Re: Custom User

2014-09-30 Thread Lachlan Musicman
use list_display:

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/admin/#django.contrib.admin.ModelAdmin.list_display

Cheers
L.

On 1 October 2014 13:11, Sachin Tiwari  wrote:
> Ok sorry for incomplete description, I added a field  phone number in user
> profile  for eg  when we click on add user button it will show username,
> password and in my case it will show phone number also  but it will not be
> displayed after saving it.
>
> I add
>
> from django.contrib.auth.models import User
>
> class Employee(models.Model):
> user = models.OneToOneField(User)
> phone_no = models.IntegerField(max_length=10)
>
> This code in admin.py
>
> class EmployeeInline(admin.StackedInline):
> model = Employee
> can_delete = False
> verbose_name_plural = 'phon_no'
>
> # Define a new User admin
> class UserAdmin(UserAdmin):
> inlines = (EmployeeInline, )
>
> # Re-register UserAdmin
> admin.site.unregister(User)
> admin.site.register(User, UserAdmin)
>
> Now I want to show it with main users list page.
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:20:34 PM UTC+5:30, Sachin Tiwari wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I want to display a phone number field at users list page,
>>
>> Username  emailAddress  FirstName  LastName   staffstatus  PhoneNumber
>> sachin  a...@g.com sachintiwari  True
>> 000
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Custom User

2014-09-30 Thread Sachin Tiwari
Ok sorry for incomplete description, I added a field  phone number in user 
profile  for eg  when we click on add user button it will show username, 
password and in my case it will show phone number also  but it will not be 
displayed after saving it. 

I add 

from django.contrib.auth.models import User
class Employee(models.Model):
user = models.OneToOneField(User)
phone_no = models.IntegerField(max_length=10)

*This code in admin.py*

class EmployeeInline(admin.StackedInline):
model = Employee
can_delete = False
verbose_name_plural = 'phon_no'
# Define a new User adminclass UserAdmin(UserAdmin):
inlines = (EmployeeInline, )
# Re-register UserAdminadmin.site.unregister(User)admin.site.register(User, 
UserAdmin)

Now I want to show it with main users list page.


On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:20:34 PM UTC+5:30, Sachin Tiwari wrote:
>
> Hi 
>
> I want to display a phone number field at users list page,
>
> Username  emailAddress  FirstName  LastName   staffstatus  PhoneNumber
> sachin  a...@g.com sachintiwari  True 
>000
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Config: DB or git?

2014-09-30 Thread Jorge Andrés Vergara Ebratt
I've been checking out python-decouple and I have to say it's pretty easy,
it replaces django-dotenv, django-getenv and django-autoenv for those
working in a 12factorish way

2014-09-30 13:29 GMT-05:00 Arthur Alvim :

