Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-02-28 Thread Douglas Knudsen 

Although we do not use such a beast yet, I would take a look at Trac.
http://trac.edgewall.org/

DK

On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,
We are a ColdFusion shop with SQL Server as backend. I have
implemented Subversion here and so far its been good. During the initial
search for version control tools offered in the market, I came across Seapine's
SCM  & other products offered by them.
Has anyone implemented a complete suite of tools for handling everything in
ColdFusion projects lifecycle from start to finish ie Configuration
Management to Versioning to Testing?

I was thinking more on the lines of Software Configuration Management & QA
Wizard which are offered by Seapine. Anybody with experience with these
tools? I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very
natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools, atleast for
now.

Before I forget, we use Dreamweaver a lot and I use both DW & Eclipse.

Thanks,

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-02-28 Thread Justin Haygood 
We here at EyeWonder use Subversion/Trac to host all of our source code.
Seems to be working well for the most part, as it provides wiki, bug
tracking, source browsing, and changeset viewing all in one.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:15 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? -
Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

 

Although we do not use such a beast yet, I would take a look at Trac.  
http://trac.edgewall.org/

DK

On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
We are a ColdFusion shop with SQL Server as backend. I have implemented
Subversion here and so far its been good. During the initial search for
version control tools offered in the market, I came across Seapine's SCM
<http://seapine.com/products.html>  & other products offered by them. Has
anyone implemented a complete suite of tools for handling everything in
ColdFusion projects lifecycle from start to finish ie Configuration
Management to Versioning to Testing? 

I was thinking more on the lines of Software Configuration Management & QA
Wizard which are offered by Seapine. Anybody with experience with these
tools? I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very
natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools, atleast for
now. 

Before I forget, we use Dreamweaver a lot and I use both DW & Eclipse.

Thanks, 

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-02-28 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

1)Does trac provide an interface wherein client can access the Trac link/url
online for our web prodcut lets say www.xyz.com and  allow them to add
bug/issues? or  enter a description or steps to recreate the bug? I read
this feature somewhere. I think its in Seapines Confg Mang System.

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On 2/28/07, Justin Haygood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 We here at EyeWonder use Subversion/Trac to host all of our source code.
Seems to be working well for the most part, as it provides wiki, bug
tracking, source browsing, and changeset viewing all in one.


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Although we do not use such a beast yet, I would take a look at Trac.
http://trac.edgewall.org/

DK

On 2/28/07, *Ajas Mohammed* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
We are a ColdFusion shop with SQL Server as backend. I have
implemented Subversion here and so far its been good. During the initial
search for version control tools offered in the market, I came across Seapine's
SCM <http://seapine.com/products.html> & other products offered by them.
Has anyone implemented a complete suite of tools for handling everything in
ColdFusion projects lifecycle from start to finish ie Configuration
Management to Versioning to Testing?

I was thinking more on the lines of Software Configuration Management & QA
Wizard which are offered by Seapine. Anybody with experience with these
tools? I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very
natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools, atleast for
now.

Before I forget, we use Dreamweaver a lot and I use both DW & Eclipse.

Thanks,

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-02-28 Thread Justin Haygood 
Yes, we use that here. It doesn't provide authentication, it relies on the
server to use HTTP authorization.

 

http://devserv04/trac/newticket?component=AdWonder%20Flash%20Component&milest
one=AdWonder%209.0

 

The links look something like that.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:42 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? -
Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

 

1)Does trac provide an interface wherein client can access the Trac link/url
online for our web prodcut lets say www.xyz.com and  allow them to add
bug/issues? or  enter a description or steps to recreate the bug? I read this
feature somewhere. I think its in Seapines Confg Mang System. 

Thanks,
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On 2/28/07, Justin Haygood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

We here at EyeWonder use Subversion/Trac to host all of our source code.
Seems to be working well for the most part, as it provides wiki, bug
tracking, source browsing, and changeset viewing all in one.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:15 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? -
Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

 

Although we do not use such a beast yet, I would take a look at Trac.  
http://trac.edgewall.org/

DK

On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
We are a ColdFusion shop with SQL Server as backend. I have implemented
Subversion here and so far its been good. During the initial search for
version control tools offered in the market, I came across Seapine's SCM
<http://seapine.com/products.html>  & other products offered by them. Has
anyone implemented a complete suite of tools for handling everything in
ColdFusion projects lifecycle from start to finish ie Configuration
Management to Versioning to Testing? 

