Re: Serve different page to IE7/8?

[Max Countryman]

Conditional stylesheets vs CSS hacks? 

Paul Irish says the answer is neither: 
http://paulirish.com/2008/conditional-stylesheets-vs-css-hacks-answer-neither/

On Nov 21, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Victor Hooi wrote:

> I know this is a bit of a hack, but what's the best way to serve up a
> different template to those IE7 users?

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Re: Cherokee for home developing

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For example, if you are using uWSGI 0.9.2.6 you can use an XML document similar 
to this:


/srv/python-environments/voxinfinitus/
/srv/python-environments/
DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE=voxinfinitus.settings
django.core.handlers.wsgi:WSGIHandler()

6
/tmp/cherokee/voxi-live.sock


Make sure that the user that is executing Cherokee can write to your socket 
path.

Then whenever you want to see changes, just set up a script to rm the socket 
path. No need to reset uWSGI.

Good luck! Let me know if there's any other questions I might be able to help 
with.

On Nov 1, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Max Countryman wrote:

> Karim, I would set it up using a UNIX socket. Then all you have to do is rm 
> the socket path. :) There is no need to kill uWSGI in that case.
> 
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Karim Gorjux wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 01:27, Max Countryman <m...@me.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, absolutely. :D Good luck!
>> 
>> Max, I'm trying with uwsgi and Cherokee. Seems to work, but if I edit
>> the code, I have to kill the uwsgi process to see the modification on
>> the browser. Is that normal?
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Re: Cherokee for home developing

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Karim, I would set it up using a UNIX socket. Then all you have to do is rm the 
socket path. :) There is no need to kill uWSGI in that case.

On Nov 1, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Karim Gorjux wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 01:27, Max Countryman <m...@me.com> wrote:
>> Yes, absolutely. :D Good luck!
> 
> Max, I'm trying with uwsgi and Cherokee. Seems to work, but if I edit
> the code, I have to kill the uwsgi process to see the modification on
> the browser. Is that normal?
> 
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Re: Cherokee for home developing

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Yes, absolutely. :D Good luck!

On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Karim Gorjux wrote:

> Yes, I noted that when I edit a url and sometimes the code, I have to
> kill the fastcgi process to see the result in the browser. I think
> that I could run the fastcgi as explained in the django documentation:
> 
> ./manage.py runfcgi method=prefork socket=/home/user/mysite.sock
> pidfile=django.pid
> 
> and map in vim file a kill command
> 
> kill `cat $PIDFILE`

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Re: Cherokee for home developing

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This may be of use to anyone using any version of Cherokee prior to 1.09:

http://lists.octality.com/pipermail/cherokee/2010-September/013432.html

There are several threads that detail the manual set up process. But the key 
here is that the wizard is, as Roberto states, "(currently) totally broken," so 
don't use it! Manual set up is fairly intuitive and not difficult.

Karim, you may find that refreshing your project is easier with uWSGI as 
opposed to something like FastCGI, in reference to your question about having 
to restart Cherokee each time you make changes.

Regards,


Max

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Re: Cherokee for home developing

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Generally, yes.

If you're using a socket, you can rm the socket path each time you update. That 
will avoid the need to restart Cherokee.

On Oct 29, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Karim Gorjux wrote:

> I have just one question. While I'm editing the source of the project,
> to see the result I have always to restart the server or there is
> another way?
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Re: Cherokee for home developing

[Max Countryman]

Rob, 

I don't want to email you directly. I'm sure you're a nice guy and everything, 
but I'm on this list to contribute to the list. Please stop asking this. That 
*is* obnoxious.

I'm sorry you see my comments as unhelpful or "unconstructive[sic]", however 
please remember you are not the only one reading or contributing to this list; 
please don't be judge and jury, some people find that insufferable,

Thank you,


Max

On Oct 29, 2010, at 6:48 AM, Robbington wrote:

> Dear Paul and Max,
> 
> As I mentioned before please email me directly should you wish to
> continue this discussion further, and or create a new post. I feel it
> unfair to discuss this in this particular forum as it is unrelated to
> the original subject matter.
> 
> I meant no offense to Max, I can see how the word obnoxious can be
> construed as such and I apologise, I merely meant I felt his comments
> were unconstructive in context.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Robert Dean
> robbing...@hotmail.co.uk
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Re: Cherokee for home developing

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On Oct 29, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Robbington wrote:

> Actually I mentioned Uwsgi,

You missed where I referenced, where was here:

On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Karim Gorjux wrote:

> Now I solved all my problems working with settings.py. Seems that also
> the debug works, but If I'll be again in trouble I'll get a try at
> uwsgi.


Again, this covered in /great detail/ on the Cherokee list: currently the 
wizard produces a configuration and is broken, so there are other methods for 
manually setting up a source in Cherokee that uses uwsgi.

Anyway, my intent here was to help. It's ridiculous how everything has to be 
reduced to pedantic argumentation and sanctimonious advice about what to post 
where.

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Re: Cherokee for home developing

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He mentioned uwsgi. He should know that the wizard is currently broken. That 
means that it produces a configuration that doesn't work properly. Please refer 
to the Cherokee mailing list of you're unaware of these issues. It should be 
fixed in v1.09 which is coming soon. Thanks!

