RE: [ACFUG Discuss] HostMySite observations?

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Morton
Dusty,

  And your new VPS provider  is...?

  Inquiring minds want to know!

 

Paul Morton

 

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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 9:15 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] HostMySite observations?

 

From total hosting stardom to complete has-been. I used to think they were
the best thing since sliced bread but now they're just plain difficult to
deal with and just not the same HostMySite that developers used to love. I
use them only because I still have a few shared sites left there and I plan
to move those eventually. I also had to move my Windows VPS and CF setup
because they just suddenly discontinued the service on it and tried to force
me to moving to their new cloud service at more than double the cost. We
found another reliable VPS provider for almost half of the original cost of
their VPS service they discontinued and the new provider we found has not
only saved us a ton of money but they've done a far better job than HMS has
done since they went downhill. Ironically I think about 1 year after killing
my VPS service, they started offering it again but it's too late it was too
much work to move it and the new provider is better and the cost is only
half what I was paying HMS.

Dusty

 

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Adam Churvis
a...@productivityenhancement.com wrote:

For those of you who have been hosting your or your clients' sites on
HostMySite for a number of years, how would you describe their quality trend
over time?

 

Thanks in advance for your replies.


 

Respectfully,

 

Adam Churvis

Productivity Enhancement





 

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[ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

2008-03-12 Thread Paul Morton
I'm just looking for ideas when creating a counter in a SQL server database.

I have a need for a counter that stores an integer value and increments the
counter each time it is used.

My inclination is to create a table with one record with one integer field
that is just retrieved, incremented, and updated each time I need a new
number.  

It seems sort of kludgey, and I would love to hear any other implementations
anyone may have used, or can dream up.  Also, if anyone can anticipate any
issues with this method, I would love to hear them.

 

I have no need for keeping any records of the numbers used.

 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

2008-03-12 Thread Paul Morton
Howard,

  Thanks.  I like the idea of doing it with a trigger.  

 

Paul 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Fore
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:02 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

 

Barring some other requirement that dictates otherwise, you'd be better off
to keep the incrementing function on the database. Use an insert trigger on
the table to update the row or make the field autoincrementing.

Howard

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Paul Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm just looking for ideas when creating a counter in a SQL server database.

I have a need for a counter that stores an integer value and increments the
counter each time it is used.

My inclination is to create a table with one record with one integer field
that is just retrieved, incremented, and updated each time I need a new
number.  

It seems sort of kludgey, and I would love to hear any other implementations
anyone may have used, or can dream up.  Also, if anyone can anticipate any
issues with this method, I would love to hear them.

 

I have no need for keeping any records of the numbers used.

 

Paul Morton

 


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

2008-03-12 Thread Paul Morton
Thanks Greg,

  I'm not looking to create a table full of records, which is what is
required to use the identity column.  I just want a number that is
incremented when used, keeping the table limited to one record.

  I currently have it working, but I run a select to retrieve the value,
then an update to increment the value.  I wish I could write a trigger on a
select.  I would like to do it in one step.

  It's just an exercise to eliminate a database action. 

 

Hope this makes sense.

  

  

 

Paul 

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p: 406 459-5634

f: 406 449-3151

w: www.mortonint.com

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McTure, Greg
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:12 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

 

Hi Paul:

 

There are a few functional ways you could do this; however, for the sake of
simplicity and quick implementation, I would consider using an IDENTITY
column with an INT or NUMERIC data type.  That will function just like the
auto num column for primary keys in an Access database.

 

You could also implement a trigger that will increment the number in the
specified column in the event of an insert and decrement it in the event of
a deletion.

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Morton
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:46 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

 

I'm just looking for ideas when creating a counter in a SQL server database.

I have a need for a counter that stores an integer value and increments the
counter each time it is used.

My inclination is to create a table with one record with one integer field
that is just retrieved, incremented, and updated each time I need a new
number.  

It seems sort of kludgey, and I would love to hear any other implementations
anyone may have used, or can dream up.  Also, if anyone can anticipate any
issues with this method, I would love to hear them.

 

I have no need for keeping any records of the numbers used.

 

Paul Morton

 


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

2008-03-12 Thread Paul Morton
That should work.  I'll try that.

Thanks.

 

Paul 

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f: 406 449-3151

w: www.mortonint.com

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:42 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

 

Couldn't you create a small stored procedure that will actually run the
select and subsequently increment the number?  Therefore you simply can the
stored procedure which in turn will return the record(s) you want and also
increment the value.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:38 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

 

Thanks Greg,

  I'm not looking to create a table full of records, which is what is
required to use the identity column.  I just want a number that is
incremented when used, keeping the table limited to one record.

  I currently have it working, but I run a select to retrieve the value,
then an update to increment the value.  I wish I could write a trigger on a
select.  I would like to do it in one step.

  It's just an exercise to eliminate a database action. 

 

Hope this makes sense.

  

  

 

Paul 

Paul Morton

Morton International Consulting, Inc.

p: 406 459-5634

f: 406 449-3151

w: www.mortonint.com

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McTure, Greg
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:12 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

 

Hi Paul:

 

There are a few functional ways you could do this; however, for the sake of
simplicity and quick implementation, I would consider using an IDENTITY
column with an INT or NUMERIC data type.  That will function just like the
auto num column for primary keys in an Access database.

 

You could also implement a trigger that will increment the number in the
specified column in the event of an insert and decrement it in the event of
a deletion.

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Morton
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:46 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Database incremental Counter

 

I'm just looking for ideas when creating a counter in a SQL server database.

