[ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Rudi Shumpert]

Hey folks,

We have a new dev starting out fresh in CF with a background in php.

Any suggestions on where to send the dev for some CF training here in the
ATL?

-Rudi

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[John Youngman]

Hi Rudi,

I've always found the best training to be a reference book and a small little 
project.
(That's how I did learned anyways)..

Does your dev have any previous web programming experience?

-John



From: Rudi Shumpert 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:34 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training


Hey folks,

We have a new dev starting out fresh in CF with a background in php.

Any suggestions on where to send the dev for some CF training here in the ATL?

-Rudi




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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[John Mason]

Echoeleven.com - they are an Adobe training center and a sponsor of the 
user group.


John




Rudi Shumpert wrote:

Hey folks,

We have a new dev starting out fresh in CF with a background in php.

Any suggestions on where to send the dev for some CF training here in 
the ATL?


-Rudi






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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[John Mason]

That's probably how most of us learn. I frankly I like to see people 
teach themselves. It shows determination and dedication. It can be 
painful though and you might learn some bad habits along the way. Bare 
in mind the books are gear to demo an operation and so they don't hit OO 
principles and code separation as much. Lots of bad habits can develop.


I taught myself Flash several years back (around version 3 and 4) but a 
couple years ago took some Adobe Flash classes. It was pretty amazing 
all the little things I was doing wrong or not in an efficient way. Self 
teaching is great but some classroom time should always be attached to it.


John
ma...@fusionlink.com




John Youngman wrote:

Hi Rudi,
 
I've always found the best training to be a reference book and a small 
little project.

(That's how I did learned anyways)..
 
Does your dev have any previous web programming experience?
 
-John
 


*From:* Rudi Shumpert <mailto:shump...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:34 PM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org <mailto:discussion@acfug.org>
*Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

Hey folks,

We have a new dev starting out fresh in CF with a background in php.

Any suggestions on where to send the dev for some CF training here in 
the ATL?


-Rudi


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[John Youngman]

oh yeah, I agree with that 100%..

I've never been to a company that would pay for the training lol, so I guess 
that’s the only way I know.


But I'm sure there's great value in good solid training classes.

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From: "John Mason" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:09 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

That's probably how most of us learn. I frankly I like to see people teach 
themselves. It shows determination and dedication. It can be painful 
though and you might learn some bad habits along the way. Bare in mind the 
books are gear to demo an operation and so they don't hit OO principles 
and code separation as much. Lots of bad habits can develop.


I taught myself Flash several years back (around version 3 and 4) but a 
couple years ago took some Adobe Flash classes. It was pretty amazing all 
the little things I was doing wrong or not in an efficient way. Self 
teaching is great but some classroom time should always be attached to it.


John
ma...@fusionlink.com




John Youngman wrote:

Hi Rudi,
 I've always found the best training to be a reference book and a small 
little project.

(That's how I did learned anyways)..
 Does your dev have any previous web programming experience?
 -John

*From:* Rudi Shumpert <mailto:shump...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:34 PM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org <mailto:discussion@acfug.org>
*Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

Hey folks,

We have a new dev starting out fresh in CF with a background in php.

Any suggestions on where to send the dev for some CF training here in the 
ATL?


-Rudi


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Teddy R. Payne]

Errata: "Have you sat down and asked him or her how they learned PHP?"

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Teddy R. Payne]

Rudi,
Well, your new developer should also join this mailing list.  Mailing lists
are good resources for asking questions to a group that is pretty
responsive.

Blogs, Forums, Mailing Lists, User Groups, Books, Conferences, and a
willingness to learn.  That is how you probably learn any language these
days.  Some of those items have a high monetary cost, but many times if you
get that "one" thing from anyone of those then the cost was justified.

How your developer learns is unique to the individual.  Have you sat down
and asked him or her learn PHP?

Translate their personal successes into a training plan to repeat the same
success.

ColdFusion has a certification program.  You can set this up as a 9-12 month
goal, as an example.


Teddy

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Rudi Shumpert]

The php was mostly self taught.

I myself had a solid ASP background and then took a class in CF years back
to get a crash course and it helped immensely.  Most of what I learned is
out of  books, following blogs, etc..  But I think there is great value in
some classroom time to get a good foundation.

I will look into the echoEleven classes.

Thanks for the insight folks!

-Rudi



On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Teddy R. Payne wrote:

> Errata: "Have you sat down and asked him or her how they learned PHP?"

