Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:43 AM, ken cochrane wrote: > b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, and > it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is found > here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine > > b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to > http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we switched > pypi over to serving over SSL. > > I have submitted a pull request to fix this. > https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 > but it hasn't been accepted. > > I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs and > push out a new version. > I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant > incase I do it wrong and break something. > > I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets accepted > or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one again and > remove my fix. > > Two things: > > 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more useful for companies and such to use. > > 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave > comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a new > version so we can get the mirror up to date. I don't have such permission sadly. > > Thank you, > Ken Cochrane > ___ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:33 AM, ken cochrane wrote: > >> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, and >> it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is found >> here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine >> >> b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to >> http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we >> switched pypi over to serving over SSL. >> >> I have submitted a pull request to fix this. >> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 >> but it hasn't been accepted. >> >> I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs and >> push out a new version. >> I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant >> incase I do it wrong and break something. >> >> I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets >> accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one >> again and remove my fix. >> >> Two things: >> >> 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? > > Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a availability/speed > side of things now and will likely move to being more useful for companies > and such to use. > > OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who is in > charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at Google, > and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he doesn't > work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that side. Procedure is probably someone decide to remove it and ask here, and then we route b.pypi.python.org back to PyPI so the address doesn't stop working. > > If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of date > mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the long run. > >> >> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave >> comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a >> new version so we can get the mirror up to date. > > I don't have such permission sadly. > > > Thank you anyway. > - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
> > > b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, > and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is > found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine > > b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to > http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we > switched pypi over to serving over SSL. > > I have submitted a pull request to fix this. > https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 > but it hasn't been accepted. > > I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs > and push out a new version. > I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant > incase I do it wrong and break something. > > I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets > accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one > again and remove my fix. > > Two things: > > 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? > > > Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a > availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more > useful for companies and such to use. > OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who is in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that side. If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of date mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the long run. > > 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave > comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a > new version so we can get the mirror up to date. > > > I don't have such permission sadly. > > Thank you anyway. ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM, ken cochrane wrote: > >> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, >> and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is >> found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine >> >> b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to >> http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we >> switched pypi over to serving over SSL. >> >> I have submitted a pull request to fix this. >> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 >> but it hasn't been accepted. >> >> I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs >> and push out a new version. >> I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant >> incase I do it wrong and break something. >> >> I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets >> accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one >> again and remove my fix. >> >> Two things: >> >> 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? >> >> >> Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a >> availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more >> useful for companies and such to use. >> > > OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who is > in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at > Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he > doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that > side. > I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. If he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. -Brett > > If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of date > mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the long run. > > >> >> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave >> comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a >> new version so we can get the mirror up to date. >> >> >> I don't have such permission sadly. >> >> > Thank you anyway. > > > ___ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, >>> and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is >>> found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine >>> >>> b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to >>> http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we >>> switched pypi over to serving over SSL. >>> >>> I have submitted a pull request to fix this. >>> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 >>> but it hasn't been accepted. >>> >>> I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs >>> and push out a new version. >>> I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant >>> incase I do it wrong and break something. >>> >>> I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets >>> accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one >>> again and remove my fix. >>> >>> Two things: >>> >>> 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? >>> >>> >>> Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a >>> availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more >>> useful for companies and such to use. >>> >> >> OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who is >> in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at >> Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he >> doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that >> side. >> > > I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. If > he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. > > Brett, Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE - guido - kencochrane (me) - kumar.mcmillan - martin.v.loewis - r1chardj0n3s Ken > >> If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of date >> mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the long run. >> >> >>> >>> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave >>> comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a >>> new version so we can get the mirror up to date. >>> >>> >>> I don't have such permission sadly. >>> >>> >> Thank you anyway. >> >> > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On 5 June 2013 01:22, ken cochrane wrote: > Brett, > > Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE > > - guido > - kencochrane (me) > - kumar.mcmillan > - martin.v.loewis > - r1chardj0n3s > orly? I wouldn't know what to do with that :-) [if there is something I can do then I'm happy to!] ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On Jun 6, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > On 5 June 2013 01:22, ken cochrane wrote: > Brett, > > Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE > > - guido > - kencochrane (me) > - kumar.mcmillan > - martin.v.loewis > - r1chardj0n3s > > orly? I wouldn't know what to do with that :-) [if there is something I can > do then I'm happy to!] > ___ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig FWIW I fully support killing b.pypi.python.org. It's been a constant problem with being months out of date all the time. It seems as soon as it gets fixed within a month or two it's broken again, and stays broken for 30, 60, or 90+ days at a time. - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM, ken cochrane wrote: > > b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we switched pypi over to serving over SSL. I have submitted a pull request to fix this. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 but it hasn't been accepted. I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs and push out a new version. I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant incase I do it wrong and break something. I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one again and remove my fix. Two things: 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more useful for companies and such to use. >>> >>> OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who >>> is in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked >>> at Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that >>> he doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on >>> that side. >>> >> >> I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. >> If he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. >> >> > Brett, > > Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE > > - guido > - kencochrane (me) > - kumar.mcmillan > - martin.v.loewis > - r1chardj0n3s > So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. First is empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than "cron:". After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. If you want, Ken, I can clone https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull request to do all of this since I recently did something similar for py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. -Brett > > Ken > > >> >>> If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of >>> date mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the >>> long run. >>> >>> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a new version so we can get the mirror up to date. I don't have such permission sadly. >>> Thank you anyway. >>> >>> >> > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
> >> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App > engine, and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for > it is found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine > > b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to > http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we > switched pypi over to serving over SSL. > > I have submitted a pull request to fix this. > https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 > but it hasn't been accepted. > > I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the > logs and push out a new version. > I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little > hesitant incase I do it wrong and break something. > > I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets > accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one > again and remove my fix. > > Two things: > > 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? > > > Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a > availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more > useful for companies and such to use. > OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who is in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that side. >>> >>> I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. >>> If he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. >>> >>> >> Brett, >> >> Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE >> >> - guido >> - kencochrane (me) >> - kumar.mcmillan >> - martin.v.loewis >> - r1chardj0n3s >> > > So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) > > In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. First > is empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than "cron:". > After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see > http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. > > If you want, Ken, I can clone > https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull > request to do all of this since I recently did something similar for > py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. > Brett, If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a pull request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from the pypi mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent it's way. >> >>> If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of date mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the long run. > > 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and > leave comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push > out a new version so we can get the mirror up to date. > > > I don't have such permission sadly. > > Thank you anyway. >>> >> > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:26 PM, ken cochrane wrote: > > >> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, and >> it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is found >> here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine >> >> b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to >> http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we >> switched pypi over to serving over SSL. >> >> I have submitted a pull request to fix this. >> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 >> but it hasn't been accepted. >> >> I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs and >> push out a new version. >> I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant >> incase I do it wrong and break something. >> >> I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets >> accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one >> again and remove my fix. >> >> Two things: >> >> 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? > > Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a availability/speed > side of things now and will likely move to being more useful for companies > and such to use. > > OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who is in > charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at Google, > and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he doesn't > work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that side. > > I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. If he > doesn't know I can try to find out internally. > > > Brett, > > Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE > > - guido > - kencochrane (me) > - kumar.mcmillan > - martin.v.loewis > - r1chardj0n3s > > So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) > > In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. First is > empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than "cron:". After > that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see > http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. > > If you want, Ken, I can clone > https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull request > to do all of this since I recently did something similar for > py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. > > Brett, > > If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a pull > request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from the pypi > mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent it's way. > > > > > > If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of date > mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the long run. > >> >> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave >> comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a >> new version so we can get the mirror up to date. > > I don't have such permission sadly. > > > Thank you anyway. > > > > > Paging Noah to kill the DNS Unless there's any objections to removing it? - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:26 PM, ken cochrane wrote: > >> >> >>> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, and >>> it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is found >>> here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine >>> >>> b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to >>> http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we >>> switched pypi over to serving over SSL. >>> >>> I have submitted a pull request to fix this. >>> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 >>> but it hasn't been accepted. >>> >>> I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs and >>> push out a new version. >>> I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant >>> incase I do it wrong and break something. >>> >>> I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets >>> accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one >>> again and remove my fix. >>> >>> Two things: >>> >>> 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? >> >> Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a availability/speed >> side of things now and will likely move to being more useful for companies >> and such to use. >> >> OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who is in >> charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at Google, >> and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he doesn't >> work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that side. >> >> I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. If >> he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. >> >> >> Brett, >> >> Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE >> >> - guido >> - kencochrane (me) >> - kumar.mcmillan >> - martin.v.loewis >> - r1chardj0n3s >> >> So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) >> >> In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. First is >> empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than "cron:". >> After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see >> http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. >> >> If you want, Ken, I can clone >> https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull request >> to do all of this since I recently did something similar for >> py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. >> >> Brett, >> >> If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a pull >> request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from the >> pypi mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent it's >> way. >> >> >> >> >> >> If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of date >> mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the long run. >> >>> >>> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave >>> comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a >>> new version so we can get the mirror up to date. >> >> I don't have such permission sadly. >> >> >> Thank you anyway. >> >> >> >> >> > > Paging Noah to kill the DNS Unless there's any objections to removing it? If no one complains in the next 24-ish hours I'll just point it back at pypi.python.org like we did with d.pypi. --Noah signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