> There's a really nice project called python-decouple. (
> https://github.com/henriquebastos/python-decouple/)
>
> You can store you vars on .ini or .env files and ignore then on git.
> Install
>
> pip install python-decouple
>
> Usage
>
> On your settings.py.
>
>1.
>
>Import the config object:
>
>from decouple import config
>
>2.
>
>Retrieve the configuration parameters:
>
>SECRET_KEY = config('SECRET_KEY')DEBUG = config('DEBUG', default=False, 
> cast=bool)EMAIL_HOST = config('EMAIL_HOST', default='localhost')EMAIL_PORT = 
> config('EMAIL_PORT', default=25, cast=int)
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> 2014-09-30 14:30 GMT-03:00 Vernon D. Cole :
>
>> 12-factor is all the rage, and they have some very good ideas that ought
>> to be followed.  But insisting that environment variables are the only
>> correct way of storing settings, is, well, just plain wrong. [ Note: I have
>> 40 years of experience, I recognize a fad when I see it. ] All of those
>> values have to get _into_ the environment variables somehow, and that means
>> that somewhere there is a disk file which has them in it.  Is it really
>> safer to have them written in some language other than Python so that you
>> have to have a special program to read them?  I doubt it.
>>
>> So my preference is to use a structured settings arrangement, where the
>> file which is referenced by DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE imports settings.py (not
>> vice-verso).
>> That outside settings module, called salt_settings.py on my systems, is
>> written by the SaltStack "state" which deploys my server.
>> The same "state" also creates the database, the nginx configulation, and
>> the uWSGI configuration, so the same passwords, sockets, database names,
>> etc, are used on both sides of an interface.
>> The sensitive data, such as passwords, are kept in a Salt Pillar
>> structure, which is in a (highly protected) repo, separate from the salt
>> "state" files, which are in a separate repo from the application.  Three
>> purposes, three repos.
>>
>> Why SaltStack and not one of the other configuration engines mentioned
>> above?  Because Salt, like django, is written using a Python templating
>> system.  You do not program your configuration in Ruby (Puppet and Chef) or
>> Python (fabric), but lay it out in nice, readable, white-space sensitive
>> YAML files, with Jinja templates where needed.
>> I have an over-simplified example at
>> https://github.com/eHealthAfrica/salt_demo
>> --
>> Venon Cole
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 29, 2014 2:05:37 PM UTC+1, guettli wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> of course we separate data from code:
>>>
>>>   - code belongs into version control (git)
>>>   - data belongs into a database (postgres)
>>>
>>> But where does configuration belong?
>>>
>>> Since I am a developer I like version control.
>>>
>>> But the longer I think about this question, I think
>>> the perfect configuration for an app just contains
>>> one entry: How to connect to the DB.
>>>
>>> Sooner or later you want things to editable via an admin interface.
>>>
>>> And if you look at big systems like SAP. There is only very little
>>> config in files.
>>>
>>> I think config should be done in the database, not files. It is hard to
>>> accept
>>> this, since version control is great for files, and not so good for
>>> databases,
>>> but I think it is the way to go.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>>Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> http://thomas-guettler.de/
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Re: Config: DB or git?

2014-09-30 Thread Arthur Alvim
There's a really nice project called python-decouple. (
https://github.com/henriquebastos/python-decouple/)

You can store you vars on .ini or .env files and ignore then on git.
Install

pip install python-decouple

Usage

On your settings.py.

   1.

   Import the config object:

   from decouple import config

   2.

   Retrieve the configuration parameters:

   SECRET_KEY = config('SECRET_KEY')DEBUG = config('DEBUG',
default=False, cast=bool)EMAIL_HOST = config('EMAIL_HOST',
default='localhost')EMAIL_PORT = config('EMAIL_PORT', default=25,
cast=int)





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2014-09-30 14:30 GMT-03:00 Vernon D. Cole :

> 12-factor is all the rage, and they have some very good ideas that ought
> to be followed.  But insisting that environment variables are the only
> correct way of storing settings, is, well, just plain wrong. [ Note: I have
> 40 years of experience, I recognize a fad when I see it. ] All of those
> values have to get _into_ the environment variables somehow, and that means
> that somewhere there is a disk file which has them in it.  Is it really
> safer to have them written in some language other than Python so that you
> have to have a special program to read them?  I doubt it.
>
> So my preference is to use a structured settings arrangement, where the
> file which is referenced by DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE imports settings.py (not
> vice-verso).
> That outside settings module, called salt_settings.py on my systems, is
> written by the SaltStack "state" which deploys my server.
> The same "state" also creates the database, the nginx configulation, and
> the uWSGI configuration, so the same passwords, sockets, database names,
> etc, are used on both sides of an interface.
> The sensitive data, such as passwords, are kept in a Salt Pillar
> structure, which is in a (highly protected) repo, separate from the salt
> "state" files, which are in a separate repo from the application.  Three
> purposes, three repos.
>
> Why SaltStack and not one of the other configuration engines mentioned
> above?  Because Salt, like django, is written using a Python templating
> system.  You do not program your configuration in Ruby (Puppet and Chef) or
> Python (fabric), but lay it out in nice, readable, white-space sensitive
> YAML files, with Jinja templates where needed.
> I have an over-simplified example at
> https://github.com/eHealthAfrica/salt_demo
> --
> Venon Cole
>
>
> On Monday, September 29, 2014 2:05:37 PM UTC+1, guettli wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> of course we separate data from code:
>>
>>   - code belongs into version control (git)
>>   - data belongs into a database (postgres)
>>
>> But where does configuration belong?
>>
>> Since I am a developer I like version control.
>>
>> But the longer I think about this question, I think
>> the perfect configuration for an app just contains
>> one entry: How to connect to the DB.
>>
>> Sooner or later you want things to editable via an admin interface.
>>
>> And if you look at big systems like SAP. There is only very little config
>> in files.
>>
>> I think config should be done in the database, not files. It is hard to
>> accept
>> this, since version control is great for files, and not so good for
>> databases,
>> but I think it is the way to go.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Güttler
>> http://thomas-guettler.de/
>>
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Re: Config: DB or git?

