Re: Issue Deploying Django

[Kurtis Mullins]

On Aug 11, 2012 6:31 PM, "Mario Lacunza"  wrote:
>
> Dont forget ask to webfaction about it too before > you buy the package,
you have root access in WF > and you can install whaterver you want I guess.

Web faction gives root access now?

> Anyways ask WF support.
>
> http://www.webfaction.com?affiliate=lacunza

Haha, nice usage of your affiliate link. Maybe this response was a bit
biased?

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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[Mario Lacunza]

Dont forget ask to webfaction about it too before you buy the package, 
you have root access in WF and you can install whaterver you want I 
guess. Anyways ask WF support.


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El 11/08/12 16:50, JJ Zolper escribió:

Thank you mark for the great response.

Let me add on to the reason I started this thread for any who missed it.

I need to be able to have the capability to install geospatial libraries such 
as GEOS, PROJ, PostGIS, and possibly GDAL.

On my current host i do not have root privleges and so if for example 
webfactiom doesnt have support for those then I would look into other options.

I also dont want to rely on a premadr script from webfaction. Why? Well, i want 
complete flexibility to install any sort of add on I need for my django 
project. Thats where a VPS or cloud sever strikes me as being the right choice.

Thanks to everyone for their time!

JJ



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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[JJ Zolper]

Thank you mark for the great response.

Let me add on to the reason I started this thread for any who missed it.

I need to be able to have the capability to install geospatial libraries such 
as GEOS, PROJ, PostGIS, and possibly GDAL.

On my current host i do not have root privleges and so if for example 
webfactiom doesnt have support for those then I would look into other options.

I also dont want to rely on a premadr script from webfaction. Why? Well, i want 
complete flexibility to install any sort of add on I need for my django 
project. Thats where a VPS or cloud sever strikes me as being the right choice.

Thanks to everyone for their time!

JJ

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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[Mark Gemmill]

Like William, I'd have to say I've had pretty good luck with Webfaction. 
You can do just about anything you want and the support is very good. They 
have standard setup scripts for various types of apps, including Django, 
but if you want to do something custom you have a lot of freedom. For 
instance, I recently setup a Django app on my Webfaction account that is 
running on a custom build of nginx and gunicorn. I even compiled and 
installed my own local python, rather than use their standard python 
options.

On Friday, 10 August 2012 15:01:39 UTC-7, JJ Zolper wrote:
>
> I absolutely agree that's why if a place like webfaction can't completely 
> convince me that they can take care of everything I could want then I think 
> I need to go with root access with a cloud server or VPS.
>
> Sorry for the long wait on the reply.
>
> On Friday, August 3, 2012 11:13:46 AM UTC-4, Kurtis wrote:
>>
>> With Cloud Servers, yes -- you do get Root access. It's basically the 
>> equivelant of a VPS that you can easily spawn, scale, and replicate as 
>> needed.
>>
>> Without root access on servers, virtual environments only get you so far. 
>> What happens when you need to install Python imaging library but they don't 
>> have a specific library? What happens when you decide you want to plugin to 
>> some other library and the version of GCC they have is too ancient to 
>> support its make system? etc These are just some examples of headaches 
>> that may crop up without a good "open" system (such as a VPS, Cloud Server) 
>> or a web host who explicitly supports Django.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:18 AM, JJ Zolper  wrote:
>>
>>> >Agreed that virtualenv will allow you to install python packages - 
>>> however not any linux/unix packages.  I have no problems using >Django on 
>>> Dreamhost.  http://dashdrum.com/blog/2011/08/django-on-dreamhost/ 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the advice I will look into dreamhost too!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Dan Gentry  wrote:
>>>
 Agreed that virtualenv will allow you to install python packages - 
 however not any linux/unix packages.  I have no problems using Django on 
 Dreamhost.  http://dashdrum.com/blog/2011/08/django-on-dreamhost/