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Teddy R. Payne]

Rudi,
Two of the ACFUG annual sponsors are training centers.  The training
centers, EchoEleven and FigLeaf, are quality training providers.

EchoEleven - http://www.echoeleven.com/

FigLeaf - http://www.figleaf.com/

I am sure that if you email either organization that they can provide you
with a schedule on their available Adobe ColdFusion training classes.


Teddy R. Payne, ACCFD
Google Talk - teddyrpa...@gmail.com



On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rudi Shumpert  wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> We have a new dev starting out fresh in CF with a background in php.
>
> Any suggestions on where to send the dev for some CF training here in the
> ATL?
>
> -Rudi
>
>
>

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[John Mason]

FigLeaf.com is also a sponsor and an Adobe training center and has 
classes as well. Just making sure I cover all the bases with this :)


John




Rudi Shumpert wrote:

The php was mostly self taught.

I myself had a solid ASP background and then took a class in CF years 
back to get a crash course and it helped immensely.  Most of what I 
learned is out of  books, following blogs, etc..  But I think there is 
great value in some classroom time to get a good foundation.


I will look into the echoEleven classes.

Thanks for the insight folks!

-Rudi


On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Teddy R. Payne > wrote:


Errata: "Have you sat down and asked him or her how they learned
PHP?" 







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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Teddy R. Payne]

*chuckle*  It's all good John.  I referenced them both early in this email
chain.



ACFUG has had great experiences with both organizations that we oftentimes
forget to mention how much we value each organization.

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Mary Spencer]

Dear mason:

 

I agree!

 

Mary Spencer
 
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:09:46 -0400
> From: ma...@fusionlink.com
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training
> 
> That's probably how most of us learn. I frankly I like to see people 
> teach themselves. It shows determination and dedication. It can be 
> painful though and you might learn some bad habits along the way. Bare 
> in mind the books are gear to demo an operation and so they don't hit OO 
> principles and code separation as much. Lots of bad habits can develop.
> 
> I taught myself Flash several years back (around version 3 and 4) but a 
> couple years ago took some Adobe Flash classes. It was pretty amazing 
> all the little things I was doing wrong or not in an efficient way. Self 
> teaching is great but some classroom time should always be attached to it.
> 
> John
> ma...@fusionlink.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Youngman wrote:
> > Hi Rudi,
> > 
> > I've always found the best training to be a reference book and a small 
> > little project.
> > (That's how I did learned anyways)..
> > 
> > Does your dev have any previous web programming experience?
> > 
> > -John
> > 
> >
> > *From:* Rudi Shumpert <mailto:shump...@gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:34 PM
> > *To:* discussion@acfug.org <mailto:discussion@acfug.org>
> > *Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training
> >
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > We have a new dev starting out fresh in CF with a background in php.
> >
> > Any suggestions on where to send the dev for some CF training here in 
> > the ATL?
> >
> > -Rudi
> >
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Mark Richards]

I sent a 3 of my developers to training at Sterling Ledet.  They're an Adobe
certified training center and my crew said that it was a good class with a
good instructor.

http://www.ledet.com/

Here are some other good online resources if you want them to learn on their
own as well:

http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=432
http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=433
http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=426
http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/

Hope this helps.

Mark Richards


On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Mary Spencer wrote:

>  Dear mason:
>
> I agree!
>
> Mary Spencer
>
> > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:09:46 -0400
> > From: ma...@fusionlink.com
> > To: discussion@acfug.org
> > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training
>
> >
> > That's probably how most of us learn. I frankly I like to see people
> > teach themselves. It shows determination and dedication. It can be
> > painful though and you might learn some bad habits along the way. Bare
> > in mind the books are gear to demo an operation and so they don't hit OO
> > principles and code separation as much. Lots of bad habits can develop.
> >
> > I taught myself Flash several years back (around version 3 and 4) but a
> > couple years ago took some Adobe Flash classes. It was pretty amazing
> > all the little things I was doing wrong or not in an efficient way. Self
> > teaching is great but some classroom time should always be attached to
> it.
> >
> > John
> > ma...@fusionlink.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Youngman wrote:
> > > Hi Rudi,
> > >
> > > I've always found the best training to be a reference book and a small
> > > little project.
> > > (That's how I did learned anyways)..
> > >
> > > Does your dev have any previous web programming experience?
> > >
> > > -John
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* Rudi Shumpert <mailto:shump...@gmail.com>
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:34 PM
> > > *To:* discussion@acfug.org <mailto:discussion@acfug.org>
> > > *Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training
> > >
> > > Hey folks,
> > >
> > > We have a new dev starting out fresh in CF with a background in php.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions on where to send the dev for some CF training here in
> > > the ATL?
> > >
> > > -Rudi
> > >
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Rudi Shumpert]

This is all great info!  Thanks again!