2014-09-30 Thread Vernon D. Cole
12-factor is all the rage, and they have some very good ideas that ought to 
be followed.  But insisting that environment variables are the only correct 
way of storing settings, is, well, just plain wrong. [ Note: I have 40 
years of experience, I recognize a fad when I see it. ] All of those values 
have to get _into_ the environment variables somehow, and that means that 
somewhere there is a disk file which has them in it.  Is it really safer to 
have them written in some language other than Python so that you have to 
have a special program to read them?  I doubt it.

So my preference is to use a structured settings arrangement, where the 
file which is referenced by DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE imports settings.py (not 
vice-verso).  
That outside settings module, called salt_settings.py on my systems, is 
written by the SaltStack "state" which deploys my server.
The same "state" also creates the database, the nginx configulation, and 
the uWSGI configuration, so the same passwords, sockets, database names, 
etc, are used on both sides of an interface.
The sensitive data, such as passwords, are kept in a Salt Pillar structure, 
which is in a (highly protected) repo, separate from the salt "state" 
files, which are in a separate repo from the application.  Three purposes, 
three repos.

Why SaltStack and not one of the other configuration engines mentioned 
above?  Because Salt, like django, is written using a Python templating 
system.  You do not program your configuration in Ruby (Puppet and Chef) or 
Python (fabric), but lay it out in nice, readable, white-space sensitive 
YAML files, with Jinja templates where needed. 
I have an over-simplified example at 
https://github.com/eHealthAfrica/salt_demo
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On Monday, September 29, 2014 2:05:37 PM UTC+1, guettli wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> of course we separate data from code: 
>
>   - code belongs into version control (git) 
>   - data belongs into a database (postgres) 
>
> But where does configuration belong? 
>
> Since I am a developer I like version control. 
>
> But the longer I think about this question, I think 
> the perfect configuration for an app just contains 
> one entry: How to connect to the DB. 
>
> Sooner or later you want things to editable via an admin interface. 
>
> And if you look at big systems like SAP. There is only very little config 
> in files. 
>
> I think config should be done in the database, not files. It is hard to 
> accept 
> this, since version control is great for files, and not so good for 
> databases, 
> but I think it is the way to go. 
>
> What do you think? 
>
>Thomas 
>
>
>
> -- 
> Thomas Güttler 
> http://thomas-guettler.de/ 
>

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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Tim Chase
On 2014-09-30 09:28, Mark Caglienzi wrote:
> I agree with other advices to start with Django 1.7.
> Django is very stable and the new functionalities are always
> introduced in a very sane way.

I haven't seen any discussion of the deployment platform.  I would
also recommend 1.7 for green-field development, but I had to drop
down to 1.6 on one recent project because my deployment host only
offered python2.6 (well, and 2.4, but THAT was OLD) and Django 1.7
uses some 2.7 features.

-tkc



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Re: Config: DB or git?

2014-09-30 Thread Tom Evans
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Alejandro Varas G.
 wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> El 29/09/2014 10:05, "Thomas Güttler"  escribió:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> of course we separate data from code:
>>
>>  - code belongs into version control (git)
>>  - data belongs into a database (postgres)
>>
>> But where does configuration belong?
>
> "To the environment"
>
> A good practice is to place config in the environment[0] and load it from
> code.
>
> 0 - http://12factor.net/config
>

I don't want to start a holy war, but I 100% disagree with putting
configuration in to the environment.

First of all, how does it get in the environment in the first place?
You must write a shell script that puts it in the environment. It may
not be a complex shell script; but it is a shell script.

A main part of maintaining a software project is managing
configuration changes. The best way of managing configuration changes
is store your configuration in a VCS in order to track changes.

So you add your shell script that configures your environment to a VCS¹.