 On Thursday, August 2, 2012 10:34:35 PM UTC-4, trevorj wrote:
>
> You are trying to install packages system-wide when you don't have 
> credentials to do so.
>
> You can install everything you need without cluttering the system 
> itself.
>
> For instance, use a virtualenv and set your PREFIX.
>
> Either way, happy hacking!
> On Aug 1, 2012 8:32 PM, "JJ Zolper"  wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to install GEOS and on my bluehost account under my 
>> django_src folder and what happened in the image happened.
>>
>> it said cannot create directory permission denied so i tired sudo 
>> make install after what I had just done ( "make" ).
>>
>> and then it said whats in the second image.
>>
>> When I tried to run:
>>
>> ./manage.py runfcgi [options]
>>
>> I got an error about GEOS so that's why I was doing that.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> JJ
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:03:21 PM UTC-4, JJ Zolper wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for the reply!
>>>
>>> I had a feeling I would need it but I just like to be sure before I 
>>> act.
>>>
>>> Another thing. On Ubuntu there were additional packages I had to 
>>> install. I believe one was called "psycopg2-python-dev" or something 
>>> like 
>>> that.
>>>
>>> If I install psycopg2-python at:
>>>
>>> http://www.initd.org/psycopg/ 
>>>
>>> Are there any additional packges that I might need?
>>>
>>> I apologize for not being able to remember the additional ones I 
>>> added before on Ubuntu but I'm at work and couldn't find in my 
>>> installation 
>>> history what they might have been or in my django google group 
>>> discussions.
>>>
>>> I feel like one was called "libpq-dev" actually.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> JJ
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:07:54 AM UTC-4, lawgon wrote:

 On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote: 
 > Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is 
 that 
 > what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my 
 > Django code on the server it's just a file missing right? 

 you need to install pycopg - and it is nothing to do with your code 
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[JJ Zolper]

I absolutely agree that's why if a place like webfaction can't completely 
convince me that they can take care of everything I could want then I think 
I need to go with root access with a cloud server or VPS.

Sorry for the long wait on the reply.

On Friday, August 3, 2012 11:13:46 AM UTC-4, Kurtis wrote:
>
> With Cloud Servers, yes -- you do get Root access. It's basically the 
> equivelant of a VPS that you can easily spawn, scale, and replicate as 
> needed.
>
> Without root access on servers, virtual environments only get you so far. 
> What happens when you need to install Python imaging library but they don't 
> have a specific library? What happens when you decide you want to plugin to 
> some other library and the version of GCC they have is too ancient to 
> support its make system? etc These are just some examples of headaches 
> that may crop up without a good "open" system (such as a VPS, Cloud Server) 
> or a web host who explicitly supports Django.
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:18 AM, JJ Zolper 
> > wrote:
>
>> >Agreed that virtualenv will allow you to install python packages - 
>> however not any linux/unix packages.  I have no problems using >Django on 
>> Dreamhost.  http://dashdrum.com/blog/2011/08/django-on-dreamhost/ 
>>
>> Thanks for the advice I will look into dreamhost too!
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Dan Gentry 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed that virtualenv will allow you to install python packages - 
>>> however not any linux/unix packages.  I have no problems using Django on 
>>> Dreamhost.  http://dashdrum.com/blog/2011/08/django-on-dreamhost/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 2, 2012 10:34:35 PM UTC-4, trevorj wrote:

 You are trying to install packages system-wide when you don't have 
 credentials to do so.

 You can install everything you need without cluttering the system 
 itself.

 For instance, use a virtualenv and set your PREFIX.

 Either way, happy hacking!
 On Aug 1, 2012 8:32 PM, "JJ Zolper" > 
 wrote:

> I'm trying to install GEOS and on my bluehost account under my 
> django_src folder and what happened in the image happened.
>
> it said cannot create directory permission denied so i tired sudo make 
> install after what I had just done ( "make" ).
>
> and then it said whats in the second image.
>
> When I tried to run:
>
> ./manage.py runfcgi [options]
>
> I got an error about GEOS so that's why I was doing that.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> JJ
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:03:21 PM UTC-4, JJ Zolper wrote:
>>
>> Thanks so much for the reply!
>>
>> I had a feeling I would need it but I just like to be sure before I 
>> act.
>>
>> Another thing. On Ubuntu there were additional packages I had to 
>> install. I believe one was called "psycopg2-python-dev" or something 
>> like 
>> that.
>>
>> If I install psycopg2-python at:
>>
>> http://www.initd.org/psycopg/ 
>>
>> Are there any additional packges that I might need?
>>
>> I apologize for not being able to remember the additional ones I 
>> added before on Ubuntu but I'm at work and couldn't find in my 
>> installation 
>> history what they might have been or in my django google group 
>> discussions.
>>
>> I feel like one was called "libpq-dev" actually.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> JJ
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:07:54 AM UTC-4, lawgon wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote: 
>>> > Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is 
>>> that 
>>> > what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my 
>>> > Django code on the server it's just a file missing right? 
>>>
>>> you need to install pycopg - and it is nothing to do with your code 
>>> -- 
>>> regards 
>>> Kenneth Gonsalves 
>>>
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[Kurtis Mullins]

