Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
I don't know who did it or when, but the http://djangoproject.com site is now proudly displaying a favicon. Thanks to whoever it was for the Halloween treat... --Ned. Mikkel Høgh wrote: > If no one is against this, why hasn't anything happened yet? > If Jacob, or anyone else, is against it, I wish they would step > forward and say so. Perhaps even argue as to why. > > > > > > -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
It would be nice to take advantage of differing priorities rather than discourage them. I think that's the way it's meant to work, but in this case the requestor doesn't have the expertise to finish the job? Just my unrequested two cents, Matt -Original Message- From: django-developers@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Alchin Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:27 PM To: django-developers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website I'll preface my thoughts with the disclaimer that I have authority here, I'm just somebody who's been watching this discussion. First, this isn't a bug in any sense of the word. It has nothing to do with any breakage of code. It's a feature request. Let's just get that straight. Feature requests should always get lower priority, plain and simple. While I can appreciate the desire of some to have a favicon, and I can also understand the frustration at not hearing much from those in charge, but there seems to be some confusion as to how things work here. Yes, there has been discussion, and yes, there has been general agreement on it, among those who want to see it happen (which actually surprises me). However, a lack of negative response does not automatically imply approval by anyone, especially not those in charge. So the logic of "we think it's great and nobody disagreed, so it should be applied immediately" is completely false. If that was the way it worked for other tickets, I'd have nightmares about it myself, and I'm not even a core developer. The general rule of thumb, as far I as I understand it, is that the burden of proof is on those in support of the ticket. Sure, you might have a lot of support, but if that support isn't greater than the reluctance to implement it, it won't get done. No amount of silence from one party will change that. If the core devs aren't convinced (and they'll tell you when they are), it won't happen. Also, allow me to try to explain why it's rude to bring things like this up in this manner. Take a look at how many times the core developers respond to emails on django-developers on an average day. I don't have numbers off-hand, but I typically see about 5-10 emails per day from each of Malcolm, Russell and Jacob, and there are others who are active as well. What this means is that they do in fact check their email. If they send an email before yours and another after it, the odds are astronomically high that they read your email along the way. Replying about it every few days just comes across as a child tugging on her parents' pant legs to get an ice cream cone. Add to that the language like "why hasn't anything happened yet?" and that child is now saying "BUT BUT BUT I WANT IT!1". Now, I'm not saying any of you are children, nor saying that you act like children. But you have to realize that things like this have the same effect on people as the child I described. These people have a lot to deal with, and every time they have to stop and read yet another email complaining about the lack of a favicon, they lose time, they lose patience, and they lose the momentum they had on their other endeavors. I don't mean to speak for anyone but myself, but I'm playing the odds when I say: they're listening, and they heard you. -Gul P.S. I apologize in advance if this offends anyone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On 10/5/07, Marty Alchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll preface my thoughts with the disclaimer that I have authority > here, I'm just somebody who's been watching this discussion. I am in such a position, and let me say +1 to everything you said. Thanks for saving me the effort of having to write it. :-) > I don't mean to speak for anyone but myself, but I'm playing the odds > when I say: they're listening, and they heard you. ... Yes, we did. And like Malcolm said, there are about 700 things higher on the list of things to deal with. Yours, Russ Magee %-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
Hello all, I'm the creator of this mess as I'm the issuer of the ticket 3867. I like django very much, I'm not that great at python yet to contribute so that was my try to help you guys. If I would only know how much time would be wasted on this discussion I wouldn't raise that call at all. So sorry for that. Still, I have to say I miss the favicon a lot: http://www.stereoit.com/django/django_favicon_missing.png and I thought it is just about taking the icon file and place it to the root of the htdocs folder (1 minute?). I've attached another try of django favicon to the ticket (16x16,48x48 and GIMP xcf file), this time with "dj" that clearly distinguish django. Any comments on the icon style is appreciated and I will improve it to the point where you like it. Once everybody is happy with that, just place it to the htdocs and move on. I hope I didn't offended anyone. I know you all are really busy with django internals. Kind regards, Robert Smol --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