Now your configuration is still "in code", but its not in "your code",
and now it's not even in the same language. About the only good thing
that is achieved is that the configuration is in a separate
repository, but that is orthogonal to sticking your DB credentials in
to the environment - you could do that with any configuration file.

Finally, the environment is a very public place to put things. The
environment is passed to any subprocesses you spawn, and included in
any debug emails. Django goes to some trouble to scrub passwords from
the settings it puts in debug emails; I don't see anything in the
Django docs about it scrubbing the environment..

Cheers

Tom

¹ Now, some wise-ass is going to come along and say "Oh no, thats not
what you do, you put the environment settings in to puppet/chef/etc".
You don't store your puppet configuration in VCS? *How* are you
managing change exactly?

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Re: Custom User

2014-09-30 Thread monoBOT
You aren't asking anything.

2014-09-30 11:44 GMT+01:00 Sachin Tiwari :

> Hi Tundebabzy,
>
> Am I asking something wrong? please help me if possible.
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:20:34 PM UTC+5:30, Sachin Tiwari wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I want to display a phone number field at users list page,
>>
>> Username  emailAddress  FirstName  LastName   staffstatus
>> PhoneNumber
>> sachin  a...@g.com sachintiwari  True
>>000
>>
>>
>>
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Including JS/CSS in reusable widget library

2014-09-30 Thread Thomas Güttler

The way django handles static media works very well for js/css files which are 
included
in the library.

But if you want to build in external js/css files it gets ugly.

For example nice django-selectable widget. Has a long documentation on how to
include jquery-ui:

http://django-selectable.readthedocs.org/en/latest/quick-start.html#including-jquery-jquery-ui

I came across this, because we use django-selectable in one project with 
success, but
it failed in an other. The reason was the missing jquery-ui js-files.

Ain't there a better solution for this?

Documentation like the above pages are good. But it is even better if there is
a common way how to handle this in the django world.


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Re: Custom User

2014-09-30 Thread Babatunde Akinyanmi
Your question is vague. You need to be specific about what you want to do.
Let us see what you have tried and let us see the stack trace of any error.

Otherwise, your question seems like "hi, I want to build a car".

When you put in the details i can assure you that answers will start flying
in.
On 30 Sep 2014 11:44, "Sachin Tiwari"  wrote:

> Hi Tundebabzy,
>
> Am I asking something wrong? please help me if possible.
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:20:34 PM UTC+5:30, Sachin Tiwari wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I want to display a phone number field at users list page,
>>
>> Username  emailAddress  FirstName  LastName   staffstatus
>> PhoneNumber
>> sachin  a...@g.com sachintiwari  True
>>000
>>
>>
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Re: Need example to implement sql (dictionary) translations

2014-09-30 Thread robert brook


 Person.objects.raw('SELECT * FROM some_other_table', translations=name_map)

That does not work.

Printing out the results from above gives me the following.




How do I convert this into a sql result, and or a dictionary?

The row above 
On Monday, September 29, 2014 1:11:51 PM UTC-4, robert brook wrote:
>
> From the django project web site, I am trying to implement the following 
> code and have it spit out the dictionary form of the sql.
>
> Does anyone have an example of how this is done.
>
> The code below is from the project web page
>
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/topics/db/sql/
>
>
> When I execute the 2 lines below I retrieve the following
> 
>
> Does anyone have an example so that  I can get this into a dictionary 
> format so that I can send it back to the web page for consumption?
>
> >>> name_map = {'first': 'first_name', 'last': 'last_name', 'bd': 
> >>> 'birth_date', 'pk': 'id'}>>> Person.objects.raw('SELECT * FROM 
> >>> some_other_table', translations=name_map)
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Re: Custom User

2014-09-30 Thread Sachin Tiwari
Hi Tundebabzy,

Am I asking something wrong? please help me if possible.


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> Hi 
>
> I want to display a phone number field at users list page,
>
> Username  emailAddress  FirstName  LastName   staffstatus  PhoneNumber
> sachin  a...@g.com sachintiwari  True 
>000
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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Muhammad Ahmed
Thank James for the insight about LTS. 

As I am just learning Django and not yet working professionally. Hence I 
wanted to avoid any outdated version. However, I felt Django 1.4 is good. 