-Rudi



On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Mark Richards  wrote:

> I sent a 3 of my developers to training at Sterling Ledet.  They're an
> Adobe certified training center and my crew said that it was a good class
> with a good instructor.
>
> http://www.ledet.com/
>
> Here are some other good online resources if you want them to learn on
> their own as well:
>
> http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=432
> http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=433
> http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=426
> http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/
> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Mark Richards
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Mary Spencer 
> wrote:
>
>>  Dear mason:
>>
>> I agree!
>>
>> Mary Spencer
>>
>> > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:09:46 -0400
>> > From: ma...@fusionlink.com
>> > To: discussion@acfug.org
>> > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training
>>
>> >
>> > That's probably how most of us learn. I frankly I like to see people
>> > teach themselves. It shows determination and dedication. It can be
>> > painful though and you might learn some bad habits along the way. Bare
>> > in mind the books are gear to demo an operation and so they don't hit OO
>>
>> > principles and code separation as much. Lots of bad habits can develop.
>> >
>> > I taught myself Flash several years back (around version 3 and 4) but a
>> > couple years ago took some Adobe Flash classes. It was pretty amazing
>> > all the little things I was doing wrong or not in an efficient way. Self
>>
>> > teaching is great but some classroom time should always be attached to
>> it.
>> >
>> > John
>> > ma...@fusionlink.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > John Youngman wrote:
>> > > Hi Rudi,
>> > >
>> > > I've always found the best training to be a reference book and a small
>>
>> > > little project.
>> > > (That's how I did learned anyways)..
>> > >
>> > > Does your dev have any previous web programming experience?
>> > >
>> > > -John
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *From:* Rudi Shumpert <mailto:shump...@gmail.com>
>> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:34 PM
>> > > *To:* discussion@acfug.org <mailto:discussion@acfug.org>
>> > > *Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training
>> > >
>> > > Hey folks,
>> > >
>> > > We have a new dev starting out fresh in CF with a background in php.
>> > >
>> > > Any suggestions on where to send the dev for some CF training here in
>> > > the ATL?
>> > >
>> > > -Rudi
>> > >
>> > >
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Steve Drucker]

>From my perspective as the manager of an Adobe authorized training center,
course author, and certified instructor -

There are 3 principal benefits to taking an instructor-led training course:

1) It gets you out of the office so that you can actually FOCUS on learning
2) Vendor-authorized courseware focuses on specific functionality that is
CORE to the product as well as BEST-PRACTICES
3) Instructors from authorized training program usually have an insane
amount of expertise. For example, the least amount of practical experience
that any of Fig Leaf's ColdFusion instructors have is 10 years. This means
that they can articulate how information presented in the course maps to
your specific application requirements.

For anyone considering taking an instructor-led course, I strongly advise
the following:

1) When you get to the training center, turn off your cell phone and don't
check your email. Focus solely on learning.
2) Understand the project requirements that you've been assigned to work on.
Describe this project to your instructor and ask him/her about their
suggested approach and to specifically call out items in the class that
would specifically apply to this scenario.
3) Briefly review the product that you're being trained on before coming to
class. It's best not to walk into a class completely "cold"
4) Make sure you meet ALL the course pre-requisites.
5) Ask lots of questions during the class about practical applications of
the material. If you feel like there's something you don't quite understand,
ask the instructor to repeat the point, or come up with a different
illustrative example.
6) If there is a topic that you'd like to see covered that is not part of
the official courseware, ask the instructor if he/she can cover it
informally either during lunch or after normal course hours.

Instructors HATE quite classes. We want there to be an interactive
discussion of the points and like the challenge of answering student
questions.