I might not get to it for a week, but I will get to it. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:26 PM, ken cochrane wrote: > > >>> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App >> engine, and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for >> it is found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine >> >> b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to >> http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we >> switched pypi over to serving over SSL. >> >> I have submitted a pull request to fix this. >> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 >> but it hasn't been accepted. >> >> I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the >> logs and push out a new version. >> I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little >> hesitant incase I do it wrong and break something. >> >> I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets >> accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one >> again and remove my fix. >> >> Two things: >> >> 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? >> >> >> Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a >> availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more >> useful for companies and such to use. >> > > OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who > is in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he > worked at Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but > now that he doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact > person on that side. > I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. If he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. >>> Brett, >>> >>> Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE >>> >>> - guido >>> - kencochrane (me) >>> - kumar.mcmillan >>> - martin.v.loewis >>> - r1chardj0n3s >>> >> >> So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) >> >> In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. First >> is empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than "cron:". >> After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see >> http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. >> >> If you want, Ken, I can clone >> https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull >> request to do all of this since I recently did something similar for >> py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. >> > > Brett, > > If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a pull > request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from the > pypi mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent it's > way. > > > > >>> > If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of > date mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the > long run. > > >> >> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and >> leave comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push >> out a new version so we can get the mirror up to date. >> >> >> I don't have such permission sadly. >> >> > Thank you anyway. > > >>> >> > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
Ok, thanks Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > I might not get to it for a week, but I will get to it. > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:26 PM, ken cochrane wrote: >> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we switched pypi over to serving over SSL. I have submitted a pull request to fix this. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 but it hasn't been accepted. I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs and push out a new version. I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant incase I do it wrong and break something. I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one again and remove my fix. Two things: 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? >>> >>> Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a >>> availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being >>> more useful for companies and such to use. >> >> OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who >> is in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked >> at Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now >> that he doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact >> person on that side. > > I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. > If he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. Brett, Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE - guido - kencochrane (me) - kumar.mcmillan - martin.v.loewis - r1chardj0n3s >>> >>> So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) >>> >>> In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. First is >>> empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than "cron:". >>> After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see >>> http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. >>> >>> If you want, Ken, I can clone >>> https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull >>> request to do all of this since I recently did something similar for >>> py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. >> >> Brett, >> >> If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a pull >> request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from the >> pypi mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent it's >> way. >> >> >> >> >> If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of >> date mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the >> long run. >> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a new version so we can get the mirror up to date. >>> >>> I don't have such permission sadly. >> >> Thank you anyway. > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:26 PM, ken cochrane wrote: >> >>> >>> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we switched pypi over to serving over SSL. I have submitted a pull request to fix this. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 but it hasn't been accepted. I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs and push out a new version. I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant incase I do it wrong and break something. I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one again and remove my fix. Two things: 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? >>> >>> Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a availability/speed >>> side of things now and will likely move to being more useful for companies >>> and such to use. >>> >>> OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who is >>> in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at >>> Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he >>> doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that >>> side. >>> >>> I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. If >>> he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. >>> >>> >>> Brett, >>> >>> Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE >>> >>> - guido >>> - kencochrane (me) >>> - kumar.mcmillan >>> - martin.v.loewis >>> - r1chardj0n3s >>> >>> So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) >>> >>> In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. First is >>> empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than "cron:". >>> After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see >>> http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. >>> >>> If you want, Ken, I can clone >>> https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull >>> request to do all of this since I recently did something similar for >>> py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. >>> >>> Brett, >>> >>> If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a pull >>> request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from the >>> pypi mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent it's >>> way. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of date >>> mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the long run. >>> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a new version so we can get the mirror up to date. >>> >>> I don't have such permission sadly. >>> >>> >>> Thank you anyway. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Paging Noah to kill the DNS Unless there's any objections to removing it? > > If no one complains in the next 24-ish hours I'll just point it back at > pypi.python.org like we did with d.pypi. This is now complete. In another 24 hours there should be no traffic to the GAE app and it can just be archived or deleted. --Noah signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
