Re: [Distutils] pip feedback to user...

2013-11-18 Thread Marcus Smith
I agree with you Chris.  It think it's confusing too.
There is an existing issue for this. https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/376
Marcus


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Chris Barker wrote:

> Is this the right place to discuss UX issues for pip? If not, point to the
> right place, if so, read on:
>
> I think pip's usability could be much improved with a little tweaking to
> the messages it prints to the console when it does its thing. For instance,
> when I do a:
>
> pip install some_package
>
> I get the message:
>
> Downloading/unpacking some_package
>
> When in fact, pip is not (yet) doing that -- what it is doing is looking
> for the package on pypi (or ???) Which is fine if the package is found, but
> if it's not, you then get some confusing messages, like:
>
> Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement some-package
> Cleaning up...
>
> not to bad -- it does say it wasn't found, but it seems it could be a bit
> odd to a new user -- "but I thought it was being downloaded?"
>
> I was just trying to upgrade a packe that I was told could now be pip
> installed:
>
> $ pip install --upgrade tracpy
> Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement tracpy in
> /Users/chris.barker/PythonStuff/TracPy/tracpy
> Downloading/unpacking tracpy
> Cleaning up...
> No distributions at all found for tracpy in
> /Users/chris.barker/PythonStuff/TracPy/tracpy
> Storing complete log in /Users/chris.barker/.pip/pip.log
>
> It turns out that they have not (yet?) registered it with pypi (and I have
> a n older copy in /Users/chris.barker/PythonStuff/TracPy/tracpy). But it
> does seem weird and confusing that it first says it can't find any
> downloads, then tells me its downloading, then cleaning up, then says it
> couldn't find anything...
>
>
> Anyway, small stuff, but these little things make a difference.
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
>
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[Distutils] pip feedback to user...

2013-11-18 Thread Chris Barker
Is this the right place to discuss UX issues for pip? If not, point to the
right place, if so, read on:

I think pip's usability could be much improved with a little tweaking to
the messages it prints to the console when it does its thing. For instance,
when I do a:

pip install some_package

I get the message:

Downloading/unpacking some_package

When in fact, pip is not (yet) doing that -- what it is doing is looking
for the package on pypi (or ???) Which is fine if the package is found, but
if it's not, you then get some confusing messages, like:

Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement some-package
Cleaning up...

not to bad -- it does say it wasn't found, but it seems it could be a bit
odd to a new user -- "but I thought it was being downloaded?"

I was just trying to upgrade a packe that I was told could now be pip
installed:

$ pip install --upgrade tracpy
Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement tracpy in
/Users/chris.barker/PythonStuff/TracPy/tracpy
Downloading/unpacking tracpy
Cleaning up...
No distributions at all found for tracpy in
/Users/chris.barker/PythonStuff/TracPy/tracpy
Storing complete log in /Users/chris.barker/.pip/pip.log

It turns out that they have not (yet?) registered it with pypi (and I have
a n older copy in /Users/chris.barker/PythonStuff/TracPy/tracpy). But it
does seem weird and confusing that it first says it can't find any
downloads, then tells me its downloading, then cleaning up, then says it
couldn't find anything...


Anyway, small stuff, but these little things make a difference.

-Chris





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Emergency Response Division
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Seattle, WA  98115   (206) 526-6317   main reception

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