Re: A question about systemd documentation

2015-08-09 חוט Shlomi Fish
Hi Omer,

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:21:55 +0300
Omer Zak  wrote:

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Re: Videos of AP2015 (was Re: A question about systemd documentation)

2015-08-09 חוט Shai Berger
Same place that the camera videos will be uploaded to... we're still working 
on setting that place up.

Shai.

On Sunday 09 August 2015 11:23:49 Dov Grobgeld wrote:
> Where should we (presenters) upload the screen recorded sessions? My ogv
> file is about 100M.
> 
> Regards,
> Dov
> 
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Shai Berger  wrote:
> > On Sunday 09 August 2015 10:50:11 Ira Abramov wrote:
> > > And sadly I missed the whole thing due to a car breakdown. are any
> > > talks from AP2015 going to pop up on youtube?
> > 
> > The whole thing was recorded and I am supposed to hop over to the video
> > people
> > to pick up the recordings.
> > 
> > BUT -- they are raw; we had budget enough for the recordings, not for
> > editing.
> > I need to put them online, and volunteers should take and edit them
> > before we
> > put them up.
> > 
> > For this, i need two things:
> > 
> > One is volunteers to edit; some people have already volunteers, but more
> > will
> > be merrier (and hopefully make the process shorter).
> > 
> > The second is someone who can upload -- raw footage is supposed to be on
> > the
> > order of 100G, and I suspect I won't be able to push it all up before I
> > go abroad on Tuesday. I can bring you the hard-drive (within reasonable
> > distance
> > from Givat Shmuel).
> > 
> > Volunteer to upload will also be nicely asked to administer distribution
> > to editing volunteers.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Shai.
> > 
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Re: Videos of AP2015 (was Re: A question about systemd documentation)

2015-08-09 חוט Dov Grobgeld
Where should we (presenters) upload the screen recorded sessions? My ogv
file is about 100M.

Regards,
Dov


On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Shai Berger  wrote:

> On Sunday 09 August 2015 10:50:11 Ira Abramov wrote:
> > And sadly I missed the whole thing due to a car breakdown. are any talks
> > from AP2015 going to pop up on youtube?
> >
> The whole thing was recorded and I am supposed to hop over to the video
> people
> to pick up the recordings.
>
> BUT -- they are raw; we had budget enough for the recordings, not for
> editing.
> I need to put them online, and volunteers should take and edit them before
> we
> put them up.
>
> For this, i need two things:
>
> One is volunteers to edit; some people have already volunteers, but more
> will
> be merrier (and hopefully make the process shorter).
>
> The second is someone who can upload -- raw footage is supposed to be on
> the
> order of 100G, and I suspect I won't be able to push it all up before I go
> abroad on Tuesday. I can bring you the hard-drive (within reasonable
> distance
> from Givat Shmuel).
>
> Volunteer to upload will also be nicely asked to administer distribution to
> editing volunteers.
>
> Thanks,
> Shai.
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Videos of AP2015 (was Re: A question about systemd documentation)

2015-08-09 חוט Shai Berger
On Sunday 09 August 2015 10:50:11 Ira Abramov wrote:
> And sadly I missed the whole thing due to a car breakdown. are any talks
> from AP2015 going to pop up on youtube?
> 
The whole thing was recorded and I am supposed to hop over to the video people 
to pick up the recordings.

BUT -- they are raw; we had budget enough for the recordings, not for editing. 
I need to put them online, and volunteers should take and edit them before we 
put them up.

For this, i need two things: 

One is volunteers to edit; some people have already volunteers, but more will 
be merrier (and hopefully make the process shorter).

The second is someone who can upload -- raw footage is supposed to be on the 
order of 100G, and I suspect I won't be able to push it all up before I go 
abroad on Tuesday. I can bring you the hard-drive (within reasonable distance 
from Givat Shmuel).

Volunteer to upload will also be nicely asked to administer distribution to 
editing volunteers.

Thanks,
Shai.
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Re: A question about systemd documentation

2015-08-09 חוט Lior Kaplan
Probably all of them.

There was a video camera in each of the 3 rooms.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Ira Abramov 
wrote:

