Thanks fro this.
Soren - Diversity statements are important for diversity and inclusion
within global spaces. To me this is one of the big priorities that OSM has
to address in order to flourish as a global map network and community.
To be honest, I am happy to have a phone call with you and Rory if you have
more questions about 'why.'
Heather
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:33 PM Rory McCann wrote:
> Yes the diversity statement has been beneficial. Plenty of people from
> marginalized groups have experienced lots of bad things, so one cannot
> assume that everyone agrees
>
> On 23 April 2020 20:41:05 CEST, "Sören Reinecke via Diversity-talk" <
> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> is a Diversity Statement really necessary? I mean we are people who want
>> diversity and we know that diversity is important for society's survival.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram
>>
>>
>> Original Message
>> Subject: Re: [Diversity-talk] UK Chapter Feedback on Diversity Statement
>> From: Rory McCann
>> To: Adam Hoyle ,diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org
>> CC:
>>
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback from OSMUK.
>>
>> The 2nd line of the Diversity Statement says:
>>
>> > We have created this diversity statement because we believe that a
>> diverse OpenStreetMap community is stronger and more vibrant. A diverse
>> community where people treat each other with respect has more potential
>> contributors and more sources for ideas, and will create a better map.
>>
>> Which could be read as a “why”. Personally, I view combating
>> racism/sexism/bigotry as a moral imperative. Also some OSM groups around
>> the world have welcomed the statement.
>>
>> Just FYI there is no Diversity Working Group, but instead a Special
>> Committee. Working Groups are semi-permanent. This mailing list is for
>> general interest in OSM & diversity and isn't specifically for the
>> Diveristy & Inclusivity Special Committeee (DISCo!)
>>
>> (Although I am on this list and on the DISCo)
>>
>> On 19.04.20 22:38, Adam Hoyle wrote:
>> > Hi Diversity Working Group,
>> >
>> > I'm writing on behalf of the UK Local Chapter (OSMUK). Regarding the
>> OSM
>> > Foundation Diversity Statement, we asked our members whether they
>> > supported the statement and to provide any anonymous feedback which we
>> > could pass on to the working group.
>> >
>> > The result was a broad level of support, with a few points, which I am
>> > passing to you here:
>> >
>> > I don't personally understand the problems yet and would love to
>> > find out, and increase the size and breadth of the community.
>> >
>> >
>> > I support this as it is, on the basis that any pro-diversity
>> > statement is better than none, but I think it's missing some
>> > important points. It says that OSM wants a more diverse community
>> > but not why! And it also fails to say clearly that diversity is
>> > good, and that discrimination is also bad.
>> > I would suggest, for example, adding a new sentence between the
>> > second and third sentences like "We believe that the greater the
>> > diversity in our community, the better OpenStreetMap will be.”
>> >
>> >
>> > It's a sad comment on life today that this is even necessary. Also
>> > a policy statement is merely a set of fine words which will remain
>> > empty without an action plan and without an enforcement procedure.
>> >
>> >
>> > I also agree with the comment about adding a sentence explaining why.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
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