I was thinking more on the lines of Software Configuration Management & QA
Wizard which are offered by Seapine. Anybody with experience with these
tools? I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very
natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools, atleast for
now. 

Before I forget, we use Dreamweaver a lot and I use both DW & Eclipse.

Thanks, 

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Kenney 


I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very natural
way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools, atleast for now.



If it is unit testing you are interested in, there really isn't any way to
write your tests in a GUI fashion. Tests are code, and you have to write
them just like you have to write your application code. The only visual
aspect of unit tests right now would be the test runner application that
reports results back to you once you run the tests. I'm pretty sure this
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-02-28 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

Justin, I looked at the link you sent and it reminded me of Bugzilla. So now
the question boils down to
Bugzilla vs Trac ?
1)which one would you prefer and why?
2) benefits
3)support for Subversion? i read bugzilla needs another component to
interact with Subversion

Plz share your experience if you have seen both of them working...

Thanks. This thread is getting interesting.



On 2/28/07, Paul Kenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very natural
> way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools, atleast for now.
>

If it is unit testing you are interested in, there really isn't any way to
write your tests in a GUI fashion. Tests are code, and you have to write
them just like you have to write your application code. The only visual
aspect of unit tests right now would be the test runner application that
reports results back to you once you run the tests. I'm pretty sure this
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-02-28 Thread Justin Haygood 
1.  Trac - easier installation. Basically take Bugzilla, Mediawiki, LXR,
and throw it into one tool
2.  It's small & lightweight. Our devserv is about as low end as you can
get and it brushes it off.
3.  Native Subversion integration

 

Trac also runs on Windows/IIS, which Bugzilla doesn't support as well.
However, Trac and Subversion both work amazingly well on a Linux/Apache
distro.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:17 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? -
Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

 

Justin, I looked at the link you sent and it reminded me of Bugzilla. So now
the question boils down to 
Bugzilla vs Trac ? 
1)which one would you prefer and why?
2) benefits
3)support for Subversion? i read bugzilla needs another component to interact
with Subversion 

Plz share your experience if you have seen both of them working...

Thanks. This thread is getting interesting.




On 2/28/07, Paul Kenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very
natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools, atleast for
now. 


If it is unit testing you are interested in, there really isn't any way to
write your tests in a GUI fashion. Tests are code, and you have to write them
just like you have to write your application code. The only visual aspect of
unit tests right now would be the test runner application that reports
results back to you once you run the tests. I'm pretty sure this isn't what
you wanted to hear, but sorry, that's just the way it is. 

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-02-28 Thread Steven Ross 

The only downside to trac is that it doesn't have the detail that
bugzilla does. There is also the annoyance of not being able to "pick"
a user from a dropdown. In trac you just enter their name... at least
that is the way the demo is on their site. I haven't used trac but, I
like the hooks into SVN. Course you can do that with bugzilla too, its
just hard to setup.

On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Justin, I looked at the link you sent and it reminded me of Bugzilla. So now
the question boils down to
Bugzilla vs Trac ?
1)which one would you prefer and why?
2) benefits
3)support for Subversion? i read bugzilla needs another component to
interact with Subversion

Plz share your experience if you have seen both of them working...

Thanks. This thread is getting interesting.




On 2/28/07, Paul Kenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very
natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools, atleast for
now.
> >
>
> If it is unit testing you are interested in, there really isn't any way to
write your tests in a GUI fashion. Tests are code, and you have to write
them just like you have to write your application code. The only visual
aspect of unit tests right now would be the test runner application that
reports results back to you once you run the tests. I'm pretty sure this
isn't what you wanted to hear, but sorry, that's just the way it is.
>
> --
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-01 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

Hi,
   Can anyone clarify what Steven pointed out about not being able to
"pick" a user from dropdown in demo on their site? Does it work in regular
version of trac?

So far, looking at the responses ppl seem to be very happy using Trac since
it integrates directly with Subversion. I decided I would give
ratings/points to Trac/Bugzilla, so anyone who reads this thread can decide
which route to take.