I'll preface my thoughts with the disclaimer that I have authority here, I'm just somebody who's been watching this discussion. First, this isn't a bug in any sense of the word. It has nothing to do with any breakage of code. It's a feature request. Let's just get that straight. Feature requests should always get lower priority, plain and simple. While I can appreciate the desire of some to have a favicon, and I can also understand the frustration at not hearing much from those in charge, but there seems to be some confusion as to how things work here. Yes, there has been discussion, and yes, there has been general agreement on it, among those who want to see it happen (which actually surprises me). However, a lack of negative response does not automatically imply approval by anyone, especially not those in charge. So the logic of "we think it's great and nobody disagreed, so it should be applied immediately" is completely false. If that was the way it worked for other tickets, I'd have nightmares about it myself, and I'm not even a core developer. The general rule of thumb, as far I as I understand it, is that the burden of proof is on those in support of the ticket. Sure, you might have a lot of support, but if that support isn't greater than the reluctance to implement it, it won't get done. No amount of silence from one party will change that. If the core devs aren't convinced (and they'll tell you when they are), it won't happen. Also, allow me to try to explain why it's rude to bring things like this up in this manner. Take a look at how many times the core developers respond to emails on django-developers on an average day. I don't have numbers off-hand, but I typically see about 5-10 emails per day from each of Malcolm, Russell and Jacob, and there are others who are active as well. What this means is that they do in fact check their email. If they send an email before yours and another after it, the odds are astronomically high that they read your email along the way. Replying about it every few days just comes across as a child tugging on her parents' pant legs to get an ice cream cone. Add to that the language like "why hasn't anything happened yet?" and that child is now saying "BUT BUT BUT I WANT IT!1". Now, I'm not saying any of you are children, nor saying that you act like children. But you have to realize that things like this have the same effect on people as the child I described. These people have a lot to deal with, and every time they have to stop and read yet another email complaining about the lack of a favicon, they lose time, they lose patience, and they lose the momentum they had on their other endeavors. I don't mean to speak for anyone but myself, but I'm playing the odds when I say: they're listening, and they heard you. -Gul P.S. I apologize in advance if this offends anyone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On 10/4/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just let it go already, and turn your time and attention to a real bug. But see, it is a real bug, at least to people with a certain work style, and not one they can fix themselves by runnig their own patched django, since it's a "bug" with the official website. Personally I don't care one way or the other (it's not my work style), but I can appreciate the problem for some. It's a problem for Mikkel, he researched it, found someone had previously opened a ticket that was closed wontfix with an offhand-sounding "we don't really need one", and raised the issue here to see what others thought. More than a dozen piped up to agree they thougt a favicon a good idea, a few alternatives were posted, one of which seemed to get broad acceptance from those interested. And the response from anyone with the power to do anything was . silence. Nobody said it was a bad idea, or the icon was unacceptable, or it was too much work, or even reiterated that they still didn't think it was necessary even given the discussion. Personally it didn't strike me as antagonistic to have re-raised the issue. Indeed even after today's responses I'm left sitting here curious as to "whyever not?", and I don't even care if it happens. Karen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On Oct 4, 5:41 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the ticket was closed by a lead developer, and the decision has so > far survived many other people begging and pleading on the mailing > list, it's a safe bet that continuing that process is not likely to > lead to a favorable outcome; at this point it's downright > antagonistic. If it is indeed the opinion of the developers that Jacob's decision should not be questioned, I will not raise this issue again. I only hoped that there could be openness about it. If Jacob did actually have a reason beyond "I don't think we need one", I would like to hear it - if nothing else, I might learn something from it. Even if he did not, we might learn something from that. I am sorry if you find me antagonistic. That was not my intention. But since it annoys me almost every time I work with the Django docs, it has long been an itch that needed scratching. I still hope that this issue will be fixed in the future. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On 10/4/07, Mikkel Høgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason I have not reopened that particular ticket is that I don't > know > how you do things in the Django community. I assume that the one that > closed the ticket was Jacob Kaplan-Moss, and since I respect his > opinion, > I considered it to be rather rude to reopen it without him or another > of the Django developers having their say in the matter. If the ticket was closed by a lead developer, and the decision has so far survived many other people begging and pleading on the mailing list, it's a safe bet that continuing that process is not likely to lead to a favorable outcome; at this point it's downright antagonistic. Just let it go already, and turn your time and attention to a real bug. -- "Bureaucrat Conrad, you are technically correct -- the best kind of correct." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On Oct 4, 3:15 pm, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is now just getting rude. > > There are over 700 open bugs. If nobody is against fixing them, why are > they still open? Why hasn't anything happened yet? The horrors! Oh, > wait, maybe it's that thing where we take small, regular, steady steps. > Forgive me, it was not my intention to be rude, but as far as I am informed, ticket 3867 (the one in question) is still closed with the resolution "wontfix" I do not demand that this be done now (or ever). I am not in a position to demand anything here. The reason I have not reopened that particular ticket is that I don't know how you do things in the Django community. I assume that the one that closed the ticket was Jacob Kaplan-Moss, and since I respect his opinion, I considered it to be rather rude to reopen it without him or another of the Django developers having their say in the matter. Since he has not done so, and the ticket is still closed, I wrote as I did out of impatience. I meant no disrespect to anyone. I know that the Django developers have bigger and more important things on their plates, so all I'm asking for is an answer. If need be, I should be able to put together a patch, so all it would take would be for someone with access to the code to merge it, but if no one will merge it, it would only be an exercise in futility. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 06:05 -0700, Mikkel Høgh wrote: > If no one is against this, why hasn't anything happened yet? > If Jacob, or anyone else, is against it, I wish they would step > forward and say so. Perhaps even argue as to why. This is now just getting rude. There are over 700 open bugs. If nobody is against fixing them, why are they still open? Why hasn't anything happened yet? The horrors! Oh, wait, maybe it's that thing where we take small, regular, steady steps. Please try to appreciate that we don't have infinite amounts of time and there are much higher priority issues than this one. Django will still continue to function and we still continue to get millions of hits to the website despite the lack of the icon you want to have in place so much. Perhaps show some understanding whilst we manage to struggle on working on improving all aspects of Django? Thank you. Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website
If no one is against this, why hasn't anything happened yet? If Jacob, or anyone else, is against it, I wish they would step forward and say so. Perhaps even argue as to why. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
That is really good. Thanks :) On Sep 19, 1:44 pm, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree that a favicon is one of those fit-and-finish touches that helps > complete a website. Attached are my attempts. I agree with Todd that > "dj" is a better reminder of Django, and the color should be greener > (look at the badges to see that Wilson didn't slavishly follow the deep > green of the logos when making smaller versions of it). I've also > rejiggered the letters a bit to avoid smeary-looking blurs. > > Now we just need to get someone to put it on the site... > > --Ned. > > > > Todd O'Bryan wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:29 +, Johann C. Rocholl wrote: > > >> On Sep 17, 10:17 am, "Justin Lilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> I personally would also like a favicon for the django sites. I took the > >>> liberty of creating one using django's colors and fonts (stole the d from > >>> the logo). > > >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1397125183/ > > >> Here's another attempt, with improved vertical alignment > >> (mathematically perfect), and in Windows ICO format: > >>http://johann.rocholl.net/django-icon/favicon.ico > > > While I'm +0 on the favicon thing, I personally think "d" is > > insufficient and "dj" would be much more identifiable as uniquely > > Django. > > > Todd > > -- > Ned Batchelder,http://nedbatchelder.com > > django-favicon.png > 1KViewDownload > > django-favicon.ico > 1KDownload --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
I'm +1 as well, I think it will be handy. On 9/21/07, Jan Oberst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sep 21, 10:29 pm, Matt Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 21, 2007, at 2:22 PM, SmileyChris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sep 19, 11:44 pm, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Now we just need to get someone to put it on the site... > > > > > +1. Easy to do, looks good. > > > > +1. It's excellent. > > +1. Very nice work. > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On Sep 21, 10:29 pm, Matt Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 21, 2007, at 2:22 PM, SmileyChris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 19, 11:44 pm, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Now we just need to get someone to put it on the site... > > > +1. Easy to do, looks good. > > +1. It's excellent. +1. Very nice work. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On Sep 21, 2007, at 2:22 PM, SmileyChris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 19, 11:44 pm, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Now we just need to get someone to put it on the site... > > +1. Easy to do, looks good. +1. It's excellent. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On Sep 19, 11:44 pm, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now we just need to get someone to put it on the site... +1. Easy to do, looks good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
