Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Comment (by Mariusz Felisiak ):

 In [changeset:"5d62beb61a7d5a6bb2755d2cdabc8e31f462391f" 5d62beb6]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
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 [4.0.x] Refs #32956 -- Capitalized HTTP/HTTPS in comments, docs, and
 docstrings.

 Backport of 7ef0bc922c0a78667ed8cbf5f85845b627ccbdf8 from main
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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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 In [changeset:"7ef0bc922c0a78667ed8cbf5f85845b627ccbdf8" 7ef0bc9]:
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 Refs #32956 -- Capitalized HTTP/HTTPS in comments, docs, and docstrings.
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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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 In [changeset:"6aa917383faaa80e70c6a8a8bc0f52f088434a84" 6aa9173]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="6aa917383faaa80e70c6a8a8bc0f52f088434a84"
 [4.0.x] Refs #32956 -- Changed docs to treat the acronym HTTP
 phonetically.

 Backport of 69b0736fad1d1f0197409ca025b7bcdf5666ae62 from main
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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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 In [changeset:"69b0736fad1d1f0197409ca025b7bcdf5666ae62" 69b0736]:
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 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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 In [changeset:"8208381ba6a3d1613bb746617062ccf1a6a28591" 8208381b]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
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 Refs #32956 -- Corrected spelling of daylight saving time.

 AP Stylebook: Saving not savings, no hyphen, and lowercase.
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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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 In [changeset:"f9b7704ab38d82d1de0c26deb542e497ebf14df6" f9b7704a]:
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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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 Refs #32956 -- Corrected usage of "insure" and "assure".
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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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 Refs #32956 -- Updated words ending in -wards.

 AP styleguide: Virtually none of the words ending with -wards end with
 an s.
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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Changes (by Mariusz Felisiak):

 * status:  assigned => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 In 1024b5e74a7166313ad4e4975a15e90dccd3ec5f:

 Fixed 32956 -- Lowercased spelling of "web" and "web framework" where
 appropriate.

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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 In [changeset:"1cba3207867fb168788ad6120770d0398b6b2807" 1cba320]:
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 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
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 Refs #32956 -- Changed "afterwards" to "afterward" in docs and comments.

 This also removes unnecessary comments with the previous spelling.

 AP Stylebook has a short entry to advise the preferred spelling for
 "en-us". "Afterwards" is preferred in British English.
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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Comment (by Carlton Gibson):

 Hey David. Good work! :)

 I think best to keep the scope narrow, otherwise it gets unwieldy — it
 becomes impossible to say when the ticket is addressed. (We can always add
 `Refs` commits, or small ones under the typos don't need a ticket rule.)
 But, yes, if we can make the style more consistent, presumably that's for
 the win.

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Comment (by David Smith):

 > AP Styleguide should be treated as the Black for writing

 I've purchased a copy of the stylebook and I've already spotted a few
 words where the recomended approach is not followed. e.g. It is Afterward
 not afterwards (the latter seems to be "British"), also it's Adviser not
 Advisor.

 I wonder if the scope of this ticket could be widened to capture adherence
 to the AP Stylebook rather than than just a few words?

 We should still assess each change on it's own merrits.

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Comment (by Jacob Walls):

 Sure, if inconsistent, that could be cleaned up, also.

 I think "Django web framework" would do it. If we're modernizing "web",
 "web framework" is just as valid as a noun as "learning management
 system." I don't think it needs to be capitalized and brought into the
 "brand" ... [clears throat:] "Django Web Framework: The web framework for
 perfectionists..." etc. No good.

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Comment (by David Smith):

 What do you all think about the phrase 'Django Web Framework'. That sounds
 like a name / title to me and should all be capitalised. There are places
 in the docs with the project being called the Django Web Framework.

 Having said that I thought the project is styled just 'Django' and so the
 words web framework are describing what it is and should be lower cased?
 Feels like there may have been a re-brand at some time? 樂

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Comment (by Carlton Gibson):

 I think we discussed in on https://github.com/django/django/pull/13981—
 which matches the tweet date.

 We stuck with `Web` for not having a clearer answer, but in the subsequent
 discussion Simon Willison made the (nice I think) suggestion that the AP
 Styleguide should be treated as the Black for writing. Given the `en-us`
 locale I think that's a good policy, so +1 (If only it were automated...
 :)

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Comment (by Tim Graham):

 Please update
 [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/internals/contributing/writing-
 documentation/#commonly-used-terms Commonly used terms] as appropriate.

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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Comment (by David Smith):

 Thanks Mariusz,

 For the link on previous discussion it was a Twitter thread.  I've
 provided a couple of links, unfortunately
 Tim Berners-Lee didn't respond 

 https://twitter.com/carltongibson/status/1367106089892913155?s=19

 https://twitter.com/carltongibson/status/1367197635174621190?s=19

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Re: [Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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#32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al
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 Reporter:  David Smith  |Owner:  David
 Type:   |  Smith
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:  Documentation|  Version:  3.2
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
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Changes (by Mariusz Felisiak):

 * owner:  nobody => David Smith
 * status:  new => assigned
 * type:  Uncategorized => Cleanup/optimization
 * component:  Uncategorized => Documentation
 * stage:  Unreviewed => Accepted


Comment:

 Thanks, I assigned it to you :)

 I'm pretty sure that we've discussed this in some PR but I cannot find it,
 if you remember where it was please add a link.

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[Django] #32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al

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#32956: Modernise spellings of Web, Email et al
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   Reporter:  David Smith|  Owner:  nobody
   Type:  Uncategorized  | Status:  new
  Component:  Uncategorized  |Version:  3.2
   Severity:  Normal |   Keywords:
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Patch needs improvement:  0  |  Easy pickings:  0
  UI/UX:  0  |
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 Historically it was 'The Web' but as language has evolved it is now the
 'web' with a lower case w.

 Popular style guides of the NYT, AP and the Guardian newspaper in the UK
 all use the lower case version. This lower case preference is also true of
 other tech words such as email, and we should audit for those as well as
 part of this ticket.

 
https://web.archive.org/web/20150714234606/https://www.thewire.com/national/2013/10
 /tweet-and-email-are-now-fit-print/70864/

 https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/716279539052191746?s=19

 https://www.theguardian.com/guardian-observer-style-guide-w

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