclipse, I wanted to ask this question. In
DW when you have site configured and open a file, the full path is shown on
the top i.e. Macromedia DW 8 - \\10.10.10.2\wwwroot\Proj1\a.cfm, but in
Eclipse you have to hover over the tab of the open file and it doesnt give
you the detailed info. Is there anyway to make eclipse show the full path on
the very top where it says CFEclipse - Filename -Eclipse SDK?

One cool feature in Eclipse is that you could double click the tab of the
open file you want to work with and it hides all the other views/windows.
When you are done you can double click the tab again and you can see other
views/windows. In DW you have to manually hide other views/windows.

Ajas Mohammed.

On 1/29/07, Teddy Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Indeed, I have forgotten haven't I?

Sorry about that MC.

Similar to MGD Draft and MDG Lite, there is MCG Amber, which has a light
stature with a bold amber style.

I will try not to botch up the name next time.  =)

Teddy


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>
> *cough* MARY-CATHERINE *cough*  (I thought you were smart enough for
> this one Teddy)  Seeing how I have completely mucked up my Eclipse install
> at the moment, I cannot verify.   But there are more important points in
> this email.
>
> mcg
>
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>   *Teddy Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Mary,
> When you click the Background button under the CFEclipse CFML Colours,
> you get the standard colors associated with your operating system.  If you
> would like to have a custom color, you click "Define Custom Colors."
>
> As I am sure you know, it is based upon RGB, which translates every web
> safe octet like 0, 51,102,153, 204 and 255.  So, there is no problem
> changing the background color to black which would be R:0 G:0 B:0
>
> Teddy
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>
> On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]><
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
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> Not to #00 for the background
>
> mcg
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>   *"Shifang (Frank) Sun" <* [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * >*
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 01/29/2007 09:05 AM
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> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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>   To
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>  Subject
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> Eclipse does allow you to change the background color.
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> On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] *<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> < * [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
>
> As with others on the list, I go between CFEclipse and DW.  Eclipse has
> some nice plugins to allow you to modify your database without having to use
> some other application (there probably is something like this in DW, but I
> haven't gone searching).  I do prefer searching in DW, it seems to have an
> easier interface.  I suppose if I did a lot of layout, DW would be easier
> than there.
>
> A drawback with Eclipse is that I can't change the background to black
> but DW does allow for that, but I can get close enough (try it, it's easier
> on the eyes).   As for the large file size, I haven't had a problem with a
> 1700 line file, other than it's 1700 lines (only one of the thousands of
> reasons this app is being rewritten)!
>
> mcg
>
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>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 01/26/2007 03:47 PM
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> It may be an issue with the plugin.  If you want to test it out
> though...just copy and paste some code into cfeclipse that makes a file
> that's 2,500 lines of code and then go and try to add some code in the
> middle of the page.  You could type three lines of code and then watch it
> come across the screen in Doogie Howser fashion 15-20 seconds later!  It's
> insane.
>
> Allen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[mailto:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 
*<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]On
> Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
>
>
> Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on
> large files?  I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using
> CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects...  Could it be an
> issue with the plugin?
>
> -dhs
>
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> Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH *
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> "[U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only
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> On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, < [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
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