I absolutely agree; I think Ned's icon looks great. A favicon would make the Django site more professional, and that cannot be a bad thing. On Sep 19, 6:44 am, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree that a favicon is one of those fit-and-finish touches that helps > complete a website. Attached are my attempts. I agree with Todd that > "dj" is a better reminder of Django, and the color should be greener > (look at the badges to see that Wilson didn't slavishly follow the deep > green of the logos when making smaller versions of it). I've also > rejiggered the letters a bit to avoid smeary-looking blurs. > > Now we just need to get someone to put it on the site... > > --Ned. > > > > Todd O'Bryan wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:29 +, Johann C. Rocholl wrote: > > >> On Sep 17, 10:17 am, "Justin Lilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> I personally would also like a favicon for the django sites. I took the > >>> liberty of creating one using django's colors and fonts (stole the d from > >>> the logo). > > >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1397125183/ > > >> Here's another attempt, with improved vertical alignment > >> (mathematically perfect), and in Windows ICO format: > >>http://johann.rocholl.net/django-icon/favicon.ico > > > While I'm +0 on the favicon thing, I personally think "d" is > > insufficient and "dj" would be much more identifiable as uniquely > > Django. > > > Todd > > -- > Ned Batchelder,http://nedbatchelder.com > > django-favicon.png > 1KViewDownload > > django-favicon.ico > 1KDownload --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
I agree that a favicon is one of those fit-and-finish touches that helps complete a website. Attached are my attempts. I agree with Todd that "dj" is a better reminder of Django, and the color should be greener (look at the badges to see that Wilson didn't slavishly follow the deep green of the logos when making smaller versions of it). I've also rejiggered the letters a bit to avoid smeary-looking blurs. Now we just need to get someone to put it on the site... --Ned. Todd O'Bryan wrote: > On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:29 +, Johann C. Rocholl wrote: > >> On Sep 17, 10:17 am, "Justin Lilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I personally would also like a favicon for the django sites. I took the >>> liberty of creating one using django's colors and fonts (stole the d from >>> the logo). >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1397125183/ >>> >> Here's another attempt, with improved vertical alignment >> (mathematically perfect), and in Windows ICO format: >> http://johann.rocholl.net/django-icon/favicon.ico >> >> > > While I'm +0 on the favicon thing, I personally think "d" is > insufficient and "dj" would be much more identifiable as uniquely > Django. > > Todd > > > > > > -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- <><>
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
I second Todds suggestion. I'm also just +0 on the whole affair. While it would be nice I think it has far surpassed the effort needed. On 9/19/07, Todd O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:29 +, Johann C. Rocholl wrote: > > On Sep 17, 10:17 am, "Justin Lilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I personally would also like a favicon for the django sites. I took > the > > > liberty of creating one using django's colors and fonts (stole the d > from > > > the logo). > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1397125183/ > > > > Here's another attempt, with improved vertical alignment > > (mathematically perfect), and in Windows ICO format: > > http://johann.rocholl.net/django-icon/favicon.ico > > > > While I'm +0 on the favicon thing, I personally think "d" is > insufficient and "dj" would be much more identifiable as uniquely > Django. > > Todd > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:29 +, Johann C. Rocholl wrote: > On Sep 17, 10:17 am, "Justin Lilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I personally would also like a favicon for the django sites. I took the > > liberty of creating one using django's colors and fonts (stole the d from > > the logo). > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1397125183/ > > Here's another attempt, with improved vertical alignment > (mathematically perfect), and in Windows ICO format: > http://johann.rocholl.net/django-icon/favicon.ico > While I'm +0 on the favicon thing, I personally think "d" is insufficient and "dj" would be much more identifiable as uniquely Django. Todd --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On Sep 17, 10:17 am, "Justin Lilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I personally would also like a favicon for the django sites. I took the > liberty of creating one using django's colors and fonts (stole the d from > the logo). > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1397125183/ Here's another attempt, with improved vertical alignment (mathematically perfect), and in Windows ICO format: http://johann.rocholl.net/django-icon/favicon.ico Maybe we could move the "d" left or right just a little to reduce aliasing on the right edge. What do you think? The Makefile, source PNG and intermediate files are also available: http://johann.rocholl.net/django-icon/ http://johann.rocholl.net/django-icon/Makefile http://johann.rocholl.net/django-icon/d.png I've used the "d" from the big logo: http://media.djangoproject.com/img/logos/django-logo-negative.png http://www.djangoproject.com/community/logos/ It should be possible to use Apache with mod_rewrite to serve the favicon.ico file statically, like this (in the Directory block for the document root): RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / RewriteRule ^(favicon.ico|robots.txt)$ static/$1 [L] And then do the following: SetHandler None Just my 2 cents, Johann --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On 18/09/2007, Justin Lilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I personally would also like a favicon for the django sites. I took the
> liberty of creating one using django's colors and fonts (stole the d from
> the logo).