I have a need for a counter that stores an integer value and increments the
counter each time it is used.

My inclination is to create a table with one record with one integer field
that is just retrieved, incremented, and updated each time I need a new
number.  

It seems sort of kludgey, and I would love to hear any other implementations
anyone may have used, or can dream up.  Also, if anyone can anticipate any
issues with this method, I would love to hear them.

 

I have no need for keeping any records of the numbers used.

 

Paul Morton

 


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Dreamweaver 8 Savng Passwords

2007-08-06 Thread Paul Morton
Scott,
  I've been using DW8 since it came out, and have never experienced that
behavior.  Sorry I can't help, but thought I would give you one data point
in your investigation.
  I'm at version 8.0.2.
Paul Morton

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More a frustration than anything else but is anyone else having problems
with DW8 losing the login information for their remote sites?  Actually the
site I am having trouble with uses FTP to connect.  Could it be the server I
am connecting to?

 


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Dreamweaver 8 Savng Passwords

2007-08-06 Thread Paul Morton
Just found this on Adobe site
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=a3f38dcf
pertinent sentence:
The 8.0.2 update fixes a problem of FTP usernames and passwords in
Dreamweaver site definitions being deleted when you close and re-open
Dreamweaver 8 or when you reboot your machine. This problem is the result of
a change introduced in Internet Explorer 7. 

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More a frustration than anything else but is anyone else having problems
with DW8 losing the login information for their remote sites?  Actually the
site I am having trouble with uses FTP to connect.  Could it be the server I
am connecting to?

 


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[ACFUG Discuss] OT: SQL help

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Morton
I apologize for the OT post, but I'm getting frustrated.
 
I am attempting to use a UDF to split a varchar (comma delimited list of
ints) in an IN clause in a SQL statement, and I'm not able to get the SQL
statement to pass a Table field to the UDF.
 
I'm hoping someone sees a glaring error, or can tell me I can't do this.
MS SQL 2000

CREATE FUNCTION dbo.Split
 (
  @List nvarchar(2000),
  @SplitOn nvarchar(5)
 )  
 RETURNS @RtnValue table 
 (
  
  Id int identity(1,1),
  Value nvarchar(100)
 ) 
 AS  
 BEGIN 
  While (Charindex(@SplitOn,@List)0)
  Begin
 
   Insert Into @RtnValue (value)
   Select 
Value = ltrim(rtrim(Substring(@List,1,Charindex(@SplitOn,@List)-1)))
 
   Set @List =
Substring(@List,Charindex(@SplitOn,@List)+len(@SplitOn),len(@List))
  End
 
  Insert Into @RtnValue (Value)
  Select Value = ltrim(rtrim(@List))
 
  Return
 END



SQL Statement
SELECT *
FROM dbo.ORDER_ITEMS oi LEFT OUTER JOIN
  dbo.AP_translation tr ON tr.option_id IN
(select convert(int,Value) from dbo.Split(oi.OptionIDs, ','))
WHERE (oi.Order_ID = 12387)

_
Error received:
Server: Msg 170, Level 15, State 1, Line 4
Line 4: Incorrect syntax near '.'.
 
 
OptionIDs is a varchar(255) field with a comma delimited list of integers.
It doesn't like the oi.OptionIDs.  If I put in a list like '0,1,2' in it's
place, the query works.
 
Can I not pass a field into a UDF?
Is there another way to skin this cat?
 
 
Paul



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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: SQL help

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Morton
Teddy,
Any idea why do I get an error in Query Analyzer :
 
SQL Statement
SELECT *
FROM dbo.ORDER_ITEMS oi LEFT OUTER JOIN
  dbo.AP_translation tr ON tr.option_id IN
(select convert(int,Value) from dbo.Split(oi.OptionIDs, ','))
WHERE (oi.Order_ID = 12387)
 
Error received:
Server: Msg 170, Level 15, State 1, Line 4
Line 4: Incorrect syntax near '.'.
 
Paul

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy R Payne
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:10 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
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You use it in an adhoc query in query analyzer or SSMA.  I have not tried it
as an ad hoc query in CF as I myself tend not to use cfquery wherever I can.
 
Teddy

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To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: SQL help

Without creating a SP, can I use this in a select statement?

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Paul,
There is already an open source function in SQL Server to do this for you:
 
http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/031004-1.shtml
 
They explain how to put it together.  
 
Here is the function creation for how I put it together from their
explanation:
 
if exists (select * from dbo.sysobjects where id =
object_id(N'[dbo].[Split]') and xtype in (N'FN', N'IF', N'TF'))
drop function [dbo].[Split]
GO
 
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF 
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS OFF 
GO
 

CREATE  FUNCTION dbo.Split
(
 @List nvarchar(4000),
 @SplitOn nvarchar(5)
)  
 
RETURNS @RtnValue table 
(
  
 Id int identity(1,1),
 Value nvarchar(250)
) 
 
AS  
 
BEGIN
 
 While (Charindex(@SplitOn,@List)0)
 Begin
 
  Insert Into 
   @RtnValue
(
value
   )
  Select
   Value = ltrim(rtrim(Substring(@List,1,Charindex(@SplitOn,@List)-1)))
 
  Set @List =
Substring(@List,Charindex(@SplitOn,@List)+len(@SplitOn),len(@List))
 End
 
 Insert Into 
  @RtnValue 
  (
   Value
  )
 Select 
  Value = ltrim(rtrim(@List))
 
 Return
 
END
 
GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF 
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS ON 
GO
 
It is implemented as such:
 
CREATE PROCEDURE getEmployeesByID(@employeeList nvarchar(1000))
AS
 
Select 
   employeeId, -- integer (int)
   FirstName, 
   LastName 
from #myTable
Where 
   employeeId IN (Select convert(int,Value) from
dbo.Split(@employeeList,','))
 
 
Cheers,
Teddy
 
 

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From: Paul Morton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: SQL help

I apologize for the OT post, but I'm getting frustrated.
 