So far I think Trac (6) & Bugzilla(4) and rating is 1-10 , 10 being
highest.  If anyone has experience using these tools then please share your
experience with Trac/Bugzilla.

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.

On 2/28/07, Steven Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The only downside to trac is that it doesn't have the detail that
bugzilla does. There is also the annoyance of not being able to "pick"
a user from a dropdown. In trac you just enter their name... at least
that is the way the demo is on their site. I haven't used trac but, I
like the hooks into SVN. Course you can do that with bugzilla too, its
just hard to setup.

On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Justin, I looked at the link you sent and it reminded me of Bugzilla. So
now
> the question boils down to
> Bugzilla vs Trac ?
> 1)which one would you prefer and why?
> 2) benefits
> 3)support for Subversion? i read bugzilla needs another component to
> interact with Subversion
>
> Plz share your experience if you have seen both of them working...
>
> Thanks. This thread is getting interesting.
>
>
>
>
> On 2/28/07, Paul Kenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very
> natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools, atleast
for
> now.
> > >
> >
> > If it is unit testing you are interested in, there really isn't any
way to
> write your tests in a GUI fashion. Tests are code, and you have to write
> them just like you have to write your application code. The only visual
> aspect of unit tests right now would be the test runner application that
> reports results back to you once you run the tests. I'm pretty sure this
> isn't what you wanted to hear, but sorry, that's just the way it is.
> >
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-01 Thread Teddy Payne 

Ajas,
The drop down for Trac when referring to users is one complaint that it
would be nice to choose who assign tickets to, but on the opposite side or
people who can take action on bugs, they can assign themselves to the
ticket.

Regardless if 10 people swear that Trac is better than Bugzilla, I would
recommend that you try both on your own and make your own informative
decision.

Advice is just advice and your personal preference for your development
needs will be the final choice.

Just avoid the pitfall of saying that you do not have time to test
applications.  You are telling yourself at that point that you do not have
time to find the best way to make yourself more productive.

Teddy


On 3/1/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,
Can anyone clarify what Steven pointed out about not being able to
"pick" a user from dropdown in demo on their site? Does it work in regular
version of trac?

So far, looking at the responses ppl seem to be very happy using Trac
since it integrates directly with Subversion. I decided I would give
ratings/points to Trac/Bugzilla, so anyone who reads this thread can decide
which route to take.

So far I think Trac (6) & Bugzilla(4) and rating is 1-10 , 10 being
highest.  If anyone has experience using these tools then please share your
experience with Trac/Bugzilla.

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.

On 2/28/07, Steven Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The only downside to trac is that it doesn't have the detail that
> bugzilla does. There is also the annoyance of not being able to "pick"
> a user from a dropdown. In trac you just enter their name... at least
> that is the way the demo is on their site. I haven't used trac but, I
> like the hooks into SVN. Course you can do that with bugzilla too, its
> just hard to setup.
>
> On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Justin, I looked at the link you sent and it reminded me of Bugzilla.
> So now
> > the question boils down to
> > Bugzilla vs Trac ?
> > 1)which one would you prefer and why?
> > 2) benefits
> > 3)support for Subversion? i read bugzilla needs another component to
> > interact with Subversion
> >
> > Plz share your experience if you have seen both of them working...
> >
> > Thanks. This thread is getting interesting.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/28/07, Paul Kenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very
>
> > natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools,
> atleast for
> > now.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If it is unit testing you are interested in, there really isn't any
> way to
> > write your tests in a GUI fashion. Tests are code, and you have to
> write
> > them just like you have to write your application code. The only
> visual
> > aspect of unit tests right now would be the test runner application
> that
> > reports results back to you once you run the tests. I'm pretty sure
> this
> > isn't what you wanted to hear, but sorry, that's just the way it is.
> > >
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-01 Thread Justin Haygood 
Regarding being able to pick a user from a dropdown, yes, you just enter
their name. However, each "component" you specify has a default owner,
which we use here. Bugzilla also does the same thing actually. You don't
want a project with a thousand authors (read: the type of projects both
software was designed for) to have each author listed in the drop down,
eh?