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1397125183/
I created something very similar for my own use, which combined with a
greasemonkey script to trim the page titles of the documentation ("Django |
Formfields & Manipulators | Django Documentation" -> "Formfields &
Manipulators") makes it a lot easier for me to navigate django docs in
Firefox. (the script is below if anyone is interested.)
My take: If someone has prepared a reasonable icon, why *not* use it?
Rob :)
// ==UserScript==
// @name Django Documentation TabMaster
// @namespace http://onetrackmind.co.nz/greasemonkey_scripts
// @descriptionSimplify the Django documentation page titles so they can
be seen more easily in Tabs
// @includehttp://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/*
// ==/UserScript==
// Normally page titles are like this: "Django | Formfields & Manipulators |
Django Documentation"
// We change it to be just the Page title and then add an icon to
distinguish it from other tabs
// change the title
var title_parts = document.title.split(' | ');
if (title_parts.length == 3) {
document.title = title_parts[1]
}
// set the favicon
var icon = document.createElement("link");
icon.rel = "shortcut icon";
icon.href = "/path/to/django_favicon.png";
icon.type = "image/png";
document.documentElement.firstChild.appendChild(icon);
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Re: Visual recognition of Django website
I personally would also like a favicon for the django sites. I took the liberty of creating one using django's colors and fonts (stole the d from the logo). http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1397125183/ Hope that is useful, -justin On 9/17/07, Mikkel Høgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sep 17, 3:33 pm, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 15, 10:22 pm, Mikkel Høgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > To illustrate my point, take a look at this image, a screenshot of a > > > very normal Firefox tab bar of mine: > http://mikkel.hoegh.org/galleries/odd_stuff/i_3_favicons?size=_original > > > It's much easier for me to find what I need by help of favicons - and > > > yes, most of the time, I have so many tabs open that I cannot see the > > > title of the web pages. > > > > Easy, Django is the one without a favicon... oh wait, there's lots of > > them in there.. I presume you're complaining to all of the other sites > > that don't have them too? > > Ideally, I should be, shouldn't I? Regardless, I don't see how helping > all kinds of strangers get better branding on their websites. I do see > the benefit strengthening the Django brand, however, since in open > source, more interest equals more momentum. > > I'm not denying that my motivation here is somewhat selfish, but this > would be a small and quick thing to do. Granted, my Firefox habits are > perhaps not quite normal, but favicons remain a useful visual reminder. > > > > > -- Justin Lilly University of South Carolina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Visual recognition of Django website
On Sep 17, 3:33 pm, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 15, 10:22 pm, Mikkel Høgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To illustrate my point, take a look at this image, a screenshot of a > > very normal Firefox tab bar of > > mine:http://mikkel.hoegh.org/galleries/odd_stuff/i_3_favicons?size=_original > > It's much easier for me to find what I need by help of favicons - and > > yes, most of the time, I have so many tabs open that I cannot see the > > title of the web pages. > > Easy, Django is the one without a favicon... oh wait, there's lots of > them in there.. I presume you're complaining to all of the other sites > that don't have them too? Ideally, I should be, shouldn't I? Regardless, I don't see how helping all kinds of strangers get better branding on their websites. I do see the benefit strengthening the Django brand, however, since in open source, more interest equals more momentum. I'm not denying that my motivation here is somewhat selfish, but this would be a small and quick thing to do. Granted, my Firefox habits are perhaps not quite normal, but favicons remain a useful visual reminder. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
