Django.June: a Django get-together in western Massachusetts USA
Hi all, For those who don't follow the Django community aggregator I thought I'd send this out to the lists. I'm arranging an informal get-together of Django folks next month here in Northampton, MA. http://open.e-scribe.com/wiki/DjangoDotJune Here's a condensed version of the info from that page: Django.June - An informal meeting of Django web framework people Northampton, Massachusetts, USA - June 16, 2007 Here in Northampton, there's a fun annual music festival called Django in June. It's all about gypsy jazz -- performances, music clinics, and jam sessions. During the festival a small group of Django (web framework) developers are planning to get together. We'll do it during the day on June 16, with the evening free for gypsy jazz! This is an informal event in the "unconference" vein. I'm hoping to have several short talks and maybe even some collaborative coding. I'm perfectly happy to have the content be driven by the desires of the attendees. Northampton is two hours' drive from Boston, 3.5 hours from New York City. It's got a great pedestrian-friendly downtown, a vibrant music scene, art everywhere, five colleges within ten miles, and beautiful countryside all around. It's a liberal place. It's the kind of town that's always getting those "best places to live" and "top arts destination" awards. It might just be the Lawrence, Kansas of Massachusetts. -- For more, check out the website. Hope to see some of you there! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
thanks for the BadContent
Just wanted to offer my thanks to Adrian (and anybody else who worked on this) for adding some spam defense to the Trac server. For those of us who check the timeline often, it's a big relief. pb -- Paul Bissex http://e-scribe.com/news/ Northampton MA USA 01061-0847 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Having problems with inspectdb / introspection
> ValueError: year is out of range > > I'm not sure why "year is out of range" is a problem - maybe because > the table has TIMESTAMP column types? It's probably because you have invalid data (like -00-00) in those columns. I encountered this on some of my legacy MySQL tables. In my case I made the column nullable and then did something like this: UPDATE table SET col=NULL WHERE col='-00-00'; Also see this ticket for more discussion: http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/443 Good luck, pb -- http://e-scribe.com/news/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Best practice for separating Model and Control?
Ned, can you elaborate on what you dislike about combining the field definitions and the helper functions together in one file? As a practical matter I find that I need to have the model at hand to write helper functions, so for that reason alone I've come to appreciate having them all together, ActiveRecord style. I may feel differently after the models themselves have settled down (i.e. when I'm no longer adding/changing fields weekly). pb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DSN useful for database settings?
Here's another way to look at it, given that we are still at 0.91+: Besides inertia, what are the arguments in favor of the system Django currently uses? The only person I've seen address this is Jacob, who correctly noted in the ticket comments that some beginners would find the separate settings easier to understand. Imagine if the current situation were reversed -- Django supported DSNs only, and a ticket were filed to abandon them and change to the DATABASE_* style. How would that ticket fare? pb -- http://e-scribe.com/news/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: order by m2m field?
> It looks impossible on the SQL side. I thought you coud join tables, > order by a field in authors table and then get results with DISTINCT to > eliminate duplication from joining. But it appears that DISTINCT > requires you to select fields that you order by which ensures that > duplication would stay. > > So the only way I see is to get everything on the client side and sort > in memory retreiving author list for each entry and making it a > string... Meaning that it would kill the DB right after first 10 users > will make their first 10 records. I've been banging my head against some similar problems recently, mostly with legacy data that's poorly normalized. One optimization/hack that was suggested to me was adding a field that's only used for sorting (or selecting, as the case may be) -- like your hypothetical concatenated string -- and generating it at creation/update time with a pre-save hook. pb -- http://e-scribe.com/news/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: use a dsn for database details in settings.py ?