Trac is also fairly customizeable via its trac-admin program, and has
useful features:

Milestones (useful for long term projects)
Versions (useful if you one Trac install per project. We don't, so we
turn this off)
Components (For components of a single project. If you're like us, then
we replace 'components' with products)
Ticket Priorities, which are customizeable. For instance, we replaced
critical with 'burning' ;)

Each subsection can be disabled if you so desire. Plus, its actually
fairly fast, since its written in python and we use it in Apache 2.2
(whatever comes with OpenSUSE 10.2) via mod_python.

--Justin Haygood

On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 09:40 -0500, Ajas Mohammed wrote:
> Hi,
> Can anyone clarify what Steven pointed out about not being able to
> "pick" a user from dropdown in demo on their site? Does it work in
> regular version of trac? 
> 
> So far, looking at the responses ppl seem to be very happy using Trac
> since it integrates directly with Subversion. I decided I would give
> ratings/points to Trac/Bugzilla, so anyone who reads this thread can
> decide which route to take. 
> 
> So far I think Trac (6) & Bugzilla(4) and rating is 1-10 , 10 being
> highest.  If anyone has experience using these tools then please share
> your experience with Trac/Bugzilla.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ajas Mohammed. 
> 
> On 2/28/07, Steven Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only downside to trac is that it doesn't have the detail
> that
> bugzilla does. There is also the annoyance of not being able
> to "pick"
> a user from a dropdown. In trac you just enter their name...
> at least 
> that is the way the demo is on their site. I haven't used trac
> but, I
> like the hooks into SVN. Course you can do that with bugzilla
> too, its
> just hard to setup.
> 
> On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Justin, I looked at the link you sent and it reminded me of
> Bugzilla. So now
> > the question boils down to
> > Bugzilla vs Trac ?
> > 1)which one would you prefer and why? 
> > 2) benefits
> > 3)support for Subversion? i read bugzilla needs another
> component to
> > interact with Subversion
> >
> > Plz share your experience if you have seen both of them
> working...
> > 
> > Thanks. This thread is getting interesting.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/28/07, Paul Kenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt
> look very 
> > natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI
> tools, atleast for
> > now.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If it is unit testing you are interested in, there really
> isn't any way to 
> > write your tests in a GUI fashion. Tests are code, and you
> have to write
> > them just like you have to write your application code. The
> only visual
> > aspect of unit tests right now would be the test runner
> application that 
> > reports results back to you once you run the tests. I'm
> pretty sure this
> > isn't what you wanted to hear, but sorry, that's just the
> way it is.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Kenney 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.pjk.us
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-07 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

Hi,
I finally installed Bugzilla on my home notebook last night. My setup
was Winxp with IIS. I made one small mistake and I wasnt able to see the
start page for bugzilla. I will let you know the mistake later. I Fixed that
mistake in lunch hrs and it works fine now. Havent played with it yet. I
will post my experience later.

By the way, if i have multiple projects/web sites lets say A, B, C, can I
customize bugzilla so that I have 3 different ticketing/faq/bugtracking
systems independent of each other? Is it doable? if yes, then how is it
done? Can anyone share there experience.

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.

On 3/1/07, Justin Haygood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Regarding being able to pick a user from a dropdown, yes, you just enter
their name. However, each "component" you specify has a default owner,
which we use here. Bugzilla also does the same thing actually. You don't
want a project with a thousand authors (read: the type of projects both
software was designed for) to have each author listed in the drop down,
eh?

Trac is also fairly customizeable via its trac-admin program, and has
useful features:

Milestones (useful for long term projects)
Versions (useful if you one Trac install per project. We don't, so we
turn this off)
Components (For components of a single project. If you're like us, then
we replace 'components' with products)
Ticket Priorities, which are customizeable. For instance, we replaced
critical with 'burning' ;)

Each subsection can be disabled if you so desire. Plus, its actually
fairly fast, since its written in python and we use it in Apache 2.2
(whatever comes with OpenSUSE 10.2) via mod_python.