On Oct 28, 2010, at 14:51, Robbington  wrote:

> 
> Hi Max,
> 
> I am not sure what you mean by ' Do not use the uwsgi wizard: it's
> currently broken'?
> 
> Rob,
> 
> Ps, should you wish to discuss this further, perhaps it is better you
> email me directly, as to avoid filling Karims post with unnecessary
> messages.
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Re: Cherokee for home developing

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Oh I forgot to mention! Do not use the uwsgi wizard: it's currently broken. 
Expect a fix soon and refer to the various threads detailing the set up process 
without the wizard on Cherokee's mailing list. 

On Oct 28, 2010, at 14:06, Robbington  wrote:

> Glad to finally see some one using Cherokee with django. Dont just use
> it in development, its actually less memory intensive than apache as
> well as having an awesome admin interface.
> 
> Anyway enough plugging.
> 
> To avoid problems and for simplicty I would advise using Cherokee
> Uwsgi config to serve up your python code.
> 
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Re: Cherokee for home developing

[Max Countryman]

Rob, 

I have been using Cherokee for Django deployment for almost a year now. I know 
several other devs who prefer it as well. Also there's always some activity on 
the Cherokee list itself related to Django. 

On Oct 28, 2010, at 14:06, Robbington  wrote:

> Glad to finally see some one using Cherokee with django. Dont just use
> it in development, its actually less memory intensive than apache as
> well as having an awesome admin interface.
> 
> Anyway enough plugging.
> 
> To avoid problems and for simplicty I would advise using Cherokee
> Uwsgi config to serve up your python code.
> 
> Rob
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Re: What does an ideal django workflow setup look like?

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There was a great article on HN regarding project structure although now I 
can't seem to find it. Perhaps someone has it bookmarked?

On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:02, Ken  wrote:

> *I've Googled, but have not found any really organized and layman-
> friendly overview, which is why I came here*
> 
> I know how to get python/django working on my computer (PC or Mac) and
> have developed simple test apps using django's built-in dev server and
> a mysql back-end. So I can get things to work and don't need help on
> installing stuff.
> 
> But as a coding hobbyist, I don't know how to set up a pro workflow. I
> don't know best practices on how to setup and maintain a dev and
> production environment, how to efficiently publish to production, how
> to integrate all that into a version control system (i.e., git),
> basically anything that a pro coder at a startup would take for
> granted as "the way to do things".
> 
> I understand there are many different ways and products to use to
> setup a great workflow for developing in django, but would like to
> hear how you or your startup team (or corporate dev group) does it.
> Specifics would be amazing, as I need a little hand holding, i.e.
> please cover anything and everything that I should know in order to
> develop efficiently, robustly, and eventually collaboratively.
> 
> Basically, please explain it in a way that a layman can follow the
> steps and setup a workflow without pulling his hair out. =P
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Re: SITE_ID

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Have you set SITE_ID in your settings.py file and run 'python manage.py syncdb'?

On Sep 25, 2010, at 10:59 AM, craphunter wrote:

> Yes, I have read it, but I don't really get it. What ist the meaning?
> What do I have to do?!
> 
> Craphunter
> 
> On 25 Sep., 16:50, craphunter  wrote:
>> Hey,
>> 
>> I do have problem with SITE_ID. I don't really get this. What is it?
>> 
>> I am using the django registration from bitbucker. When I click on
>> register I get the following error-message:
>> 
>> You're using the Django "sites framework" without having set the
>> SITE_ID setting. Create a site in your database and set the SITE_ID
>> setting to fix this error.
>> 
>> Am I right that I do have to set an ID in my database?
>> 
>> For example
>> mysql > test.db table 1?
>> 
>> settings.py
>> 
>> SITE_ID = 1
>> 
>> Can somebody write me a little tutorial?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Craphunter
>> 
>> PS: Sorry, newbee!
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Re: SITE_ID

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http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/settings/?from=olddocs#site-id

On Sep 25, 2010, at 10:50 AM, craphunter wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> I do have problem with SITE_ID. I don't really get this. What is it?
> 
> I am using the django registration from bitbucker. When I click on
> register I get the following error-message:
> 
> You're using the Django "sites framework" without having set the
> SITE_ID setting. Create a site in your database and set the SITE_ID
> setting to fix this error.
> 
> Am I right that I do have to set an ID in my database?
> 
> For example
> mysql > test.db table 1?
> 
> settings.py
> 
> SITE_ID = 1
> 
> Can somebody write me a little tutorial?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Craphunter
> 
> PS: Sorry, newbee!
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Re: third party application with Django

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Why not set that up within Apache?

On Sep 3, 2010, at 4:30, Goran  wrote:

> I need to install some php application (forum) in some folder domain/
> forum How can I do this? Django 1.2 Appache with FastCgi, shared
> hosting. Is it possible to exclude url "domain/forum" from django
> somehow?
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Re: Multiple django projects

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Absolutely! :)

On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:12 PM, commonzenpython wrote:


hey, guys
is it possible to have multiple django projects in one server ?

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