With Cloud Servers, yes -- you do get Root access. It's basically the
equivelant of a VPS that you can easily spawn, scale, and replicate as
needed.

Without root access on servers, virtual environments only get you so far.
What happens when you need to install Python imaging library but they don't
have a specific library? What happens when you decide you want to plugin to
some other library and the version of GCC they have is too ancient to
support its make system? etc These are just some examples of headaches
that may crop up without a good "open" system (such as a VPS, Cloud Server)
or a web host who explicitly supports Django.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:18 AM, JJ Zolper  wrote:

> >Agreed that virtualenv will allow you to install python packages -
> however not any linux/unix packages.  I have no problems using >Django on
> Dreamhost.  http://dashdrum.com/blog/2011/08/django-on-dreamhost/
>
> Thanks for the advice I will look into dreamhost too!
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Dan Gentry  wrote:
>
>> Agreed that virtualenv will allow you to install python packages -
>> however not any linux/unix packages.  I have no problems using Django on
>> Dreamhost.  http://dashdrum.com/blog/2011/08/django-on-dreamhost/
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 2, 2012 10:34:35 PM UTC-4, trevorj wrote:
>>>
>>> You are trying to install packages system-wide when you don't have
>>> credentials to do so.
>>>
>>> You can install everything you need without cluttering the system itself.
>>>
>>> For instance, use a virtualenv and set your PREFIX.
>>>
>>> Either way, happy hacking!
>>> On Aug 1, 2012 8:32 PM, "JJ Zolper"  wrote:
>>>
 I'm trying to install GEOS and on my bluehost account under my
 django_src folder and what happened in the image happened.

 it said cannot create directory permission denied so i tired sudo make
 install after what I had just done ( "make" ).

 and then it said whats in the second image.

 When I tried to run:

 ./manage.py runfcgi [options]

 I got an error about GEOS so that's why I was doing that.

 Thanks for the help.

 JJ

 On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:03:21 PM UTC-4, JJ Zolper wrote:
>
> Thanks so much for the reply!
>
> I had a feeling I would need it but I just like to be sure before I
> act.
>
> Another thing. On Ubuntu there were additional packages I had to
> install. I believe one was called "psycopg2-python-dev" or something like
> that.
>
> If I install psycopg2-python at:
>
> http://www.initd.org/psycopg/
>
> Are there any additional packges that I might need?
>
> I apologize for not being able to remember the additional ones I added
> before on Ubuntu but I'm at work and couldn't find in my installation
> history what they might have been or in my django google group 
> discussions.
>
> I feel like one was called "libpq-dev" actually.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> JJ
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:07:54 AM UTC-4, lawgon wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote:
>> > Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is
>> that
>> > what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my
>> > Django code on the server it's just a file missing right?
>>
>> you need to install pycopg - and it is nothing to do with your code
>> --
>> regards
>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>>
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[JJ Zolper]

>Agreed that virtualenv will allow you to install python packages - however
not any linux/unix packages.  I have no problems using >Django on
Dreamhost.  http://dashdrum.com/blog/2011/08/django-on-dreamhost/

Thanks for the advice I will look into dreamhost too!