I am attempting to use a UDF to split a varchar (comma delimited list of
ints) in an IN clause in a SQL statement, and I'm not able to get the SQL
statement to pass a Table field to the UDF.
 
I'm hoping someone sees a glaring error, or can tell me I can't do this.
MS SQL 2000

CREATE FUNCTION dbo.Split
 (
  @List nvarchar(2000),
  @SplitOn nvarchar(5)
 )  
 RETURNS @RtnValue table 
 (
  
  Id int identity(1,1),
  Value nvarchar(100)
 ) 
 AS  
 BEGIN 
  While (Charindex(@SplitOn,@List)0)
  Begin
 
   Insert Into @RtnValue (value)
   Select 
Value = ltrim(rtrim(Substring(@List,1,Charindex(@SplitOn,@List)-1)))
 
   Set @List =
Substring(@List,Charindex(@SplitOn,@List)+len(@SplitOn),len(@List))
  End
 
  Insert Into @RtnValue (Value)
  Select Value = ltrim(rtrim(@List))
 
  Return
 END




SQL Statement
SELECT *
FROM dbo.ORDER_ITEMS oi LEFT OUTER JOIN
  dbo.AP_translation tr ON tr.option_id IN
(select convert(int,Value) from dbo.Split(oi.OptionIDs, ','))
WHERE (oi.Order_ID = 12387)

_
Error received:
Server: Msg 170, Level 15, State 1, Line 4
Line 4: Incorrect syntax near '.'.
 
 
OptionIDs is a varchar(255) field with a comma delimited list of integers.
It doesn't like the oi.OptionIDs.  If I put in a list like '0,1,2' in it's
place, the query works.
 
Can I not pass a field into a UDF?
Is there another way to skin this cat?
 
 
Paul

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[ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date

2007-04-26 Thread Paul Morton
Hi all.  I have a small problem for which I'm hoping there is a simple
solution.
I am pulling a date from an Informix database using an undocumented Web
Service and I am getting a date that looks like:
[time=103129560,areFieldsSet=true,areAllFieldsSet=true,lenient=true,zone
=sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSav
ings=360,useDaylight=true,transitions=185,lastRule=java.util.SimpleTimeZ
one[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSavings=360,useDaylight=t
rue,startYear=0,startMode=3,startMonth=2,startDay=8,startDayOfWeek=1,startTi
me=720,startTimeMode=0,endMode=3,endMonth=10,endDay=1,endDayOfWeek=1,end
Time=720,endTimeMode=0]],firstDayOfWeek=1,minimalDaysInFirstWeek=1,ERA=1
,YEAR=2002,MONTH=8,WEEK_OF_YEAR=36,WEEK_OF_MONTH=1,DAY_OF_MONTH=6,DAY_OF_YEA
R=249,DAY_OF_WEEK=6,DAY_OF_WEEK_IN_MONTH=1,AM_PM=0,HOUR=0,HOUR_OF_DAY=0,MINU
TE=0,SECOND=0,MILLISECOND=0,ZONE_OFFSET=-2880,DST_OFFSET=360]
I need to get this into a CFML date format and I was about to start
developing a parsing routine, and the thought occurred to me that someone
might recognize this data format and have a ready made solution to parsing
the date from this.
Anybody have a quick solution, or should I just hard code a parser?
 
Paul



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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date

2007-04-26 Thread Paul Morton
Larry,
I suspected that was the  time=103 , but I wasn't sure of the start
date.  Guess I could calculate it.  
I was going to pull the YEAR, MONTH, and DAY_OF_MONTH out and create a date
in CF. 
Just thought there may be a function or something available.
 
Paul
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry J. Morrow
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:40 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


Hi Paul,

I would check to see if this is a converted date showing the number of
seconds since 01-01-1900.  That was a format used by some systems to hold
the date in a numerical format for easier and a more universal storage
format.

I used to do this on *nix systems all the time.

I will look around but I do not have the reverse readily available.

Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Hi all.  I have a small problem for which I'm hoping there is a simple
solution.
I am pulling a date from an Informix database using an undocumented Web
Service and I am getting a date that looks like:
[time=103129560,areFieldsSet=true,areAllFieldsSet=true,lenient=true,zone
=sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSav
ings=360,useDaylight=true,transitions=185,lastRule=java.util.SimpleTimeZ
one[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSavings=360,useDaylight=t
rue,startYear=0,startMode=3,startMonth=2,startDay=8,startDayOfWeek=1,startTi
me=720,startTimeMode=0,endMode=3,endMonth=10,endDay=1,endDayOfWeek=1,end
Time=720,endTimeMode=0]],firstDayOfWeek=1,minimalDaysInFirstWeek=1,ERA=1
,YEAR=2002,MONTH=8,WEEK_OF_YEAR=36,WEEK_OF_MONTH=1,DAY_OF_MONTH=6,DAY_OF_YEA
R=249,DAY_OF_WEEK=6,DAY_OF_WEEK_IN_MONTH=1,AM_PM=0,HOUR=0,HOUR_OF_DAY=0,MINU
TE=0,SECOND=0,MILLISECOND=0,ZONE_OFFSET=-2880,DST_OFFSET=360]
I need to get this into a CFML date format and I was about to start
developing a parsing routine, and the thought occurred to me that someone
might recognize this data format and have a ready made solution to parsing
the date from this.
Anybody have a quick solution, or should I just hard code a parser?
 