And now...a brief plug:

Fig Leaf Software offers the most comprehensive ColdFusion curriculum of any
training partner. We wrote the official "Advanced ColdFusion" course under
contract to Adobe and have since released the following courses:

Administering ColdFusion 8 (The only hands-on, instructor-led CF admin
course available on the planet)
http://training.figleaf.com/Courses/Administering_ColdFusion.cfm

Moving to ColdFusion 8 (upgrading from a prior version of CF? This is your
class!)
http://training.figleaf.com/Courses/movingtocoldfusion8.cfm

Fast Track to AJAX with ColdFusion (the only CF-centric AJAX class available
anywhere - now includes jQuery!)
http://training.figleaf.com/Courses/ajax.cfm



On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rudi Shumpert  wrote:

> This is all great info!  Thanks again!
>
> -Rudi
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Mark Richards  wrote:
>
>> I sent a 3 of my developers to training at Sterling Ledet.  They're an
>> Adobe certified training center and my crew said that it was a good class
>> with a good instructor.
>>
>> http://www.ledet.com/
>>
>> Here are some other good online resources if you want them to learn on
>> their own as well:
>>
>> http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=432
>> http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=433
>> http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=426
>> http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/
>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Mark Richards
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Mary Spencer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Dear mason:
>>>
>>> I agree!
>>>
>>> Mary Spencer
>>>
>>> > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:09:46 -0400
>>> > From: ma...@fusionlink.com
>>> > To: discussion@acfug.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training
>>>
>>> >
>>> > That's probably how most of us learn. I frankly I like to see people
>>> > teach themselves. It shows determination and dedication. It can be
>>> > painful though and you might learn some bad habits along the way. Bare
>>> > in mind the books are gear to demo an operation and so they don't hit
>>> OO
>>> > principles and code separation as much. Lots of bad habits can develop.
>>> >
>>> > I taught myself Flash several years back (around version 3 and 4) but a
>>>
>>> > couple years ago took some Adobe Flash classes. It was pretty amazing
>>> > all the little things I was doing wrong or not in an efficient way.
>>> Self
>>> > teaching is great but some classroom time should always be attache

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Rudi Shumpert]

Thanks for all of the input.

We have opted to send the dev to the 3 day training at EchoEleven.  As well
as beginning to participate in groups like this, CFMeetup, and other online
resources.

-Rudi


On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Steve Drucker  wrote:

> From my perspective as the manager of an Adobe authorized training center,
> course author, and certified instructor -
>
> There are 3 principal benefits to taking an instructor-led training course:
>
> 1) It gets you out of the office so that you can actually FOCUS on learning
> 2) Vendor-authorized courseware focuses on specific functionality that is
> CORE to the product as well as BEST-PRACTICES
> 3) Instructors from authorized training program usually have an insane
> amount of expertise. For example, the least amount of practical experience
> that any of Fig Leaf's ColdFusion instructors have is 10 years. This means
> that they can articulate how information presented in the course maps to
> your specific application requirements.
>
> For anyone considering taking an instructor-led course, I strongly advise
> the following:
>
> 1) When you get to the training center, turn off your cell phone and don't
> check your email. Focus solely on learning.
> 2) Understand the project requirements that you've been assigned to work
> on. Describe this project to your instructor and ask him/her about their
> suggested approach and to specifically call out items in the class that
> would specifically apply to this scenario.
> 3) Briefly review the product that you're being trained on before coming to
> class. It's best not to walk into a class completely "cold"
> 4) Make sure you meet ALL the course pre-requisites.
> 5) Ask lots of questions during the class about practical applications of
> the material. If you feel like there's something you don't quite understand,
> ask the instructor to repeat the point, or come up with a different
> illustrative example.
> 6) If there is a topic that you'd like to see covered that is not part of
> the official courseware, ask the instructor if he/she can cover it
> informally either during lunch or after normal course hours.
>
> Instructors HATE quite classes. We want there to be an interactive
> discussion of the points and like the challenge of answering student
> questions.
>
> And now...a brief plug:
>
> Fig Leaf Software offers the most comprehensive ColdFusion curriculum of
> any training partner. We wrote the official "Advanced ColdFusion" course
> under contract to Adobe and have since released the following courses:
>
> Administering ColdFusion 8 (The only hands-on, instructor-led CF admin
> course available on the planet)
> http://training.figleaf.com/Courses/Administering_ColdFusion.cfm
>
> Moving to ColdFusion 8 (upgrading from a prior version of CF? This is your
> class!)
> http://training.figleaf.com/Courses/movingtocoldfusion8.cfm
>
> Fast Track to AJAX with ColdFusion (the only CF-centric AJAX class
> available anywhere - now includes jQuery!)
> http://training.figleaf.com/Courses/ajax.cfm
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rudi Shumpert  wrote:
>
>> This is all great info!  Thanks again!
>>
>> -Rudi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Mark Richards wrote:
>>
>>> I sent a 3 of my developers to training at Sterling Ledet.  They're an
>>> Adobe certified training center and my crew said that it was a good class
>>> with a good instructor.
>>>
>>> http://www.ledet.com/
>>>
>>> Here are some other good online resources if you want them to learn on
>>> their own as well:
>>>
>>> http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=432
>>> http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=433
>>> http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=426
>>> http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/
>>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Mark Richards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Mary Spencer >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Dear mason:
>>>>
>>>> I agree!
>>>>
>>>> Mary Spencer
>>>>
>>>> > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:09:46 -0400
>>>> > From: ma...@fusionlink.com
>>>> > To: discussion@acfug.org
>>>> > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > That's probably how most of us learn. I frankly I like to see people
>>>> >