I may use Django 1.4 back after having checked 1.7. :)

Thanks again for your time and valuable opinion. 



On Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:01:08 UTC+5, James Schneider wrote:
>
> Not to throw a wrench in to this conversation, but it should be noted that 
> Django 1.4 is considered the LTS (long term support) version, and 
> is acceptable for production use if you do not need any of the fancy 
> features in 1.7.
>
> If you are looking at a small project and don't mind upgrading between 
> version releases, or you have need for some new feature in the Django 
> core, 1.7 would be the way to go. If you are looking at a large long 
> standing project, I would consider 1.4 for stability and minimal required 
> security updates. I don't believe that the next LTS version has been 
> announced yet, so I suspect 1.4 will be supported for the next year or so 
> at minimum.
>
>
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/internals/release-process/#long-term-support-lts-releases
>
> The version of Python to use probably should follow similar guidelines 
> (2.7 being well established while 3.X is the new version with 
> enhancements). The version available on your servers by default will 
> probably also help drive this decision unless you are comfortable 
> installing the version you want (although both 2.7 and 3.X are generally 
> both easily made available on moderately recent versions of the major OS'). 
> Availability of needed libraries is also a key factor, but the major ones 
> shouldn't be an issue.
>
> -James
>

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Re: Custom User

2014-09-30 Thread Babatunde Akinyanmi
Hello Sachin,

On 30 Sep 2014 10:50, "Sachin Tiwari"  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I want to display a phone number field at users list page,
>
> Username  emailAddress  FirstName  LastName   staffstatus  PhoneNumber
> sachin  a...@g.com sachintiwari  True
   000

I don't mean to be rude but Is this a question?

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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Muhammad Ahmed
Thank you Mark! Especially for book link. :) 
 

>
> I agree with other advices to start with Django 1.7. 
> Django is very stable and the new functionalities are always introduced 
> in a very sane way. Also the deprecations are done well, and the 
> documentation is one of the best I have ever seen for a framework. 
>
> If I can go a little further, I say that if you are a Django beginner, 
> you could follow a very good book: 
> Test-Driven Development with Python using Django, Selenium and 
> Javascript. The book's website is http://obeythetestinggoat.com/ 
>
> Happy Django-ing! :-) 
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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Muhammad Ahmed
Thank you Andreas! 

I started learning Python 3x and later on I used 2.7, hence the minor 
differences will probably not create problem for me.

Anyways thanks for your guidelines. 



On Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:35:05 UTC+5, Andréas Kühne wrote:
>
> You should be aware that using python 3 will give you small problems 
> regarding compability with several plugins for django. Python 3 is becoming 
> more adopted, but it is not always easy to find plugins that do what you 
> want in all situations. That being said, we have just rewritten our website 
> in django 1.6 and python 3.4, just to adopt the latest. It is possible, but 
> a bit harder. Also I find that I like the python 3 syntax better than 
> python 2, but that's just me :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Andréas
>
> 2014-09-30 8:27 GMT+02:00 Lachlan Musicman  >:
>
>> As to Python, it depends on what is available to you and you feel
>> comfortable with.
>>
>> Either python 2.7.x or 3.3 (or 3.4, which ever is newest) should be fine.
>>
>> cheers
>> L.
>>
>> On 30 September 2014 16:26, Lachlan Musicman > > wrote:
>> > Muhammad,
>> >
>> > Yes 1.7 is considered stable and is the best place to start.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > L.
>> >
>> > On 30 September 2014 16:21, Muhammad Ahmed > > wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I am learning Django by using version 1.4 and I have completed first 4
>> >> introductory lessons.
>> >>
>> >> However, I see that newest Django version is 1.7 and I feel that I am 
>> using
>> >> an outdated version.
>> >>
>> >> Being a newbie, I would like to ask that should I move to version 1.7 
>> and
>> >> which Django version is currently being used in "Professional 
>> Environments".
>> >>
>> >> Please guide which version (of both Python / Django) should I follow?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Muhammad Ahmed
>> >>
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>>
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Custom User

2014-09-30 Thread Sachin Tiwari
Hi 

I want to display a phone number field at users list page,

Username  emailAddress  FirstName  LastName   staffstatus  PhoneNumber
sachin  a...@g.com sachintiwari  True   
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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread James Schneider
Not to throw a wrench in to this conversation, but it should be noted that
Django 1.4 is considered the LTS (long term support) version, and
is acceptable for production use if you do not need any of the fancy
features in 1.7.