Paul

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date

2007-04-26 Thread Paul Morton
Larry,
  I did find that the Unix Time Stamp is from January 1, 1970 in one
reference.  I'm just going to write a routine to pull the Month Day and Year
out and create a CF date.
Paul

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry J. Morrow
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:13 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


Hi Paul,

There is something out there and I have used it, but it escaping me right
now.  I thought it used the word equinox or 01-01-2900 or time in the
instructions/help files.  Try a few Google searches and see what comes back.

I am pretty sure about the starting date.  

Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Larry,
I suspected that was the  time=103 , but I wasn't sure of the start
date.  Guess I could calculate it.  
I was going to pull the YEAR, MONTH, and DAY_OF_MONTH out and create a date
in CF. 
Just thought there may be a function or something available.
 
Paul
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry J. Morrow
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:40 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


Hi Paul,

I would check to see if this is a converted date showing the number of
seconds since 01-01-1900.  That was a format used by some systems to hold
the date in a numerical format for easier and a more universal storage
format.

I used to do this on *nix systems all the time.

I will look around but I do not have the reverse readily available.

Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Hi all.  I have a small problem for which I'm hoping there is a simple
solution.
I am pulling a date from an Informix database using an undocumented Web
Service and I am getting a date that looks like:
[time=103129560,areFieldsSet=true,areAllFieldsSet=true,lenient=true,zone
=sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSav
ings=360,useDaylight=true,transitions=185,lastRule=java.util.SimpleTimeZ
one[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSavings=360,useDaylight=t
rue,startYear=0,startMode=3,startMonth=2,startDay=8,startDayOfWeek=1,startTi
me=720,startTimeMode=0,endMode=3,endMonth=10,endDay=1,endDayOfWeek=1,end
Time=720,endTimeMode=0]],firstDayOfWeek=1,minimalDaysInFirstWeek=1,ERA=1
,YEAR=2002,MONTH=8,WEEK_OF_YEAR=36,WEEK_OF_MONTH=1,DAY_OF_MONTH=6,DAY_OF_YEA
R=249,DAY_OF_WEEK=6,DAY_OF_WEEK_IN_MONTH=1,AM_PM=0,HOUR=0,HOUR_OF_DAY=0,MINU
TE=0,SECOND=0,MILLISECOND=0,ZONE_OFFSET=-2880,DST_OFFSET=360]
I need to get this into a CFML date format and I was about to start
developing a parsing routine, and the thought occurred to me that someone
might recognize this data format and have a ready made solution to parsing
the date from this.
Anybody have a quick solution, or should I just hard code a parser?
 
Paul

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date

2007-04-26 Thread Paul Morton
Teddy and Larry,
 
I ended up using:
#CreateDate(Mid(CDate,find(YEAR,CDate)+5,Find(,MONTH=,CDATE)-find(YEAR
,CDate)-5),Mid(CDate,find(MONTH,CDate)+6,find(,WEEK_OF_YEAR,CDate)-find(
,MONTH=,CDate)-5),Mid(CDate,find(DAY_OF_MONTH,CDate)+13,find(,DAY_OF_YE
AR,CDate)-find(DAY_OF_MONTH,CDate)-13))#
Messy but it works.
Paul

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy R. Payne
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:43 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


Paul,
The data has many informative pieces in it.

Specifically, java.util.SimpleTimeZone gives you your time zone
considerations as explained:
http://72.5.124.55/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/util/SimpleTimeZone.html

Now it has both sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo and java.util.SimpleTimeZone. I
suspect this is to allow for backwards compatibility of time zones from java
versions 1.3-1.5.

I believe 103129560 is the number of milliseconds from 1970.  Don't
quote me.  =)

I would use list and struct manipulation to get the latter portion of the
code:

cfscript
/** 
 * Converts a delimited list of key/value pairs to a structure.
 *
 * @param list  List of key/value pairs to initialize the structure
with.  Format follows key=value.
 * @param delimiter  Delimiter seperating the key/value pairs.  Default
is the comma. 
 * @return Returns a structure.
 * @author Rob Brooks-Bilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 * @version 1.0, December 10, 2001
 */
function ListToStruct(list){
  var myStruct=StructNew(); 
  var i=0;
  var delimiter=,;
  if (ArrayLen(arguments) gt 1){
delimiter = arguments[2];
  }
  for (i=1; i LTE ListLen(list, delimiter); i=i+1){
StructInsert(myStruct,  ListFirst(ListGetAt(list, i, delimiter), =),
ListLast(ListGetAt(list, i, delimiter), =)); 
  }
  return myStruct;
}
/cfscript