> And sadly I missed the whole thing due to a car breakdown. are any talks
> from AP2015 going to pop up on youtube?
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Omer Zak  wrote:
>
>> Hello Oron,
>>
>> There WERE claims about insufficient documentation of systemd components
>> and interfaces - I wasn't kidding about this.
>> The existence of those claims is acknowledged in:
>> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd#Various_other_sources
>>
>> The same place also rebuts those claims, like you did in the following.
>>
>> --- Omer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 15:10 +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
>> > On Saturday 08 August 2015 04:50:18 Omer Zak wrote:
>> > > Hello Lennart,
>> > > ...
>> > > Among all other claims against systemd, there were claims that its
>> > > components and interfaces are insufficiently documented. What is the
>> > > status of systemd components' documentation today?
>> >
>> > Omer, you've got to be kidding:
>> >  * systemd is one of the best documented projects -- I'll not even
>> start to compare with sysvinit ;-)
>> >  * You can begin with the tutorials under:
>> >
>> https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/systemd/#publications
>> >  * Then, you can always follow details in your trusty man-pages:
>> >  http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man (linked from
>> the previous page).
>> >  * Also, as Lennart demonstrated "systemctl status " show you
>> the
>> >available documentation for .
>> >
>> > P.S: note that man-pages information is refactored. E.g: "man
>> systemd-service"
>> >  is an extension of the generic "man systemd-unit", just
>> >  like "man systemd-exec" contain material that belongs to the
>> execution
>> >  details in "man systemd-service" (as well as other execution
>> contexts).
>> >
>> > Enjoy,
>>
>>
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Re: A question about systemd documentation

2015-08-09 חוט Ira Abramov
And sadly I missed the whole thing due to a car breakdown. are any talks
from AP2015 going to pop up on youtube?

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Omer Zak  wrote:

> Hello Oron,
>
> There WERE claims about insufficient documentation of systemd components
> and interfaces - I wasn't kidding about this.
> The existence of those claims is acknowledged in:
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd#Various_other_sources
>
> The same place also rebuts those claims, like you did in the following.
>
> --- Omer
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 15:10 +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> > On Saturday 08 August 2015 04:50:18 Omer Zak wrote:
> > > Hello Lennart,
> > > ...
> > > Among all other claims against systemd, there were claims that its
> > > components and interfaces are insufficiently documented. What is the
> > > status of systemd components' documentation today?
> >
> > Omer, you've got to be kidding:
> >  * systemd is one of the best documented projects -- I'll not even start
> to compare with sysvinit ;-)
> >  * You can begin with the tutorials under:
> >  https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/systemd/#publications
> >  * Then, you can always follow details in your trusty man-pages:
> >  http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man (linked from
> the previous page).
> >  * Also, as Lennart demonstrated "systemctl status " show you
> the
> >available documentation for .
> >
> > P.S: note that man-pages information is refactored. E.g: "man
> systemd-service"
> >  is an extension of the generic "man systemd-unit", just
> >  like "man systemd-exec" contain material that belongs to the
> execution
> >  details in "man systemd-service" (as well as other execution
> contexts).
> >
> > Enjoy,
>
>
> --
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> My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/
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Re: A question about systemd documentation

2015-08-08 חוט Omer Zak
Hello Oron,

There WERE claims about insufficient documentation of systemd components
and interfaces - I wasn't kidding about this.
The existence of those claims is acknowledged in:
https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd#Various_other_sources

The same place also rebuts those claims, like you did in the following.

--- Omer



On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 15:10 +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Saturday 08 August 2015 04:50:18 Omer Zak wrote:
> > Hello Lennart,
> > ...
> > Among all other claims against systemd, there were claims that its
> > components and interfaces are insufficiently documented. What is the
> > status of systemd components' documentation today?
> 
> Omer, you've got to be kidding:
>  * systemd is one of the best documented projects -- I'll not even start to 
> compare with sysvinit ;-)
>  * You can begin with the tutorials under:
>  https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/systemd/#publications
>  * Then, you can always follow details in your trusty man-pages:
>  http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man (linked from the 
> previous page).
>  * Also, as Lennart demonstrated "systemctl status " show you the
>available documentation for .
> 
> P.S: note that man-pages information is refactored. E.g: "man systemd-service"
>  is an extension of the generic "man systemd-unit", just
>  like "man systemd-exec" contain material that belongs to the execution
>  details in "man systemd-service" (as well as other execution contexts).
> 
> Enjoy,


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Re: A question about systemd documentation

2015-08-08 חוט Oron Peled
On Saturday 08 August 2015 04:50:18 Omer Zak wrote:
> Hello Lennart,
> ...
> Among all other claims against systemd, there were claims that its
> components and interfaces are insufficiently documented. What is the
> status of systemd components' documentation today?

Omer, you've got to be kidding:
 * systemd is one of the best documented projects -- I'll not even start to 
compare with sysvinit ;-)
 * You can begin with the tutorials under:
 https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/systemd/#publications
 * Then, you can always follow details in your trusty man-pages:
 http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man (linked from the 
previous page).
 * Also, as Lennart demonstrated "systemctl status " show you the
   available documentation for .

P.S: note that man-pages information is refactored. E.g: "man systemd-service"
 is an extension of the generic "man systemd-unit", just
 like "man systemd-exec" contain material that belongs to the execution
 details in "man systemd-service" (as well as other execution contexts).

Enjoy,

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