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Dan Gentry  wrote:

> Agreed that virtualenv will allow you to install python packages - however
> not any linux/unix packages.  I have no problems using Django on Dreamhost.
>  http://dashdrum.com/blog/2011/08/django-on-dreamhost/
>
>
> On Thursday, August 2, 2012 10:34:35 PM UTC-4, trevorj wrote:
>>
>> You are trying to install packages system-wide when you don't have
>> credentials to do so.
>>
>> You can install everything you need without cluttering the system itself.
>>
>> For instance, use a virtualenv and set your PREFIX.
>>
>> Either way, happy hacking!
>> On Aug 1, 2012 8:32 PM, "JJ Zolper"  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to install GEOS and on my bluehost account under my
>>> django_src folder and what happened in the image happened.
>>>
>>> it said cannot create directory permission denied so i tired sudo make
>>> install after what I had just done ( "make" ).
>>>
>>> and then it said whats in the second image.
>>>
>>> When I tried to run:
>>>
>>> ./manage.py runfcgi [options]
>>>
>>> I got an error about GEOS so that's why I was doing that.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> JJ
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:03:21 PM UTC-4, JJ Zolper wrote:

 Thanks so much for the reply!

 I had a feeling I would need it but I just like to be sure before I act.

 Another thing. On Ubuntu there were additional packages I had to
 install. I believe one was called "psycopg2-python-dev" or something like
 that.

 If I install psycopg2-python at:

 http://www.initd.org/psycopg/

 Are there any additional packges that I might need?

 I apologize for not being able to remember the additional ones I added
 before on Ubuntu but I'm at work and couldn't find in my installation
 history what they might have been or in my django google group discussions.

 I feel like one was called "libpq-dev" actually.

 Thanks for the help.

 JJ

 On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:07:54 AM UTC-4, lawgon wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote:
> > Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is that
> > what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my
> > Django code on the server it's just a file missing right?
>
> you need to install pycopg - and it is nothing to do with your code
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[JJ Zolper]

Yes when I saw no root privleges I realized very soon that I either have to
get a new host that has what I need installed or get my own box and full
control.

With virtualenv I can install the packages on bluehost?

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Trevor Joynson wrote:

> You are trying to install packages system-wide when you don't have
> credentials to do so.
>
> You can install everything you need without cluttering the system itself.
>
> For instance, use a virtualenv and set your PREFIX.
>
> Either way, happy hacking!
> On Aug 1, 2012 8:32 PM, "JJ Zolper"  wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to install GEOS and on my bluehost account under my django_src
>> folder and what happened in the image happened.
>>
>> it said cannot create directory permission denied so i tired sudo make
>> install after what I had just done ( "make" ).
>>
>> and then it said whats in the second image.
>>
>> When I tried to run:
>>
>> ./manage.py runfcgi [options]
>>
>> I got an error about GEOS so that's why I was doing that.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> JJ
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:03:21 PM UTC-4, JJ Zolper wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for the reply!
>>>
>>> I had a feeling I would need it but I just like to be sure before I act.
>>>
>>> Another thing. On Ubuntu there were additional packages I had to
>>> install. I believe one was called "psycopg2-python-dev" or something like
>>> that.
>>>
>>> If I install psycopg2-python at:
>>>
>>> http://www.initd.org/psycopg/
>>>
>>> Are there any additional packges that I might need?
>>>
>>> I apologize for not being able to remember the additional ones I added
>>> before on Ubuntu but I'm at work and couldn't find in my installation
>>> history what they might have been or in my django google group discussions.
>>>
>>> I feel like one was called "libpq-dev" actually.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> JJ
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:07:54 AM UTC-4, lawgon wrote:

 On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote:
 > Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is that
 > what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my
 > Django code on the server it's just a file missing right?

 you need to install pycopg - and it is nothing to do with your code
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[JJ Zolper]

Yeah I've been looking into webfaction. Any information would be great
thanks William!