--Justin Haygood

On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 09:40 -0500, Ajas Mohammed wrote:
> Hi,
> Can anyone clarify what Steven pointed out about not being able to
> "pick" a user from dropdown in demo on their site? Does it work in
> regular version of trac?
>
> So far, looking at the responses ppl seem to be very happy using Trac
> since it integrates directly with Subversion. I decided I would give
> ratings/points to Trac/Bugzilla, so anyone who reads this thread can
> decide which route to take.
>
> So far I think Trac (6) & Bugzilla(4) and rating is 1-10 , 10 being
> highest.  If anyone has experience using these tools then please share
> your experience with Trac/Bugzilla.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ajas Mohammed.
>
> On 2/28/07, Steven Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only downside to trac is that it doesn't have the detail
> that
> bugzilla does. There is also the annoyance of not being able
> to "pick"
> a user from a dropdown. In trac you just enter their name...
> at least
> that is the way the demo is on their site. I haven't used trac
> but, I
> like the hooks into SVN. Course you can do that with bugzilla
> too, its
> just hard to setup.
>
> On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Justin, I looked at the link you sent and it reminded me of
> Bugzilla. So now
> > the question boils down to
> > Bugzilla vs Trac ?
> > 1)which one would you prefer and why?
> > 2) benefits
> > 3)support for Subversion? i read bugzilla needs another
> component to
> > interact with Subversion
> >
> > Plz share your experience if you have seen both of them
> working...
> >
> > Thanks. This thread is getting interesting.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/28/07, Paul Kenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt
> look very
> > natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI
> tools, atleast for
> > now.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If it is unit testing you are interested in, there really
> isn't any way to
> > write your tests in a GUI fashion. Tests are code, and you
> have to write
> > them just like you have to write your application code. The
> only visual
> > aspect of unit tests right now would be the test runner
> application that
> > reports results back to you once you run the tests. I'm
> pretty sure this
> > isn't what you wanted to hear, but sorry, that's just the
> way it is.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Kenney
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.pjk.us
> > >
> > >
> >
> -
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> > > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform
> > >
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> > > Archive @
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/
> > > List hosted by FusionLi

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-08 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

Sorry guys,  I didnt realise somehow we had 2 threads running parallel for
this topic. So here is my question again

1) Whenever I login to Bugzilla, if i dont do any activity for sometime, and
try to open bugzilla open by doing refresh, I get this error :
CGI ErrorThe specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a
complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:

Any one seen this error before?

2) as per my last email which was in diff thread in response to Roberts
email about having multiple instances of bugzilla.I was wondering if
thats the case but I dont think it will be like that... it would be nice
if someone who has used bugzilla for multiple projects can clarify this
point..I think it will be a pain to have seperate installs of bugzilla for
each project... what abt Trac for the similar situation? does it support
multiple projects?

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.


On 3/7/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,
 I finally installed Bugzilla on my home notebook last night. My setup
was Winxp with IIS. I made one small mistake and I wasnt able to see the
start page for bugzilla. I will let you know the mistake later. I Fixed that
mistake in lunch hrs and it works fine now. Havent played with it yet. I
will post my experience later.

By the way, if i have multiple projects/web sites lets say A, B, C, can I
customize bugzilla so that I have 3 different ticketing/faq/bugtracking
systems independent of each other? Is it doable? if yes, then how is it
done? Can anyone share there experience.

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.