On Jun 9, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:26 PM, ken cochrane wrote: >>> > b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App engine, > and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for it is > found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine > > b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to > http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we > switched pypi over to serving over SSL. > > I have submitted a pull request to fix this. > https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 > but it hasn't been accepted. > > I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the logs > and push out a new version. > I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little hesitant > incase I do it wrong and break something. > > I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets > accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one > again and remove my fix. > > Two things: > > 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more useful for companies and such to use. OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who is in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that side. I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned off. If he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. Brett, Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE - guido - kencochrane (me) - kumar.mcmillan - martin.v.loewis - r1chardj0n3s So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. First is empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than "cron:". After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. If you want, Ken, I can clone https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull request to do all of this since I recently did something similar for py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. Brett, If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a pull request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from the pypi mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent it's way. If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of date mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the long run. > > 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and leave > comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push out a > new version so we can get the mirror up to date. I don't have such permission sadly. Thank you anyway. >>> >>> Paging Noah to kill the DNS Unless there's any objections to removing it? >> >> If no one complains in the next 24-ish hours I'll just point it back at >> pypi.python.org like we did with d.pypi. > > This is now complete. In another 24 hours there should be no traffic to the > GAE app and it can just be archived or deleted. Thank you! ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
OK, http://www.pypi-mirrors.org is now reporting b.pypi.python.org as N/A which I believe means the DNS propagation is complete. We can move on to phase 2 and use Brett's trick to switch to serving 404's for everything for a little while (how long?) and then fully turn off the app. Ken On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > > > > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > > >> > >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:26 PM, ken cochrane wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App > engine, and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for > it is found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine > > b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to > http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we > switched pypi over to serving over SSL. > > I have submitted a pull request to fix this. > https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 > but it hasn't been accepted. > > I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the > logs and push out a new version. > I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little > hesitant incase I do it wrong and break something. > > I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets > accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one > again and remove my fix. > > Two things: > > 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? > >>> > >>> Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a > availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more > useful for companies and such to use. > >>> > >>> OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know who > is in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked at > Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that he > doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on that > side. > >>> > >>> I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned > off. If he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. > >>> > >>> > >>> Brett, > >>> > >>> Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE > >>> > >>> - guido > >>> - kencochrane (me) > >>> - kumar.mcmillan > >>> - martin.v.loewis > >>> - r1chardj0n3s > >>> > >>> So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) > >>> > >>> In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. > First is empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than > "cron:". After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see > http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. > >>> > >>> If you want, Ken, I can clone > https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull > request to do all of this since I recently did something similar for > py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. > >>> > >>> Brett, > >>> > >>> If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a > pull request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from > the pypi mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent > it's way. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of > date mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the > long run. > >>> > > 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and > leave comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push > out a new version so we can get the mirror up to date. > >>> > >>> I don't have such permission sadly. > >>> > >>> > >>> Thank you anyway. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Paging Noah to kill the DNS Unless there's any objections to removing > it? > > > > If no one complains in the next 24-ish hours I'll just point it back at > pypi.python.org like we did with d.pypi. > > This is now complete. In another 24 hours there should be no traffic to > the GAE app and it can just be archived or deleted. > > --Noah > > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] b.pypi.python.org
Pull request sent with the changes to always return a 404 and to shut down cron. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:31 AM, ken cochrane wrote: > OK, http://www.pypi-mirrors.org is now reporting b.pypi.python.org as N/A > which I believe means the DNS propagation is complete. We can move on to > phase 2 and use Brett's trick to switch to serving 404's for everything for > a little while (how long?) and then fully turn off the app. > > Ken > > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: >> >> > >> > On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:26 PM, ken cochrane >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App >> engine, and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for >> it is found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine >> >> b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to >> http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we >> switched pypi over to serving over SSL. >> >> I have submitted a pull request to fix this. >> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 >> but it hasn't been accepted. >> >> I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the >> logs and push out a new version. >> I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little >> hesitant incase I do it wrong and break something. >> >> I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets >> accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one >> again and remove my fix. >> >> Two things: >> >> 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror? >> >>> >> >>> Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a >> availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more >> useful for companies and such to use. >> >>> >> >>> OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know >> who is in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked >> at Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but now that >> he doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on >> that side. >> >>> >> >>> I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned >> off. If he doesn't know I can try to find out internally. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Brett, >> >>> >> >>> Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE >> >>> >> >>> - guido >> >>> - kencochrane (me) >> >>> - kumar.mcmillan >> >>> - martin.v.loewis >> >>> - r1chardj0n3s >> >>> >> >>> So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =) >> >>> >> >>> In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things. >> First is empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than >> "cron:". After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see >> http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs. >> >>> >> >>> If you want, Ken, I can clone >> https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull >> request to do all of this since I recently did something similar for >> py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down. >> >>> >> >>> Brett, >> >>> >> >>> If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a >> pull request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from >> the pypi mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent >> it's way. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of >> date mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the >> long run. >> >>> >> >> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and >> leave comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push >> out a new version so we can get the mirror up to date. >> >>> >> >>> I don't have such permission sadly. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Thank you anyway. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Paging Noah to kill the DNS Unless there's any objections to removing >> it? >> > >> > If no one complains in the next 24-ish hours I'll just point it back at >> pypi.python.org like we did with d.pypi. >> >> This is now complete. In another 24 hours there should be no traffic to >> the GAE app and it can just be archived or deleted. >> >> --Noah >> >> > > ___ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