cfset iTime =
'[time=103129560,areFieldsSet=true,areAllFieldsSet=true,lenient=true,zon
e=sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSa
vings=360,useDaylight=true,transitions=185,lastRule=
java.util.SimpleTimeZone[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSavings=
360,useDaylight=true,startYear=0,startMode=3,startMonth=2,startDay=8,sta
rtDayOfWeek=1,startTime=720,startTimeMode=0,endMode=3,endMonth=10,endDay
=1,endDayOfWeek=1,endTime=720,endTimeMode=0]],firstDayOfWeek=1,minimalDa
ysInFirstWeek=1,ERA=1,YEAR=2002,MONTH=8,WEEK_OF_YEAR=36,WEEK_OF_MONTH=1,DAY_
OF_MONTH=6,DAY_OF_YEAR=249,DAY_OF_WEEK=6,DAY_OF_WEEK_IN_MONTH=1,AM_PM=0,HOUR
=0,HOUR_OF_DAY=0,MINUTE=0,SECOND=0,MILLISECOND=0,ZONE_OFFSET=-2880,DST_O
FFSET=360]' 

cfset iTime = ListGetAt(iTime,2,]])

cfset sTime = ListToStruct(iTime)

cfset cfDate =
createDate(sTime[year],sTime[month],sTime[day_of_month]) 

cfdump var=#cfDate#






On 4/26/07, Larry J. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Oops, I forgot we change to 1970 back around 2000 with all of the bios
updates. 


Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Larry,
  I did find that the Unix Time Stamp is from January 1, 1970 in one
reference.  I'm just going to write a routine to pull the Month Day and Year
out and create a CF date.
Paul

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
On
Behalf Of Larry J. Morrow
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:13 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


Hi Paul,

There is something out there and I have used it, but it escaping me right
now.  I thought it used the word equinox or 01-01-2900 or time in the
instructions/help files.  Try a few Google searches and see what comes back.

I am pretty sure about the starting date.  

Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Larry,
I suspected that was the  time=103 , but I wasn't sure of the start
date.  Guess I could calculate it.  
I was going to pull the YEAR, MONTH, and DAY_OF_MONTH out and create a date
in CF. 
Just thought there may be a function or something available.
 
Paul
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On
Behalf Of Larry J. Morrow
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:40 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


Hi Paul,

I would check to see if this is a converted date showing the number of
seconds since 01-01-1900.  That was a format used by some systems to hold
the date in a numerical format for easier and a more universal storage
format.

I used to do this on *nix systems all the time.

I will look around but I do not have the reverse readily available.

Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Hi all.  I have a small problem for which I'm hoping there is a simple
solution.
I am pulling a date from an Informix database using an undocumented Web
Service and I am getting a date that looks like:
[time=103129560,areFieldsSet=true,areAllFieldsSet=true,lenient=true,zone
=sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSav
ings=360,useDaylight=true,transitions=185

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date

2007-04-26 Thread Paul Morton
I agree.  I am going to run it against the database of about 38000 dates
that exist and make sure it at least gets actual values for the dates.  
I'm working on an enhanced version, but at least I have something that I
know works sometimes.  
I appreciate the feedback and suggestions.
 
Paul
 -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy R. Payne
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:17 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date



You may want to test that code a little more at different parts of the day.
My concern would be if the web service returned the string with a different
placement of the data you are looking for.


On 4/26/07, Paul Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Teddy and Larry,
 
I ended up using:
#CreateDate(Mid(CDate,find(YEAR,CDate)+5,Find(,MONTH=,CDATE)-find(YEAR
,CDate)-5),Mid(CDate,find(MONTH,CDate)+6,find(,WEEK_OF_YEAR,CDate)-find(
,MONTH=,CDate)-5),Mid(CDate,find(DAY_OF_MONTH,CDate)+13,find(,DAY_OF_YE
AR,CDate)-find(DAY_OF_MONTH,CDate)-13))# 
Messy but it works.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Teddy R. Payne
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:43 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


Paul,
The data has many informative pieces in it.

Specifically, java.util.SimpleTimeZone gives you your time zone
considerations as explained:
http://72.5.124.55/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/util/SimpleTimeZone.html
http://72.5.124.55/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/util/SimpleTimeZone.html 

Now it has both sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo and java.util.SimpleTimeZone. I
suspect this is to allow for backwards compatibility of time zones from java
versions 1.3-1.5.

I believe 103129560 is the number of milliseconds from 1970.  Don't
quote me.  =)

I would use list and struct manipulation to get the latter portion of the
code:

cfscript
/** 
 * Converts a delimited list of key/value pairs to a structure.
 *
 * @param list  List of key/value pairs to initialize the structure
with.  Format follows key=value.
 * @param delimiter  Delimiter seperating the key/value pairs.  Default
is the comma. 
 * @return Returns a structure.
 * @author Rob Brooks-Bilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 * @version 1.0, December 10, 2001
 */
function ListToStruct(list){
  var myStruct=StructNew(); 
  var i=0;
  var delimiter=,;
  if (ArrayLen(arguments) gt 1){
delimiter = arguments[2];
  }
  for (i=1; i LTE ListLen(list, delimiter); i=i+1){
StructInsert(myStruct,  ListFirst(ListGetAt(list, i, delimiter), =),
ListLast(ListGetAt(list, i, delimiter), =)); 
  }
  return myStruct;
}
/cfscript


cfset iTime =
'[time=103129560,areFieldsSet=true,areAllFieldsSet=true,lenient=true,zon
e=sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSa
vings=360,useDaylight=true,transitions=185,lastRule=
java.util.SimpleTimeZone[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSavings=
360,useDaylight=true,startYear=0,startMode=3,startMonth=2,startDay=8,sta
rtDayOfWeek=1,startTime=720,startTimeMode=0,endMode=3,endMonth=10,endDay
=1,endDayOfWeek=1,endTime=720,endTimeMode=0]],firstDayOfWeek=1,minimalDa
ysInFirstWeek=1,ERA=1,YEAR=2002,MONTH=8,WEEK_OF_YEAR=36,WEEK_OF_MONTH=1,DAY_
OF_MONTH=6,DAY_OF_YEAR=249,DAY_OF_WEEK=6,DAY_OF_WEEK_IN_MONTH=1,AM_PM=0,HOUR
=0,HOUR_OF_DAY=0,MINUTE=0,SECOND=0,MILLISECOND=0,ZONE_OFFSET=-2880,DST_O
FFSET=360]' 