On 3/1/07, Justin Haygood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Regarding being able to pick a user from a dropdown, yes, you just enter
> their name. However, each "component" you specify has a default owner,
> which we use here. Bugzilla also does the same thing actually. You don't
> want a project with a thousand authors (read: the type of projects both
> software was designed for) to have each author listed in the drop down,
> eh?
>
> Trac is also fairly customizeable via its trac-admin program, and has
> useful features:
>
> Milestones (useful for long term projects)
> Versions (useful if you one Trac install per project. We don't, so we
> turn this off)
> Components (For components of a single project. If you're like us, then
> we replace 'components' with products)
> Ticket Priorities, which are customizeable. For instance, we replaced
> critical with 'burning' ;)
>
> Each subsection can be disabled if you so desire. Plus, its actually
> fairly fast, since its written in python and we use it in Apache 2.2
> (whatever comes with OpenSUSE 10.2) via mod_python.
>
> --Justin Haygood
>
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 09:40 -0500, Ajas Mohammed wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Can anyone clarify what Steven pointed out about not being able to
> > "pick" a user from dropdown in demo on their site? Does it work in
> > regular version of trac?
> >
> > So far, looking at the responses ppl seem to be very happy using Trac
> > since it integrates directly with Subversion. I decided I would give
> > ratings/points to Trac/Bugzilla, so anyone who reads this thread can
> > decide which route to take.
> >
> > So far I think Trac (6) & Bugzilla(4) and rating is 1-10 , 10 being
> > highest.  If anyone has experience using these tools then please share
> > your experience with Trac/Bugzilla.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ajas Mohammed.
> >
> > On 2/28/07, Steven Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The only downside to trac is that it doesn't have the detail
> > that
> > bugzilla does. There is also the annoyance of not being able
> > to "pick"
> > a user from a dropdown. In trac you just enter their name...
> > at least
> > that is the way the demo is on their site. I haven't used trac
> > but, I
> > like the hooks into SVN. Course you can do that with bugzilla
> > too, its
> > just hard to setup.
> >
> > On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Justin, I looked at the link you sent and it reminded me of
> > Bugzilla. So now
> > > the question boils down to
> > > Bugzilla vs Trac ?
> > > 1)which one would you prefer and why?
> > > 2) benefits
> > > 3)support for Subversion? i read bugzilla needs another
> > component to
> > > interact with Subversion
> > >
> > > Plz share your experience if you have seen both of them
> > working...
> > >
> > > Thanks. This thread is getting interesting.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/28/07, Paul Kenney < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have seen cfcunit & cfunit but at this point it doesnt
> > look very
> > > natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI
> > tools, atleast for
> > > now.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-09 Thread Teddy Payne 

Ajas,
I would recommend reading the FAQ for each project and use the forums from
each project to assist in troubleshooting some of your installation issues.

As for your question about the Trac multiple project aspect, here is a link
from the Trac FAQ that should answer your question:

http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFaq#can-i-manage-multiple-projects-from-a-single-installation-of-trac

If you like Bugzilla, Trac has the ability to import Bugzilla projects into
Trac:

http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFaq#can-i-migrate-my-bugs-from-bugzilla

If you read the documentation for the most recent Bugzilla version, you will
find this:

http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/3.0/html/x834.html

So in short, I would read the projects documentation and support for your
common answers and possibly ask the group on more specific questions or best
practices they have used in the past.

Teddy

On 3/9/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sorry guys,  I didnt realise somehow we had 2 threads running parallel for
this topic. So here is my question again

1) Whenever I login to Bugzilla, if i dont do any activity for sometime,
and try to open bugzilla open by doing refresh, I get this error :
CGI ErrorThe specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a
complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:

Any one seen this error before?

2) as per my last email which was in diff thread in response to Roberts
email about having multiple instances of bugzilla.I was wondering if
thats the case but I dont think it will be like that... it would be nice
if someone who has used bugzilla for multiple projects can clarify this
point..I think it will be a pain to have seperate installs of bugzilla for
each project... what abt Trac for the similar situation? does it support
multiple projects?

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.


On 3/7/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  I finally installed Bugzilla on my home notebook last night. My
> setup was Winxp with IIS. I made one small mistake and I wasnt able to see
> the start page for bugzilla. I will let you know the mistake later. I Fixed
> that mistake in lunch hrs and it works fine now. Havent played with it yet.
> I will post my experience later.
>
> By the way, if i have multiple projects/web sites lets say A, B, C, can
> I customize bugzilla so that I have 3 different ticketing/faq/bugtracking
> systems independent of each other? Is it doable? if yes, then how is it
> done? Can anyone share there experience.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ajas Mohammed.
>
> On 3/1/07, Justin Haygood < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Regarding being able to pick a user from a dropdown, yes, you just
> > enter
> > their name. However, each "component" you specify has a default owner,
> >
> > which we use here. Bugzilla also does the same thing actually. You
> > don't
> > want a project with a thousand authors (read: the type of projects
> > both
> > software was designed for) to have each author listed in the drop
> > down,
> > eh?
> >
> > Trac is also fairly customizeable via its trac-admin program, and has
> > useful features:
> >
> > Milestones (useful for long term projects)
> > Versions (useful if you one Trac install per project. We don't, so we
> > turn this off)
> > Components (For components of a single project. If you're like us,
> > then
> > we replace 'components' with products)
> > Ticket Priorities, which are customizeable. For instance, we replaced
> > critical with 'burning' ;)
> >
> > Each subsection can be disabled if you so desire. Plus, its actually
> > fairly fast, since its written in python and we use it in Apache 2.2
> > (whatever comes with OpenSUSE 10.2 ) via mod_python.
> >
> > --Justin Haygood
> >
> > On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 09:40 -0500, Ajas Mohammed wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Can anyone clarify what Steven pointed out about not being able
> > to
> > > "pick" a user from dropdown in demo on their site? Does it work in
> > > regular version of trac?
> > >
> > > So far, looking at the responses ppl seem to be very happy using
> > Trac
> > > since it integrates directly with Subversion. I decided I would give
> > > ratings/points to Trac/Bugzilla, so anyone who reads this thread can
> >
> > > decide which route to take.
> > >
> > > So far I think Trac (6) & Bugzilla(4) and rating is 1-10 , 10 being
> > > highest.  If anyone has experience using these tools then please
> > share
> > > your experience with Trac/Bugzilla.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Ajas Mohammed.
> > >
> > > On 2/28/07, Steven Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > The only downside to trac is that it doesn't have the detail
> >
> > > that
> > > bugzilla does. There is also the annoyance of not being able
> > > to "pick"
> > > a user from a dropdown. In trac you just enter their name...
> > > at least
> > > that is the way the demo is on their site. I haven't used
> > trac
> > > but, I
> > > like the hooks into