Only issues I would forsee is the root control. That is unless they have
all that I need but at the same time I think I would lean to having root
over not. Also I'm on a shared hosting right now and it's pretty good but I
might be ready to get more serious with my own box and what not.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM, william ratcliff  wrote:

> I will say that I've had pretty good luck hosting with webfaction and
> installing packages locally.  They also have really good support--I'd tell
> them your use case and ask them if it would work with them.   Even though
> it's shared hosting, I do have ssh--though not root
>
> William
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:03 PM, JJ Zolper  wrote:
>
>> Yes it seems that way. Thats because its shared hosting and i dont have
>> root privleges. bluehost has hindered what I can do with Django.
>>
>> But does a cloud server at rackspace have root privleges like a vps?
>> because i think i need to install these geospatial libraries to be able to
>> really make forward progress with my site.
>>
>> I bought this hosting at bluehost a while ago but i didnt know as much as
>> i do know about django and what i need etc so im thinking a new host.
>> Either slicehost, maybe a cloud server, something like that with full
>> control like root.
>>
>> JJ
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[Dan Gentry]

Agreed that virtualenv will allow you to install python packages - however 
not any linux/unix packages.  I have no problems using Django on Dreamhost. 
 http://dashdrum.com/blog/2011/08/django-on-dreamhost/

On Thursday, August 2, 2012 10:34:35 PM UTC-4, trevorj wrote:
>
> You are trying to install packages system-wide when you don't have 
> credentials to do so.
>
> You can install everything you need without cluttering the system itself.
>
> For instance, use a virtualenv and set your PREFIX.
>
> Either way, happy hacking!
> On Aug 1, 2012 8:32 PM, "JJ Zolper"  wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to install GEOS and on my bluehost account under my django_src 
>> folder and what happened in the image happened.
>>
>> it said cannot create directory permission denied so i tired sudo make 
>> install after what I had just done ( "make" ).
>>
>> and then it said whats in the second image.
>>
>> When I tried to run:
>>
>> ./manage.py runfcgi [options]
>>
>> I got an error about GEOS so that's why I was doing that.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> JJ
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:03:21 PM UTC-4, JJ Zolper wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for the reply!
>>>
>>> I had a feeling I would need it but I just like to be sure before I act.
>>>
>>> Another thing. On Ubuntu there were additional packages I had to 
>>> install. I believe one was called "psycopg2-python-dev" or something like 
>>> that.
>>>
>>> If I install psycopg2-python at:
>>>
>>> http://www.initd.org/psycopg/ 
>>>
>>> Are there any additional packges that I might need?
>>>
>>> I apologize for not being able to remember the additional ones I added 
>>> before on Ubuntu but I'm at work and couldn't find in my installation 
>>> history what they might have been or in my django google group discussions.
>>>
>>> I feel like one was called "libpq-dev" actually.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> JJ
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:07:54 AM UTC-4, lawgon wrote:

 On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote: 
 > Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is that 
 > what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my 
 > Django code on the server it's just a file missing right? 

 you need to install pycopg - and it is nothing to do with your code 
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[Trevor Joynson]

You are trying to install packages system-wide when you don't have
credentials to do so.

You can install everything you need without cluttering the system itself.

For instance, use a virtualenv and set your PREFIX.

Either way, happy hacking!
On Aug 1, 2012 8:32 PM, "JJ Zolper"  wrote:

> I'm trying to install GEOS and on my bluehost account under my django_src
> folder and what happened in the image happened.
>
> it said cannot create directory permission denied so i tired sudo make
> install after what I had just done ( "make" ).
>
> and then it said whats in the second image.
>
> When I tried to run:
>
> ./manage.py runfcgi [options]
>
> I got an error about GEOS so that's why I was doing that.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> JJ
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:03:21 PM UTC-4, JJ Zolper wrote:
>>
>> Thanks so much for the reply!
>>
>> I had a feeling I would need it but I just like to be sure before I act.
>>
>> Another thing. On Ubuntu there were additional packages I had to install.
>> I believe one was called "psycopg2-python-dev" or something like that.
>>
>> If I install psycopg2-python at:
>>
>> http://www.initd.org/psycopg/
>>
>> Are there any additional packges that I might need?
>>
>> I apologize for not being able to remember the additional ones I added
>> before on Ubuntu but I'm at work and couldn't find in my installation
>> history what they might have been or in my django google group discussions.
>>
>> I feel like one was called "libpq-dev" actually.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> JJ
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:07:54 AM UTC-4, lawgon wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote:
>>> > Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is that
>>> > what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my
>>> > Django code on the server it's just a file missing right?
>>>
>>> you need to install pycopg - and it is nothing to do with your code
>>> --
>>> regards
>>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>>>
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[william ratcliff]