> Hi, I'm still new to django and have googled high and low for a way to > use a single dsn in the settings file instead of DATABASE_HOST, > DATABASE_USER, DATABASE_NAME, etc. No metion of it. Is there built > in support for this that I'm missing? > > If not, I am happy to submit a patch. +1. I've wanted to do this for a while. Let me know if you want help with the patch. pb -- http://e-scribe.com/news/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Suggestions wanted for keeping place in admin
> I haven't seen any patches that add this functionality. Here are a > couple of stop-gap solutions: > * She could bookmark the filtered change-list page and return to it > after editing the object. > > * From the filtered change-list page, she could open the > object-editing page in a new browser tab/window. > > Adrian OK, thanks. I think I'll suggest the new-tab approach (after I teach her about tabs!) pb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Suggestions wanted for keeping place in admin
I have a request from one of my admin users which seems reasonable, but I don't know how to satisfy it. She would like to have the admin "remember its place" when she edits individual records. That is, if she filters by X and Y criteria, then goes to the second page of results, then edits a single record there, she would like to *return to that same page in the same set of selected records* rather than being dumped back to the default view. A reasonable request from her perspective -- for example, her Filemaker database (which this system is replacing) does this. Are there any fixes available for this that I've missed? thanks pb -- http://e-scribe.com/news/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ordering by fields in related objects
> plugging the FK field into the ordering clause produces an > OpertationalError, "Unknown table > 'RELATED_TABLE_THAT_MOST_CERTAINLY_IS_KNOWN' in order clause." Sorry, I meant to say specifically that this happens when I search in the admin. pb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ordering by fields in related objects
This may be a dumb question but I've been banging my head against it for a while. Two questions, actually. (I'm using the M-R branch.) 1) How can I use a field in a related model in a Meta.ordering clause? E.g. I want my Articles sorted by Reporter.lastname 2) How can I use a computed value in a Meta.ordering clause? E.g. I want my Reporters sorted by Reporter.number_of_articles_this_week() BTW, plugging the FK field into the ordering clause produces an OpertationalError, "Unknown table 'RELATED_TABLE_THAT_MOST_CERTAINLY_IS_KNOWN' in order clause." If the answer to my above questions is "you can't, sorry," then I hereby volunteer to at least try making that error message more useful. Thanks in advance for any advice. pb -- http://e-scribe.com/news/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
applying strip() to submitted formfield values, especially numerics
I had a frustrated user today whose seemingly valid input into an IntegerField was getting rejected at the validation step (using my model's default manipulator). We eventually discovered a stray space at the end of his input. Is there a reason that formfield values destined for numeric Django model fields shouldn't just have whitespace stripped automaticaly? Seems like it would be a Good Thing, though I'm not sure where the best place is for it to happen. For the moment I'm considering the following in my view code: new_data = dict([(k, v.strip()) for k, v in request.POST.items()]) (I have no fields where leading or trailing whitespace is significant.) Any comments? I can't be the first person grappling with this, but I wasn't able to locate any prior discussion or tickets. pb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Overthinking urls.py?
I think rolling functionality similar to ABSOLUTE_URL_OVERRIDES into URLconfs is the way to go. As others have pointed out, get_absolute_url() doesn't cover enough ground and creates unnecessary coupling. Simon expresses it well here: http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/msg/98ee1a543c40e123 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
display_inline=True?
When viewing one object in the admin (say, a Landlord) I'd like to be able to display a list of related objects (say, Properties). The edit_inline feature is overkill, because the Properties don't need to be edited in place -- and they have too many fields to fit comfortably inline anyway. Basically I'm looking for a way to display a list of related objects (simple obj.__str__() values, or perhaps a few fields named in a Meta.inline_display tuple) that could be clicked on for detailed editing. (A nice refinement would be a JS checkpoint to make sure people weren't abandoning changes made to, e.g., the Landlord object.) Does anything like this exist? thanks pb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dreamhost - agh!
Adrian said: > I've never used Dreamhost, but I'll just toss in my two cents that > having a dedicated server, with root access, is well worth it. > ... it's still kinda-sorta affordable in the grand scheme > of things if you're serious about making Web apps. I totally agree. It's great to have root. If a dedicated server is too spendy there's also the virtual private server (VPS) option -- I've used Johncompanies.com's FreeBSD VPS service for the past two years, and it's been great. They offer modest discounts for open source developers, too. pb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