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-09 Thread Charlie Arehart 
This is getting quite off-topic (for the CF list). Should it move over to
the acfug community list? (And Ajas, perhaps you may also get better results
on a bugzilla list, too.)
 
/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/  

 


  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:23 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? -
Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing


Sorry guys,  I didnt realise somehow we had 2 threads running parallel for
this topic. So here is my question again

1) Whenever I login to Bugzilla, if i dont do any activity for sometime, and
try to open bugzilla open by doing refresh, I get this error : 


CGI Error

The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of
HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:

Any one seen this error before?

2) as per my last email which was in diff thread in response to Roberts
email about having multiple instances of bugzilla.I was wondering if
thats the case but I dont think it will be like that... it would be nice
if someone who has used bugzilla for multiple projects can clarify this
point..I think it will be a pain to have seperate installs of bugzilla for
each project... what abt Trac for the similar situation? does it support
multiple projects? 

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-09 Thread Teddy Payne 

I agree Charlie.  Any future threads on this would be a good candidate for
community list.

Teddy

On 3/9/07, Charlie Arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 This is getting quite off-topic (for the CF list). Should it move over to
the acfug community list? (And Ajas, perhaps you may also get better results
on a bugzilla list, too.)

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/



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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ajas
Mohammed
*Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2007 12:23 AM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? -
Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

Sorry guys,  I didnt realise somehow we had 2 threads running parallel for
this topic. So here is my question again

1) Whenever I login to Bugzilla, if i dont do any activity for sometime,
and try to open bugzilla open by doing refresh, I get this error :
CGI ErrorThe specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a
complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:

Any one seen this error before?

2) as per my last email which was in diff thread in response to Roberts
email about having multiple instances of bugzilla.I was wondering if
thats the case but I dont think it will be like that... it would be nice
if someone who has used bugzilla for multiple projects can clarify this
point..I think it will be a pain to have seperate installs of bugzilla for
each project... what abt Trac for the similar situation? does it support
multiple projects?

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.

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Google Talk - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-09 Thread Ajas Mohammed 

Thanks Teddy. Thats exactly what I had needed. Those links will save me lot
of time.

Ajas.

On 3/9/07, Teddy Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I agree Charlie.  Any future threads on this would be a good candidate for
community list.

Teddy

On 3/9/07, Charlie Arehart < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  This is getting quite off-topic (for the CF list). Should it move over
> to the acfug community list? (And Ajas, perhaps you may also get better
> results on a bugzilla list, too.)
>
> /Charlie
> http://www.carehart.org/blog/
>
>
>
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> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ajas
> Mohammed
> *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2007 12:23 AM
> *To:* discussion@acfug.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? -
> Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing
>
> Sorry guys,  I didnt realise somehow we had 2 threads running parallel
> for this topic. So here is my question again
>
> 1) Whenever I login to Bugzilla, if i dont do any activity for sometime,
> and try to open bugzilla open by doing refresh, I get this error :
> CGI ErrorThe specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a
> complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:
>
> Any one seen this error before?
>
> 2) as per my last email which was in diff thread in response to Roberts
> email about having multiple instances of bugzilla.I was wondering if
> thats the case but I dont think it will be like that... it would be nice
> if someone who has used bugzilla for multiple projects can clarify this
> point..I think it will be a pain to have seperate installs of bugzilla for
> each project... what abt Trac for the similar situation? does it support
> multiple projects?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ajas Mohammed.
>
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-12 Thread Justin Haygood 
Trac supports multiple "projects" when running inside Apache:

