Re: End of extended support for Django 1.11
Thank you all. I am mostly concerned about a possible widespread security issue. Hopefully, this is only paranoia on my part. While I'll look out for Adam's "maybe" ;) in such an event, I'll also look into the links Adam shared in case we need to backport any fixes ourselves. I appreciate the responses you have provided and thank you deeply for your ongoing dedication to this project and for the global web community at large. And yes, I completely agree that my organization needs to be more proactive on upgrades - this is a muscle we're improving day-by-day - including with this upgrade - though a few weeks late. Best, Daniela -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/73e34fd3-8c37-4366-bc2b-ffc4cf0fae7b%40googlegroups.com.
Re: End of extended support for Django 1.11
Personally, I'm counting the days and I'm against extending support of Django 1.11, just 1 day remaining. Best, Mariusz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/5a85ab7e-ded9-49a1-b2fd-50c1bf38%40googlegroups.com.
Re: End of extended support for Django 1.11
I agree with James, the cutoff date has been more than reasonable. Also, if there aren't any show-stopping bugs you know about, asking for the extension of the EOL "by a few weeks" doesn't really mean much. If we were past the cutoff date, and a high impact, wide reaching bug was found - yes, maybe I'd be in favour of a temporary extension and a bug fix release. But there isn't any. For smaller bug fixes, you can always backport them yourselves to your fork. You can use the script on https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/CommitterTips#AutomatingBackports and pip install the tarball from github: https://adamj.eu/tech/2019/03/11/pip-install-from-a-git-repository/ . On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 15:06, James Bennett wrote: > The end of support simply means there will be no further releases, and > any showstopping bugs reported will not be fixed. It doesn't mean > Django itself will stop working. Also, the decision is in the hands of > the Technical Board, not the Django Fellows, so the correct process > would be to request that the Technical Board schedule additional > support/releases of Django 1.11. > > That said, my personal opinion is that both the Python 2 EOL (2020-01) > and the Django 1.11 EOL (2020-04) were set years in advance; > organizations which waited until the last minute to do their upgrades > would simply wait until the last minute again if given an extension, > and be right back in the same problem. There has to be a cutoff date > at some point where we just say "sorry, but if you haven't prioritized > upgrading for years and years, we cannot tie up our open-source > project's resources because of that". And the announced cutoff, which > is in line with previous LTS releases of Django, seems as reasonable > as any other. > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:57 AM Daniela Kim wrote: > > > > Mariusz, > > Thank you for your response. > > > > Would it be possible for the Django Fellows to vote to extend Django > 1.11's EOL by a few weeks? For those of us with a large Django codebase, we > were bitten by the onerous Python 2->3 upgrade and so the start of our > Django upgrade was delayed by several weeks. > > > > Also, given the current global situation with Covid-19, including (1) > work-life difficulties/transitions for organizations and our developers and > (2) an evermore global online presence with further exposure to online > security threats, a graceful extension would be very much appreciated. > > > > Thank you for your consideration. > > Daniela > > > > > > On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 1:15:18 AM UTC-4, Mariusz Felisiak wrote: > >> > >> No, support of Django 1.11 ends on 1st April. > >> > >> Best, > >> Mariusz > >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/f5718ec3-6041-40db-93fd-b7b8b354e64a%40googlegroups.com > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAL13Cg_WBtBU%3D_ZrSPfgWfzP0U2PGsFXvcCMCY8GCcDRybS5tQ%40mail.gmail.com > . > -- Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAMyDDM2ooXoGuJ3GuFSg%2B3hBra8GQPiUSmJek0EmEEQOYMuuFw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: End of extended support for Django 1.11
The end of support simply means there will be no further releases, and any showstopping bugs reported will not be fixed. It doesn't mean Django itself will stop working. Also, the decision is in the hands of the Technical Board, not the Django Fellows, so the correct process would be to request that the Technical Board schedule additional support/releases of Django 1.11. That said, my personal opinion is that both the Python 2 EOL (2020-01) and the Django 1.11 EOL (2020-04) were set years in advance; organizations which waited until the last minute to do their upgrades would simply wait until the last minute again if given an extension, and be right back in the same problem. There has to be a cutoff date at some point where we just say "sorry, but if you haven't prioritized upgrading for years and years, we cannot tie up our open-source project's resources because of that". And the announced cutoff, which is in line with previous LTS releases of Django, seems as reasonable as any other. On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:57 AM Daniela Kim wrote: > > Mariusz, > Thank you for your response. > > Would it be possible for the Django Fellows to vote to extend Django 1.11's > EOL by a few weeks? For those of us with a large Django codebase, we were > bitten by the onerous Python 2->3 upgrade and so the start of our Django > upgrade was delayed by several weeks. > > Also, given the current global situation with Covid-19, including (1) > work-life difficulties/transitions for organizations and our developers and > (2) an evermore global online presence with further exposure to online > security threats, a graceful extension would be very much appreciated. > > Thank you for your consideration. > Daniela > > > On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 1:15:18 AM UTC-4, Mariusz Felisiak wrote: >> >> No, support of Django 1.11 ends on 1st April. >> >> Best, >> Mariusz >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/f5718ec3-6041-40db-93fd-b7b8b354e64a%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAL13Cg_WBtBU%3D_ZrSPfgWfzP0U2PGsFXvcCMCY8GCcDRybS5tQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: End of extended support for Django 1.11
Mariusz, Thank you for your response. Would it be possible for the Django Fellows to vote to extend Django 1.11's EOL by a few weeks? For those of us with a large Django codebase, we were bitten by the onerous Python 2->3 upgrade and so the start of our Django upgrade was delayed by several weeks. Also, given the current global situation with Covid-19, including (1) work-life difficulties/transitions for organizations and our developers and (2) an evermore global online presence with further exposure to online security threats, a graceful extension would be very much appreciated. Thank you for your consideration. Daniela On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 1:15:18 AM UTC-4, Mariusz Felisiak wrote: > > No, support of Django 1.11 ends on 1st April. > > Best, > Mariusz > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/f5718ec3-6041-40db-93fd-b7b8b354e64a%40googlegroups.com.
Re: End of extended support for Django 1.11
No, support of Django 1.11 ends on 1st April. Best, Mariusz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/45c5a2f5-5fbd-4eec-b57c-89fc48367449%40googlegroups.com.