If you are looking at a small project and don't mind upgrading between
version releases, or you have need for some new feature in the Django
core, 1.7 would be the way to go. If you are looking at a large long
standing project, I would consider 1.4 for stability and minimal required
security updates. I don't believe that the next LTS version has been
announced yet, so I suspect 1.4 will be supported for the next year or so
at minimum.

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/internals/release-process/#long-term-support-lts-releases

The version of Python to use probably should follow similar guidelines (2.7
being well established while 3.X is the new version with enhancements). The
version available on your servers by default will probably also help drive
this decision unless you are comfortable installing the version you want
(although both 2.7 and 3.X are generally both easily made available on
moderately recent versions of the major OS'). Availability of
needed libraries is also a key factor, but the major ones shouldn't be an
issue.

-James



On Tuesday, September 30, 2014, Andreas Kuhne 
wrote:

> You should be aware that using python 3 will give you small problems
> regarding compability with several plugins for django. Python 3 is becoming
> more adopted, but it is not always easy to find plugins that do what you
> want in all situations. That being said, we have just rewritten our website
> in django 1.6 and python 3.4, just to adopt the latest. It is possible, but
> a bit harder. Also I find that I like the python 3 syntax better than
> python 2, but that's just me :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Andréas
>
> 2014-09-30 8:27 GMT+02:00 Lachlan Musicman  >:
>
>> As to Python, it depends on what is available to you and you feel
>> comfortable with.
>>
>> Either python 2.7.x or 3.3 (or 3.4, which ever is newest) should be fine.
>>
>> cheers
>> L.
>>
>> On 30 September 2014 16:26, Lachlan Musicman > > wrote:
>> > Muhammad,
>> >
>> > Yes 1.7 is considered stable and is the best place to start.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > L.
>> >
>> > On 30 September 2014 16:21, Muhammad Ahmed > > wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I am learning Django by using version 1.4 and I have completed first 4
>> >> introductory lessons.
>> >>
>> >> However, I see that newest Django version is 1.7 and I feel that I am
>> using
>> >> an outdated version.
>> >>
>> >> Being a newbie, I would like to ask that should I move to version 1.7
>> and
>> >> which Django version is currently being used in "Professional
>> Environments".
>> >>
>> >> Please guide which version (of both Python / Django) should I follow?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Muhammad Ahmed
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
>> > thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
>> > and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
>> > MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
>> > intelligent when talking to your friends.
>> > This post was STUPID.
>> >
>> ---
>> > The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
>> >
>> http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
>> thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
>> and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
>> MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
>> intelligent when talking to your friends.
>> This post was 

Exceptions in signal handlers pass silently

2014-09-30 Thread Thomas Güttler

I just discovered, that exceptions in signal handlers pass silently.

Is there a way to not silently ignore errors?

>>> import this


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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Andreas Kuhne
You should be aware that using python 3 will give you small problems
regarding compability with several plugins for django. Python 3 is becoming
more adopted, but it is not always easy to find plugins that do what you
want in all situations. That being said, we have just rewritten our website
in django 1.6 and python 3.4, just to adopt the latest. It is possible, but
a bit harder. Also I find that I like the python 3 syntax better than
python 2, but that's just me :-)

Regards,

Andréas

2014-09-30 8:27 GMT+02:00 Lachlan Musicman :