cfset iTime = ListGetAt(iTime,2,]])

cfset sTime = ListToStruct(iTime)

cfset cfDate =
createDate(sTime[year],sTime[month],sTime[day_of_month]) 

cfdump var=#cfDate#






On 4/26/07, Larry J. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Oops, I forgot we change to 1970 back around 2000 with all of the bios
updates. 


Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Larry,
  I did find that the Unix Time Stamp is from January 1, 1970 in one
reference.  I'm just going to write a routine to pull the Month Day and Year
out and create a CF date.
Paul

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On
Behalf Of Larry J. Morrow
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:13 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


Hi Paul,

There is something out there and I have used it, but it escaping me right
now.  I thought it used the word equinox or 01-01-2900 or time in the
instructions/help files.  Try a few Google searches and see what comes back.

I am pretty sure about the starting date.  

Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Larry,
I suspected that was the  time=103 , but I wasn't sure of the start
date.  Guess I could calculate it.  
I was going to pull the YEAR, MONTH, and DAY_OF_MONTH out and create a date
in CF. 
Just thought there may be a function or something available.
 
Paul
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On
Behalf Of Larry J. Morrow
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:40 AM

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date

2007-04-26 Thread Paul Morton
This works, and is independent of Position.  Might have other problems, so
let me know if you think it might have issues as well.
 
CreateDate(Val(Mid(CDate,find(YEAR=,CDate)+5,4)),Val(Mid(CDate,find(,MONT
H=,CDate)+7,2)),Val(Mid(CDate,find(DAY_OF_MONTH,CDate)+13,2)))

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy R. Payne
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:17 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


You may want to test that code a little more at different parts of the day.
My concern would be if the web service returned the string with a different
placement of the data you are looking for.


On 4/26/07, Paul Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Teddy and Larry,
 
I ended up using:
#CreateDate(Mid(CDate,find(YEAR,CDate)+5,Find(,MONTH=,CDATE)-find(YEAR
,CDate)-5),Mid(CDate,find(MONTH,CDate)+6,find(,WEEK_OF_YEAR,CDate)-find(
,MONTH=,CDate)-5),Mid(CDate,find(DAY_OF_MONTH,CDate)+13,find(,DAY_OF_YE
AR,CDate)-find(DAY_OF_MONTH,CDate)-13))# 
Messy but it works.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Teddy R. Payne
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:43 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Parsing Date


Paul,
The data has many informative pieces in it.

Specifically, java.util.SimpleTimeZone gives you your time zone
considerations as explained:
http://72.5.124.55/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/util/SimpleTimeZone.html
http://72.5.124.55/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/util/SimpleTimeZone.html 

Now it has both sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo and java.util.SimpleTimeZone. I
suspect this is to allow for backwards compatibility of time zones from java
versions 1.3-1.5.

I believe 103129560 is the number of milliseconds from 1970.  Don't
quote me.  =)

I would use list and struct manipulation to get the latter portion of the
code:

cfscript
/** 
 * Converts a delimited list of key/value pairs to a structure.
 *
 * @param list  List of key/value pairs to initialize the structure
with.  Format follows key=value.
 * @param delimiter  Delimiter seperating the key/value pairs.  Default
is the comma. 
 * @return Returns a structure.
 * @author Rob Brooks-Bilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 * @version 1.0, December 10, 2001
 */
function ListToStruct(list){
  var myStruct=StructNew(); 
  var i=0;
  var delimiter=,;
  if (ArrayLen(arguments) gt 1){
delimiter = arguments[2];
  }
  for (i=1; i LTE ListLen(list, delimiter); i=i+1){
StructInsert(myStruct,  ListFirst(ListGetAt(list, i, delimiter), =),
ListLast(ListGetAt(list, i, delimiter), =)); 
  }
  return myStruct;
}
/cfscript


cfset iTime =
'[time=103129560,areFieldsSet=true,areAllFieldsSet=true,lenient=true,zon
e=sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSa
vings=360,useDaylight=true,transitions=185,lastRule=
java.util.SimpleTimeZone[id=America/Los_Angeles,offset=-2880,dstSavings=
360,useDaylight=true,startYear=0,startMode=3,startMonth=2,startDay=8,sta
rtDayOfWeek=1,startTime=720,startTimeMode=0,endMode=3,endMonth=10,endDay
=1,endDayOfWeek=1,endTime=720,endTimeMode=0]],firstDayOfWeek=1,minimalDa
ysInFirstWeek=1,ERA=1,YEAR=2002,MONTH=8,WEEK_OF_YEAR=36,WEEK_OF_MONTH=1,DAY_
OF_MONTH=6,DAY_OF_YEAR=249,DAY_OF_WEEK=6,DAY_OF_WEEK_IN_MONTH=1,AM_PM=0,HOUR
=0,HOUR_OF_DAY=0,MINUTE=0,SECOND=0,MILLISECOND=0,ZONE_OFFSET=-2880,DST_O
FFSET=360]' 

cfset iTime = ListGetAt(iTime,2,]])

cfset sTime = ListToStruct(iTime)

cfset cfDate =
createDate(sTime[year],sTime[month],sTime[day_of_month]) 

cfdump var=#cfDate#






On 4/26/07, Larry J. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Oops, I forgot we change to 1970 back around 2000 with all of the bios
updates. 


Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Larry,
  I did find that the Unix Time Stamp is from January 1, 1970 in one
reference.  I'm just going to write a routine to pull the Month Day and Year
out and create a CF date.
Paul

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Hi Paul,

There is something out there and I have used it, but it escaping me right
now.  I thought it used the word equinox or 01-01-2900 or time in the
instructions/help files.  Try a few Google searches and see what comes back.

I am pretty sure about the starting date.  

Larry

Paul Morton wrote: 

Larry,
I suspected that was the  time=103 , but I wasn't sure of the start
date.  Guess I could calculate it.  
I was going to pull the YEAR, MONTH, and DAY_OF_MONTH out and create a date
in CF. 
Just thought there may be a function or something available.
 
Paul
 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] developing cf apps with sql server express databases

2007-04-12 Thread Paul Morton
http://www.microsoft.com/products/info/product.aspx?view=22
http://www.microsoft.com/products/info/product.aspx?view=22pcid=f544888c-2
638-48ed-9f0f-d814e8b93ca0type=ovr#HowToBuy
pcid=f544888c-2638-48ed-9f0f-d814e8b93ca0type=ovr#HowToBuy
Developer Edition: $49.95
 
Paul

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databases


Yes, developing on express should be fine locally but trying to copy data
may be a bit of a pain if you're using studio express as there's no tools
for doing data transformations in the express version.  However, I think you
can buy a developer copy of sql server 2005 for something like $40 (I was
just reminded of this today).
 
Allen

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databases


Anyone use SQL Server Express for developing CF apps on a local PC with
windows XP Pro? Is this a good (cheap) solution for a development platform
if the live platform will have SQL Server 2005? Will a database developed
with SQL Server Express port over well and is the Interface for SQL Server
Express similar to Enterprise Manager? 
 
Thx,
 
Dusty 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] coldfusion web hosting

2007-04-09 Thread Paul Morton
I've been real happy with CFDYNAMICS.COM.


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: CAPTCHA Effectiveness

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Morton

Thanks everyone for your comments and links to other resources.  It's
provided some very good reading on the topic, and some great insight.
 

Paul Morton   



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This subject, of whether one should worry about someone trying to break a
captcha on your own site, is something I blogged about:

Captchas: making them simpler, and dialing down the angst against
them

http://carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2006/8/17/the_angst_against_captc
has

I was making the point (which may address some of your concerns Paul) that
the default captcha used by LylaCaptcha, which underlies BlogCFC, was just
more complicated than it needed to be (which could be hurting bloggers whose
sites were being protected by it).  As I said there, my blog is not a bank,
so I don't need to worry about people breaking in to leave me a spam
comment. It's just not worth it to them. I just felt the captcha could be
simplified without grave risk, based on the arguments in the entry above:

Simplifying the captcha graphic in Lyla Captcha (and BlogCFC)

http://carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2006/8/17/simplifying_lyla_in_blo
gcfc

I used the analogy of putting on a screen door versus a double-key deadbolt.

It seems my arguments made sense. Besides the favorable comments, soon after
those entries, Ray changed the default in BlogCFC to use the simpler captcha
I advocated. 

But for those using an older version, I offer the XML file to update it at:

Want to simplify your Blogcfc (or other Lyla-based) captcha? Here's
the XML file.

http://carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2006/10/7/lyla_captcha_simplified
_xml_file

As usual, my answer is more than you asked, Paul, but I hope it's helpful to
you and others.

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/  

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Thanks for the quick response Dean.  
I guess if you paid someone to fill out the forms manually, there is really
no way to stop it, short of taking the form off line.

Paul Morton   



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CAPTCHA is easy to bypass, in general.  If there is enough value you can do
it programatically or pay poor people in developing countries to manually
bypass CAPTCHA devices.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
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necessity in any country where people are themselves free.
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 Sorry about the off topic post, but I'm curious as to how effective
 people have found CAPTCHA at stopping, or at least slowing down the 
 SPAM form hijacking on public pages?

 I have little experience on public sites as most of my development is
 on intranet sites.

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2007-02-28 Thread Paul Morton
Sorry about the off topic post, but I'm curious as to how effective people
have found CAPTCHA at stopping, or at least slowing down the SPAM form
hijacking on public pages?
 
I have little experience on public sites as most of my development is on
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: CAPTCHA Effectiveness

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Morton
Thanks for the quick response Dean.  
I guess if you paid someone to fill out the forms manually, there is really
no way to stop it, short of taking the form off line.

Paul Morton   



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CAPTCHA is easy to bypass, in general.  If there is enough value you  
can do it programatically or pay poor people in developing countries  
to manually bypass CAPTCHA devices.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
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a necessity in any country where people are themselves free.
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On Feb 28, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Paul Morton wrote:

 Sorry about the off topic post, but I'm curious as to how effective
 people have found CAPTCHA at stopping, or at least slowing down the  
 SPAM form hijacking on public pages?

 I have little experience on public sites as most of my development
 is on intranet sites.

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Test

2007-01-09 Thread Paul Morton
Back at ya!
 
 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able Commerce

2006-06-08 Thread Paul Morton
Title: Message



Cody,
 
I'm surprised to hear that. My understanding is that the CF version has 
been around a while. That's a good point for me to get 
clarified.
 