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Howard Fore]

I've heard a rumor that one of the major CF training providers was close to
starting online classes as well. Not sure about the mechanics of that or the
cost but it would be a welcome addition to the CF community.

--
Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Steve Drucker]

It's not a rumor.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Howard Fore  wrote:

I've heard a rumor that one of the major CF training providers was  
close to starting online classes as well. Not sure about the  
mechanics of that or the cost but it would be a welcome addition to  
the CF community.


--
Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff  
Atwood

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Howard Fore]

Details?

--
Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood


On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Steve Drucker  wrote:

> It's not a rumor.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Howard Fore  wrote:
>
> I've heard a rumor that one of the major CF training providers was close to
> starting online classes as well. Not sure about the mechanics of that or the
> cost but it would be a welcome addition to the CF community.
>
> --
> Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com
> "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood
>
>

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Steve Drucker]

Monday

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Howard Fore  wrote:


Details?

--
Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff  
Atwood



On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Steve Drucker  
 wrote:

It's not a rumor.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Howard Fore  wrote:

I've heard a rumor that one of the major CF training providers was  
close to starting online classes as well. Not sure about the  
mechanics of that or the cost but it would be a welcome addition to  
the CF community.


--
Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff  
Atwood

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[John Mason]

Sounds cool, feel free to post info on it when it's open on monday.

John
ma...@fusionlink.com



Steve Drucker wrote:

Monday

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Howard Fore > wrote:



Details?

--
Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com 
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood


On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Steve Drucker > wrote:


It's not a rumor.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Howard Fore mailto:howard.f...@hofo.com>> wrote:


I've heard a rumor that one of the major CF training providers
was close to starting online classes as well. Not sure about the
mechanics of that or the cost but it would be a welcome addition
to the CF community.

--
Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com 
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff
Atwood







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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Intro CF Training

[Steve Drucker]

Couple announcements:

In the "better late than never" category, Fig Leaf has finally launched a
cf-centric blog at the following URL
http://blog.figleaf.com

Also, Fig Leaf is proud to announce that we will be offering our entire set
of instructor-led courses online. Instead of traveling to a classroom you
can now get virtually the same experience from the convenience of your home
or office. There's an FAQ available at the following URL:

http://training.figleaf.com/Locations/onlinefaq.cfm

The first class that we will be offering is our newly updated 3-day Fast
Track to AJAX with ColdFusion hands-on course from Jul 15 - Jul 17. Since
this is the first class that we're running online, we're offering it at 50%
off the listed retail price on a first-come, first-serve basis. Three days
of instructor-led AJAX training from the convenience of your home or office
for only $647.50!!! Registration is limited to 10 students.

You can get more information about this course at the following URL:

http://training.figleaf.com/Courses/ajax.cfm

Regards,
Steve Drucker
CEO
Fig Leaf Software
www.figleaf.com
training.figleaf.com



On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:32 PM, John Mason  wrote:

> Sounds cool, feel free to post info on it when it's open on monday.
>
> John
> ma...@fusionlink.com
>
>
>
> Steve Drucker wrote:
>
>> Monday
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Howard Fore > howard.f...@hofo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>  Details?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com 
>>> "The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff Atwood
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Steve Drucker >> sdruc...@figleaf.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>It's not a rumor.
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Howard Fore >>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've heard a rumor that one of the major CF training providers
was close to starting online classes as well. Not sure about the
mechanics of that or the cost but it would be a welcome addition
to the CF community.

--
Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com 
"The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it." - Jeff
Atwood


>>>
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