Re: Design Tools any suggestions?

[dartdog]

Graph models looks really cool but for code already done as opposed to
planning it out! But I think I really want to give it a go.

On Jul 11, 11:17 am, Adam N  wrote:
> GraphModels in django-extensions can be helpful.
>
> http://code.google.com/p/django-command-extensions/wiki/GraphModels
>
> I had a bear of a time installing it on my Mac however.  Graphviz
> isn't Visio or a UML editor though so the utility of that program for
> model designing is kind of limited.
>
> On Jul 11, 11:16 am, dartdog  wrote:
>
> > Just looked through the Eclipse site, anyone have any opinions as to
> > which free UML tool is worth looking at? Lots there but many/most
> > inactive?
>
> > On Jul 11, 8:53 am, dartdog  wrote:
>
> > > Thank to both Unfortunately I'm on Windows Vista, so It looks like
> > > Umbrello is not yet ready, looks nice though,,and I've started off
> > > witheclipseso that particularUMLis out perhaps I'll take a closer
> > > look at theEclipseofferings...
>
> > > Any one else havebestpractices?? I'sm wondering what the Django
> > > dev's use, in some cases it seems that people are just moving right
> > > into code with little pre planning??
>
> > > On Jul 10, 10:32 pm, Streamweaver  wrote:
>
> > > > I use netbeans and there is aUMLplugin that you can download and use
> > > > for free.
>
> > > > On Jul 10, 10:43 pm, dartdog  wrote:
>
> > > > > Starting to noodle out some system design stuff for Django
> > > > > implementation does anyone have good ideas suggestions for useful
> > > > > tools to encompass db (model)  business logic and presentation
> > > > > components, flow and how to tie them together. It seems that the most
> > > > > obvious solution in freeware is dia?  It would be nice to be able to
> > > > > tie the result to lifecycle documentation?
>
> > > > > Thoughts?? Ideas, I'll run them down, with pointers!
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Re: Design Tools any suggestions?

[Adam N]

GraphModels in django-extensions can be helpful.

http://code.google.com/p/django-command-extensions/wiki/GraphModels

I had a bear of a time installing it on my Mac however.  Graphviz
isn't Visio or a UML editor though so the utility of that program for
model designing is kind of limited.

On Jul 11, 11:16 am, dartdog  wrote:
> Just looked through the Eclipse site, anyone have any opinions as to
> which free UML tool is worth looking at? Lots there but many/most
> inactive?
>
> On Jul 11, 8:53 am, dartdog  wrote:
>
> > Thank to both Unfortunately I'm on Windows Vista, so It looks like
> > Umbrello is not yet ready, looks nice though,,and I've started off
> > witheclipseso that particularUMLis out perhaps I'll take a closer
> > look at theEclipseofferings...
>
> > Any one else havebestpractices?? I'sm wondering what the Django
> > dev's use, in some cases it seems that people are just moving right
> > into code with little pre planning??
>
> > On Jul 10, 10:32 pm, Streamweaver  wrote:
>
> > > I use netbeans and there is aUMLplugin that you can download and use
> > > for free.
>
> > > On Jul 10, 10:43 pm, dartdog  wrote:
>
> > > > Starting to noodle out some system design stuff for Django
> > > > implementation does anyone have good ideas suggestions for useful
> > > > tools to encompass db (model)  business logic and presentation
> > > > components, flow and how to tie them together. It seems that the most
> > > > obvious solution in freeware is dia?  It would be nice to be able to
> > > > tie the result to lifecycle documentation?
>
> > > > Thoughts?? Ideas, I'll run them down, with pointers!
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Re: Design Tools any suggestions?

[dartdog]

Just looked through the Eclipse site, anyone have any opinions as to
which free UML tool is worth looking at? Lots there but many/most
inactive?

On Jul 11, 8:53 am, dartdog  wrote:
> Thank to both Unfortunately I'm on Windows Vista, so It looks like
> Umbrello is not yet ready, looks nice though,,and I've started off
> witheclipseso that particularUMLis out perhaps I'll take a closer
> look at theEclipseofferings...
>
> Any one else havebestpractices?? I'sm wondering what the Django
> dev's use, in some cases it seems that people are just moving right
> into code with little pre planning??
>
> On Jul 10, 10:32 pm, Streamweaver  wrote:
>
> > I use netbeans and there is aUMLplugin that you can download and use
> > for free.
>
> > On Jul 10, 10:43 pm, dartdog  wrote:
>
> > > Starting to noodle out some system design stuff for Django
> > > implementation does anyone have good ideas suggestions for useful
> > > tools to encompass db (model)  business logic and presentation
> > > components, flow and how to tie them together. It seems that the most
> > > obvious solution in freeware is dia?  It would be nice to be able to
> > > tie the result to lifecycle documentation?
>
> > > Thoughts?? Ideas, I'll run them down, with pointers!
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Re: Design Tools any suggestions?

[dartdog]

Thank to both Unfortunately I'm on Windows Vista, so It looks like
Umbrello is not yet ready, looks nice though,,and I've started off
with eclipse so that particular UML is out perhaps I'll take a closer
look at the Eclipse offerings...

Any one else have best practices?? I'sm wondering what the Django
dev's use, in some cases it seems that people are just moving right
into code with little pre planning??

On Jul 10, 10:32 pm, Streamweaver  wrote:
> I use netbeans and there is a UML plugin that you can download and use
> for free.
>
> On Jul 10, 10:43 pm, dartdog  wrote:
>
> > Starting to noodle out some system design stuff for Django
> > implementation does anyone have good ideas suggestions for useful
> > tools to encompass db (model)  business logic and presentation
> > components, flow and how to tie them together. It seems that the most
> > obvious solution in freeware is dia?  It would be nice to be able to
> > tie the result to lifecycle documentation?
>
> > Thoughts?? Ideas, I'll run them down, with pointers!
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Re: Design Tools any suggestions?

[Streamweaver]

I use netbeans and there is a UML plugin that you can download and use
for free.

On Jul 10, 10:43 pm, dartdog  wrote:
> Starting to noodle out some system design stuff for Django
> implementation does anyone have good ideas suggestions for useful
> tools to encompass db (model)  business logic and presentation
> components, flow and how to tie them together. It seems that the most
> obvious solution in freeware is dia?  It would be nice to be able to
> tie the result to lifecycle documentation?
>
> Thoughts?? Ideas, I'll run them down, with pointers!
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Re: Design Tools any suggestions?

[Javier Guerra]

dartdog wrote:
> 
> Starting to noodle out some system design stuff for Django
> implementation does anyone have good ideas suggestions for useful
> tools to encompass db (model)  business logic and presentation
> components, flow and how to tie them together. It seems that the most
> obvious solution in freeware is dia?  It would be nice to be able to
> tie the result to lifecycle documentation?

i use umbrello (UML editor) the class diagram is very helpful for designing the 
model layer.  ideally, the view and templates should be as thin as possible, 
with very few (if any) architecture-wide design choice.

-- 
Javier

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Design Tools any suggestions?

[dartdog]

Starting to noodle out some system design stuff for Django
implementation does anyone have good ideas suggestions for useful
tools to encompass db (model)  business logic and presentation
components, flow and how to tie them together. It seems that the most
obvious solution in freeware is dia?  It would be nice to be able to
tie the result to lifecycle documentation?

Thoughts?? Ideas, I'll run them down, with pointers!
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