> As to Python, it depends on what is available to you and you feel
> comfortable with.
>
> Either python 2.7.x or 3.3 (or 3.4, which ever is newest) should be fine.
>
> cheers
> L.
>
> On 30 September 2014 16:26, Lachlan Musicman  wrote:
> > Muhammad,
> >
> > Yes 1.7 is considered stable and is the best place to start.
> >
> > Cheers
> > L.
> >
> > On 30 September 2014 16:21, Muhammad Ahmed 
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am learning Django by using version 1.4 and I have completed first 4
> >> introductory lessons.
> >>
> >> However, I see that newest Django version is 1.7 and I feel that I am
> using
> >> an outdated version.
> >>
> >> Being a newbie, I would like to ask that should I move to version 1.7
> and
> >> which Django version is currently being used in "Professional
> Environments".
> >>
> >> Please guide which version (of both Python / Django) should I follow?
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >> Muhammad Ahmed
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
> > thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
> > and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
> > MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
> > intelligent when talking to your friends.
> > This post was STUPID.
> >
> ---
> > The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
> >
> http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html
>
>
>
> --
> You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
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> and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
> MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
> intelligent when talking to your friends.
> This post was STUPID.
>
> ---
> The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
>
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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Mark Caglienzi
On 29 Sep 23:21, Muhammad Ahmed wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I am learning Django by using version 1.4 and I have completed first 4 
> introductory 
> lessons .
> 
> However, I see that newest Django version is 1.7 and I feel that I am using 
> an outdated version. 
> 
> Being a newbie, I would like to ask that should I move to version 1.7 and 
> which Django version is currently being used in "Professional 
> Environments". 
> 
> Please guide which version (of both Python / Django) should I follow? 

I agree with other advices to start with Django 1.7.
Django is very stable and the new functionalities are always introduced
in a very sane way. Also the deprecations are done well, and the
documentation is one of the best I have ever seen for a framework.

If I can go a little further, I say that if you are a Django beginner,
you could follow a very good book:
Test-Driven Development with Python using Django, Selenium and
Javascript. The book's website is http://obeythetestinggoat.com/

Happy Django-ing! :-)

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Re: Config: DB or git?

2014-09-30 Thread Thomas Güttler




I see configurable settings, like those in the settings module, as code 
settings, and those you would put in the DB as
user customizable settings. The former are meant to be changed by developers 
and sys admins, and the latter by website
users. In my opinion settings module changes are mostly related to staging or 
performance rather than user oriented.
Apart from there are a number of interesting Django apps in Djangopackages [1] 
that allow you to put your settings in
the DB.

[1] -> https://www.djangopackages.com/grids/g/configuration/

Regards


Thank you for this link. Unfortunately the feature "data store" is not 
evaluated up to now. But I created
a feature request: https://github.com/pydanny/djangopackages/issues/293


  Thomas

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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Muhammad Ahmed

>
> Thank you Lachlan Musicman.


Be Blessed.  

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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Lachlan Musicman
As to Python, it depends on what is available to you and you feel
comfortable with.

Either python 2.7.x or 3.3 (or 3.4, which ever is newest) should be fine.

cheers
L.

On 30 September 2014 16:26, Lachlan Musicman  wrote:
> Muhammad,
>
> Yes 1.7 is considered stable and is the best place to start.
>
> Cheers
> L.
>
> On 30 September 2014 16:21, Muhammad Ahmed  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am learning Django by using version 1.4 and I have completed first 4
>> introductory lessons.
>>
>> However, I see that newest Django version is 1.7 and I feel that I am using
>> an outdated version.
>>
>> Being a newbie, I would like to ask that should I move to version 1.7 and
>> which Django version is currently being used in "Professional Environments".
>>
>> Please guide which version (of both Python / Django) should I follow?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Muhammad Ahmed
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Re: Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Lachlan Musicman
Muhammad,

Yes 1.7 is considered stable and is the best place to start.

Cheers
L.

On 30 September 2014 16:21, Muhammad Ahmed  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am learning Django by using version 1.4 and I have completed first 4
> introductory lessons.
>
> However, I see that newest Django version is 1.7 and I feel that I am using
> an outdated version.
>
> Being a newbie, I would like to ask that should I move to version 1.7 and
> which Django version is currently being used in "Professional Environments".
>
> Please guide which version (of both Python / Django) should I follow?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Muhammad Ahmed
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Which Version of Django

2014-09-30 Thread Muhammad Ahmed
Hi, 

I am learning Django by using version 1.4 and I have completed first 4 
introductory 
lessons .

However, I see that newest Django version is 1.7 and I feel that I am using 
an outdated version. 

Being a newbie, I would like to ask that should I move to version 1.7 and 
which Django version is currently being used in "Professional 
Environments". 

Please guide which version (of both Python / Django) should I follow? 


Regards,


Muhammad Ahmed

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