[ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle
Im in fortas Construction book trying to set up a Record set as on page 89. Im trying to click Application, Bindings, to associate the database to the site in DW. All I get in any window in the Application sub tabs all have: To use dynamic data on this page: 1. Create a site for this file. (checked) 2. Choose a document type. (checked) 3. Set up the sitess testing server 4. Specify the RDS login information for ColdFusion server. 5. Create a Coldfusion data source. Looks like Im stuck on step 3. Clicking on the link in step 3 opens a Site Definition for (SiteName) dialogue box and wants me to fill our the TESTING SERVER information. That info as far as I can tell is correct. Server model: ColdFusion Access: Local/Network Testing server folder: W:\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\ (Our web path in IIS) Refresh remote list auto ON URL Prefix: http://localhost/intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ The URL Prefix is the location of the sites root folder on the testing server. I just changed it to http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ and now #3 checks as done But now I get another error: The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this sites testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running). (note: This is a CF server box) Do I have to tell CF to see this new IIS hosted site I made this AM? How where? Forta says I should be able to click the + sign on the bindings tab and have a GUI called RECORDSET pop up. Any ideas where to figure out whats going on? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle
Thinking further I opened CF Admin on the web server and got this error: Cannot find the file http://127.0.01/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are available. Checking the local path I do find in the wwwroot directory C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm Hmm... What gives now? FYI I also saw an error in DW with the same path name. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:48 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle Im in fortas Construction book trying to set up a Record set as on page 89. Im trying to click Application, Bindings, to associate the database to the site in DW. All I get in any window in the Application sub tabs all have: To use dynamic data on this page: 1. Create a site for this file. (checked) 2. Choose a document type. (checked) 3. Set up the sitess testing server 4. Specify the RDS login information for ColdFusion server. 5. Create a Coldfusion data source. Looks like Im stuck on step 3. Clicking on the link in step 3 opens a Site Definition for (SiteName) dialogue box and wants me to fill our the TESTING SERVER information. That info as far as I can tell is correct. Server model: ColdFusion Access: Local/Network Testing server folder: W:\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\ (Our web path in IIS) Refresh remote list auto ON URL Prefix: http://localhost/intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ The URL Prefix is the location of the sites root folder on the testing server. I just changed it to http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ and now #3 checks as done But now I get another error: The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this sites testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running). (note: This is a CF server box) Do I have to tell CF to see this new IIS hosted site I made this AM? How where? Forta says I should be able to click the + sign on the bindings tab and have a GUI called RECORDSET pop up. Any ideas where to figure out whats going on? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle
Weirder still: The Admin opened and I noticed that its address is: http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm So I dont know what that is all about... However DNS has been a bit slow in the past couple months, but we havent invested in repairing it as we are migrating to a new Win2K3 domain. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:06 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle Thinking further I opened CF Admin on the web server and got this error: Cannot find the file http://127.0.01/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are available. Checking the local path I do find in the wwwroot directory C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm Hmm... What gives now? FYI I also saw an error in DW with the same path name. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:48 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle Im in fortas Construction book trying to set up a Record set as on page 89. Im trying to click Application, Bindings, to associate the database to the site in DW. All I get in any window in the Application sub tabs all have: To use dynamic data on this page: 1. Create a site for this file. (checked) 2. Choose a document type. (checked) 3. Set up the sitess testing server 4. Specify the RDS login information for ColdFusion server. 5. Create a Coldfusion data source. Looks like Im stuck on step 3. Clicking on the link in step 3 opens a Site Definition for (SiteName) dialogue box and wants me to fill our the TESTING SERVER information. That info as far as I can tell is correct. Server model: ColdFusion Access: Local/Network Testing server folder: W:\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\ (Our web path in IIS) Refresh remote list auto ON URL Prefix: http://localhost/intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ The URL Prefix is the location of the sites root folder on the testing server. I just changed it to http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ and now #3 checks as done But now I get another error: The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this sites testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running). (note: This is a CF server box) Do I have to tell CF to see this new IIS hosted site I made this AM? How where? Forta says I should be able to click the + sign on the bindings tab and have a GUI called RECORDSET pop up. Any ideas where to figure out whats going on? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle
I am terminaled into the CF server. And I am using DW locally. The wwwroot directory is mapped as the W drive. The 127.0.01 was a typo I wanted to duplicate the error so I closed CF Admin in the terminal session and reopened it and now it does not error. Probably just a little slow I guess. Anyways if on the DW client and click Application, Databases, or Bindings etc it still is stuck on RDS login. And gives that error. The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running). (Note: This is a CF server box) Any ideas? I know CF works as I can browse our site www.motorcyclecarbs.com and see that it works. So I think #2 is not the problem. But I can browse http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ No problem as well. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:19 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle this on your local PC? No IIS? You are running CF on a different port than 80, probably 8500 or 8300. DK On 7/21/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking further I opened CF Admin on the web server and got this error: 'Cannot find the file 'http://127.0.01/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are available. Checking the local path I do find in the wwwroot directory C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm Hmm... What gives now? FYI I also saw an error in DW with the same path name. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Robert Reil [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:48 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle Im in fortas Construction book trying to set up a Record set as on page 89. Im trying to click Application, Bindings, to associate the database to the site in DW. All I get in any window in the Application sub tabs all have: To use dynamic data on this page: 1. Create a site for this file. (checked) 2. Choose a document type. (checked) 3. Set up the sites's testing server 4. Specify the RDS login information for ColdFusion server. 5. Create a Coldfusion data source. Looks like Im stuck on step 3. Clicking on the link in step 3 opens a Site Definition for (SiteName) dialogue box and wants me to fill our the TESTING SERVER information. That info as far as I can tell is correct. Server model: ColdFusion Access: Local/Network Testing server folder: W:\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\ (Our web path in IIS) Refresh remote list auto ON URL Prefix: http://localhost/intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ The URL Prefix is the location of the site's root folder on the testing server. I just changed it to http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ and now #3 check's as done But now I get another error: The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running). (note: This is a CF server box) Do I have to tell CF to see this new IIS hosted site I made this AM? How where? Forta says I should be able to click the + sign on the bindings tab and have a GUI called RECORDSET pop up. Any ideas where to figure out whats going on? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle
Go into the CF admin and set the RDS password and make sure that feature is on...Security tab RDSOn 7/21/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am terminaled into the CF server. And I am using DW locally. The wwwroot directory is mapped as the W drive. The 127.0.01 was a typo' I wanted to duplicate the error so I closed CF Admin in the terminal session and reopened it and now it does not error. Probably just a little slow I guess. Anyways if on the DW client and click Application, Databases, or Bindings etc it still is stuck on RDS login. And gives that error. The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running). (Note: This is a CF server box) Any ideas? I know CF works as I can browse our site www.motorcyclecarbs.com and see that it works. So I think #2 is not the problem. But I can browse http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ No problem as well. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:19 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle this on your local PC? No IIS? You are running CF on a different port than 80, probably 8500 or 8300. DK On 7/21/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking further I opened CF Admin on the web server and got this error: 'Cannot find the file 'http://127.0.01/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm ' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are available. Checking the local path I do find in the wwwroot directory C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm Hmm... What gives now? FYI I also saw an error in DW with the same path name. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Robert Reil [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:48 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle Im in fortas Construction book trying to set up a Record set as on page 89. Im trying to click Application, Bindings, to associate the database to the site in DW. All I get in any window in the Application sub tabs all have: To use dynamic data on this page: 1. Create a site for this file. (checked) 2. Choose a document type. (checked) 3. Set up the sites's testing server 4. Specify the RDS login information for ColdFusion server. 5. Create a Coldfusion data source. Looks like Im stuck on step 3. Clicking on the link in step 3 opens a Site Definition for (SiteName) dialogue box and wants me to fill our the TESTING SERVER information. That info as far as I can tell is correct. Server model: ColdFusion Access: Local/Network Testing server folder: W:\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\ (Our web path in IIS) Refresh remote list auto ON URL Prefix: http://localhost/intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ The URL Prefix is the location of the site's root folder on the testing server. I just changed it to http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ and now #3 check's as done But now I get another error: The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running). (note: This is a CF server box) Do I have to tell CF to see this new IIS hosted site I made this AM? How where? Forta says I should be able to click the + sign on the bindings tab and have a GUI called RECORDSET pop up. Any ideas where to figure out whats going on? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle
Robert,I think we need to take a deep breathe here.127.0.0.1 is for local development. Local development can also be considered a testing server. A testing server is a generic term for any location you have a web server and application server installed. Now in more formal scenarios, a testing server will resemble what the production environment would be like. For large budget organizations, the testing server is an exact replica of the production box. Now for your error. Which web server are you running and which version of ColdFusion did you install?TeddyOn 7/21/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Weirder still: The Admin opened and I noticed that its address is: http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm So I don't know what that is all about... However DNS has been a bit slow in the past couple months, but we haven't invested in repairing it as we are migrating to a new Win2K3 domain. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Robert Reil [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:06 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle Thinking further I opened CF Admin on the web server and got this error: 'Cannot find the file 'http://127.0.01/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are available. Checking the local path I do find in the wwwroot directory "C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm" Hmm... What gives now? FYI I also saw an error in DW with the same path name. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Robert Reil [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:48 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle Im in fortas Construction book trying to set up a Record set as on page 89. Im trying to click Application, Bindings, to associate the database to the site in DW. All I get in any window in the Application sub tabs all have: "To use dynamic data on this page: 1. Create a site for this file. (checked) 2. Choose a document type. (checked) 3. Set up the sites's testing server 4. Specify the RDS login information for ColdFusion server. 5. Create a Coldfusion data source." Looks like Im stuck on step 3. Clicking on the link in step 3 opens a "Site Definition for (SiteName) dialogue box and wants me to fill our the TESTING SERVER information. That info as far as I can tell is correct. Server model: ColdFusion Access: Local/Network Testing server folder: W:\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\ (Our web path in IIS) Refresh remote list auto ON URL Prefix: http://localhost/intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ The URL Prefix is the location of the site's root folder on the testing server. I just changed it to http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ and now #3 check's as done But now I get another error: "The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running)." (note: This is a CF server box) Do I have to tell CF to see this new IIS hosted site I made this AM? How where? Forta says I should be able to click the + sign on the bindings tab and have a GUI called RECORDSET pop up. Any ideas where to figure out whats going on? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com -- cf_payne / - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle
I see that and it was unchecked. How will this affect the site? Will users have problems? I have to stop and start the CF service for this to work so I am awaiting a response on this before I commit. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Steven Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:12 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle Go into the CF admin and set the RDS password and make sure that feature is on... Security tab RDS On 7/21/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am terminaled into the CF server. And I am using DW locally. The wwwroot directory is mapped as the W drive. The 127.0.01 was a typo' I wanted to duplicate the error so I closed CF Admin in the terminal session and reopened it and now it does not error. Probably just a little slow I guess. Anyways if on the DW client and click Application, Databases, or Bindings etc it still is stuck on RDS login. And gives that error. The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running). (Note: This is a CF server box) Any ideas? I know CF works as I can browse our site www.motorcyclecarbs.com and see that it works. So I think #2 is not the problem. But I can browse http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ No problem as well. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:19 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle this on your local PC? No IIS? You are running CF on a different port than 80, probably 8500 or 8300. DK On 7/21/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking further I opened CF Admin on the web server and got this error: 'Cannot find the file 'http://127.0.01/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm ' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are available. Checking the local path I do find in the wwwroot directory C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm Hmm... What gives now? FYI I also saw an error in DW with the same path name. Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw , Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com From: Robert Reil [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:48 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle Im in fortas Construction book trying to set up a Record set as on page 89. Im trying to click Application, Bindings, to associate the database to the site in DW. All I get in any window in the Application sub tabs all have: To use dynamic data on this page: 1. Create a site for this file. (checked) 2. Choose a document type. (checked) 3. Set up the sites's testing server 4. Specify the RDS login information for ColdFusion server. 5. Create a Coldfusion data source. Looks like Im stuck on step 3. Clicking on the link in step 3 opens a Site Definition for (SiteName) dialogue box and wants me to fill our the TESTING SERVER information. That info as far as I can tell is correct. Server model: ColdFusion Access: Local/Network Testing server folder: W:\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\ (Our web path in IIS) Refresh remote list auto ON URL Prefix: http://localhost/intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ The URL Prefix is the location of the site's root folder on the testing server. I just changed it to http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ and now #3 check's as done But now I get another error: The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the page in my browser find with that path) Possible reasons: 1. The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect: http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/ 2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion may not be running). (note: This is a CF server box) Do I have to tell CF to see this new IIS hosted site I made this AM? How where? Forta says I should be able to click the + sign on the bindings tab and have a GUI called RECORDSET pop up. Any ideas where to figure out whats going on? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com