 

1.  Using trac-admin, create a different instance of each project (an
instance is just data)
2.  Set up one of these for each project:

 



SetHandler mod_python

PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend

PythonOption TracEnv /srv/trac/project1

PythonOption TracUriRoot /trac/project1







SetHandler mod_python

PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend

PythonOption TracEnv /srv/trac/project2

PythonOption TracUriRoot /trac/project2



 

Trac will be available at http://server/trac/project1 for project1 and
http://server/trac/project2 for project2, both using the same physical
installation, but different data.

 

TracEnv is the "instance" environment to use, TracUriRoot should match
Location, and PythonHandler tells Python to use Trac, and SetHandler tells
Apache to use mod_python.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:23 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? -
Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

 

Sorry guys,  I didnt realise somehow we had 2 threads running parallel for
this topic. So here is my question again

1) Whenever I login to Bugzilla, if i dont do any activity for sometime, and
try to open bugzilla open by doing refresh, I get this error : 


CGI Error


The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of
HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:

Any one seen this error before?

2) as per my last email which was in diff thread in response to Roberts email
about having multiple instances of bugzilla.I was wondering if thats the
case but I dont think it will be like that... it would be nice if someone
who has used bugzilla for multiple projects can clarify this point..I think
it will be a pain to have seperate installs of bugzilla for each project...
what abt Trac for the similar situation? does it support multiple projects? 

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.



On 3/7/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
 I finally installed Bugzilla on my home notebook last night. My setup
was Winxp with IIS. I made one small mistake and I wasnt able to see the
start page for bugzilla. I will let you know the mistake later. I Fixed that
mistake in lunch hrs and it works fine now. Havent played with it yet. I will
post my experience later. 

By the way, if i have multiple projects/web sites lets say A, B, C, can I
customize bugzilla so that I have 3 different ticketing/faq/bugtracking
systems independent of each other? Is it doable? if yes, then how is it done?
Can anyone share there experience. 

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.

 

On 3/1/07, Justin Haygood < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: 

Regarding being able to pick a user from a dropdown, yes, you just enter
their name. However, each "component" you specify has a default owner, 
which we use here. Bugzilla also does the same thing actually. You don't
want a project with a thousand authors (read: the type of projects both
software was designed for) to have each author listed in the drop down, 
eh?

Trac is also fairly customizeable via its trac-admin program, and has
useful features:

Milestones (useful for long term projects)
Versions (useful if you one Trac install per project. We don't, so we 
turn this off)
Components (For components of a single project. If you're like us, then
we replace 'components' with products)
Ticket Priorities, which are customizeable. For instance, we replaced 
critical with 'burning' ;)

Each subsection can be disabled if you so desire. Plus, its actually
fairly fast, since its written in python and we use it in Apache 2.2
(whatever comes with OpenSUSE 10.2 ) via mod_python. 

--Justin Haygood

On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 09:40 -0500, Ajas Mohammed wrote:
> Hi,
> Can anyone clarify what Steven pointed out about not being able to
> "pick" a user from dropdown in demo on their site? Does it work in 
> regular version of trac?
>
> So far, looking at the responses ppl seem to be very happy using Trac
> since it integrates directly with Subversion. I decided I would give
> ratings/points to Trac/Bugzilla, so anyone who reads this thread can 
> decide which route to take.
>
> So far I think Trac (6) & Bugzilla(4) and rating is 1-10 , 10 being
> highest.  If anyone has experience using these tools then please share
> your experience with Trac/Bugzilla. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ajas Mohammed.
>
> On 2/28/07, Steven Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> The only downside to trac is that it doesn't have the detail 
> that
> bugzilla does. There is also the annoyance of not be