I did hear (from an Able Commerce employee) that the current development 
team tends to develop improvements on the DotNet platform first and apply the 
changes to the CF version latter. 
 
It looks like the client is leaning towards the CF version right now just due to 
the lower learning curve to modify source code. They have no experience in 
either technology but are much more impressed with the ease of understandability 
in the CF side.
 
Thanks for the feedback. 
 

Paul 
Morton 


  
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cody WehuntSent: 
  Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:07 PMTo: 
  discussion@acfug.orgSubject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able 
  Commerce
  
  Paul,
  
  Also keep in mind 
  that the CF version is fairly new compared to the Dot Net (old ASP) 
  version. On a project I worked on in the past I found it odd they 
  actually sold a beta. But the good thing is I think for the money you 
  can definitely get some great built in 
  functionality.
  
  Cody
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Paul MortonSent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:05 
  AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able 
  Commerce
  
  
  Iam interestedin 
  feedback on Able Commerce. I have a client that is very interested 
  in moving to that package, andwould welcome yourthoughtson 
  any support issues, performance, or implementation issues. 
  
  
  Any thoughts on the Dot Net 
  version vs. the CFMX version would also be helpful. 
  
  
  
  
  Paul 
  Morton 
  
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able Commerce

2006-06-08 Thread Paul Morton
Thanks Cam.  

Paul Morton   



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Paul - Able Commerce was originally a CF only product.  It was definitly
first built in CF and them later ported to .NET (sometime around
2001/2002?).  However, I suspect that if the .NET version sold better that
they may now be putting features in the .NET version first and then porting
them to CF later.

-Cameron

On 6/8/06, Paul Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Cody,
   I'm surprised to hear that.  My understanding is that the CF version 
 has been around a while.  That's a good point for me to get clarified.
   I did hear (from an Able Commerce employee)  that the current 
 development team tends to develop improvements on the DotNet platform 
 first and apply the changes to the CF version latter.
   It looks like the client is leaning towards the CF version right now 
 just due to the lower learning curve to modify source code.  They have 
 no experience in either technology but are much more impressed with 
 the ease of understandability in the CF side.
   Thanks for the feedback.


 Paul Morton


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 Wehunt
 Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:07 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able Commerce





 Paul,



 Also keep in mind that the CF version is fairly new compared to the 
 Dot Net (old ASP) version.  On a project I worked on in the past I 
 found it odd they actually sold a beta.  But the good thing is I think 
 for the money you can definitely get some great built in 
 functionality.



 Cody



  


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
 Morton
 Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:05 AM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able Commerce




 I am interested in feedback on Able Commerce .  I have a client that 
 is very interested in moving to that package, and would welcome your 
 thoughts on any support issues, performance, or implementation issues.


 Any thoughts on the Dot Net version vs. the CFMX version would also be 
 helpful.





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[ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able Commerce

2006-06-07 Thread Paul Morton
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Iam 
interestedin feedback on Able Commerce. I have a client that 
is very interested in moving to that package, andwould welcome 
yourthoughtson any support issues, performance, or implementation 
issues. 
Any thoughts on the 
Dot Net version vs. the CFMX version would also be helpful. 


Paul Morton 




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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able Commerce

2006-06-07 Thread Paul Morton
Title: Message



Thanks 
Robert and Leon for the feedback. 

Paul 
Morton 


  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert ReilSent: 
  Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:13 AMTo: 
  discussion@acfug.orgSubject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able 
  Commerce
  
  I use CFMX 5.5 
  version of Able in my store.
  
  I have never used any 
  other cart, but every day I am impressed with its potential and 
  flexibility.
  
  The only thing that 
  it WILL NOT DO that I need it to do is:
  
  The products have a 
  one to one relationship with the vendor of the 
  product.
  We have many vendors 
  that sell the same product and this situation is not catered to from the 
  Purchasing agents perspective.
  There is a work 
  around by adding a Vendor_Products table into the DB, and using foreign keys 
  etc to make it work but that is something that needs doing that you may or 
  maynot need.
  
  Also:
  See web2market.com 
  for some addon features available for the CFMX 
  cart.
  
  
  Robert P. 
  Reil
  Managing 
  Director,
  Motorcyclecarbs.com, 
  Inc.
  4292 Country Garden Walk 
  NW
  Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
  Office 
  770-974-8851
  Fax 
  770-974-8852
  www.motorcyclecarbs.com
  
  
  
  
  From: Leon 
  Oosterwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:24 
  AMTo: 
  discussion@acfug.orgSubject: 
  RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able Commerce
  
  Paul,
  
  We run able 
  commerce here. (www.daveramsey.com/shop) I've not 
  used the .net (or jsp) versions but the cfmx works pretty well. we had some 
  thread safety issues early on but those seems to all be resolved now. One 
  thing to keep in mind is that the license you buy is tied to one and only one 
  domain name. so if your store is purchased for www.example.com, and people to do 
  example.com they will get a license error. 
  
  Leon
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Paul MortonSent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:05 
  AMTo: 
  discussion@acfug.orgSubject: 
  [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Able Commerce
  
  Iam interestedin 
  feedback on Able Commerce. I have a client that is very interested 
  in moving to that package, andwould welcome yourthoughtson 
  any support issues, performance, or implementation issues. 
  
  
  Any thoughts on the Dot Net 
  version vs. the CFMX version would also be helpful. 
  
  
  
  
  Paul 
  Morton 
  
  
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