I will say that I've had pretty good luck hosting with webfaction and
installing packages locally.  They also have really good support--I'd tell
them your use case and ask them if it would work with them.   Even though
it's shared hosting, I do have ssh--though not root

William

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:03 PM, JJ Zolper  wrote:

> Yes it seems that way. Thats because its shared hosting and i dont have
> root privleges. bluehost has hindered what I can do with Django.
>
> But does a cloud server at rackspace have root privleges like a vps?
> because i think i need to install these geospatial libraries to be able to
> really make forward progress with my site.
>
> I bought this hosting at bluehost a while ago but i didnt know as much as
> i do know about django and what i need etc so im thinking a new host.
> Either slicehost, maybe a cloud server, something like that with full
> control like root.
>
> JJ
>
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[JJ Zolper]

Yes it seems that way. Thats because its shared hosting and i dont have root 
privleges. bluehost has hindered what I can do with Django.

But does a cloud server at rackspace have root privleges like a vps? because i 
think i need to install these geospatial libraries to be able to really make 
forward progress with my site.

I bought this hosting at bluehost a while ago but i didnt know as much as i do 
know about django and what i need etc so im thinking a new host. Either 
slicehost, maybe a cloud server, something like that with full control like 
root.

JJ

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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[Alex Strickland]

On 2012/08/02 05:42 PM, Kurtis Mullins wrote:


I'd recommend another host. There's many issues you may run into with
using a shared hosting provider that doesn't explicitly support Django.
The best option (in my opinion) is to just get a cheap Cloud Server if
you're up for the task of managing them ($10/month at Rackspace or Free
for one year at Amazon). Sorry for the bad news :/ Maybe someone else
can chime in and give you better information? I've just had extremely
bad luck with trying to do anything other than run PHP on "traditional"
shared hosts.


Glad to hear you say that, as I have just opted for AWS (using the 
Bitnami Django stack), and it's nice to hear that I might have done the 
right thing.


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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[Kurtis Mullins]

I'd recommend another host. There's many issues you may run into with using
a shared hosting provider that doesn't explicitly support Django. The best
option (in my opinion) is to just get a cheap Cloud Server if you're up for
the task of managing them ($10/month at Rackspace or Free for one year at
Amazon). Sorry for the bad news :/ Maybe someone else can chime in and give
you better information? I've just had extremely bad luck with trying to do
anything other than run PHP on "traditional" shared hosts.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, JJ Zolper  wrote:

> I'm trying to install GEOS and on my bluehost account under my django_src
> folder and what happened in the image happened.
>
> it said cannot create directory permission denied so i tired sudo make
> install after what I had just done ( "make" ).
>
> and then it said whats in the second image.
>
> When I tried to run:
>
> ./manage.py runfcgi [options]
>
> I got an error about GEOS so that's why I was doing that.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> JJ
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:03:21 PM UTC-4, JJ Zolper wrote:
>>
>> Thanks so much for the reply!
>>
>> I had a feeling I would need it but I just like to be sure before I act.
>>
>> Another thing. On Ubuntu there were additional packages I had to install.
>> I believe one was called "psycopg2-python-dev" or something like that.
>>
>> If I install psycopg2-python at:
>>
>> http://www.initd.org/psycopg/
>>
>> Are there any additional packges that I might need?
>>
>> I apologize for not being able to remember the additional ones I added
>> before on Ubuntu but I'm at work and couldn't find in my installation
>> history what they might have been or in my django google group discussions.
>>
>> I feel like one was called "libpq-dev" actually.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> JJ
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:07:54 AM UTC-4, lawgon wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote:
>>> > Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is that
>>> > what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my
>>> > Django code on the server it's just a file missing right?
>>>
>>> you need to install pycopg - and it is nothing to do with your code
>>> --
>>> regards
>>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>>>
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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[JJ Zolper]

Thanks so much for the reply!

I had a feeling I would need it but I just like to be sure before I act.

Another thing. On Ubuntu there were additional packages I had to install. I 
believe one was called "psycopg2-python-dev" or something like that.

If I install psycopg2-python at:

http://www.initd.org/psycopg/ 

Are there any additional packges that I might need?

I apologize for not being able to remember the additional ones I added 
before on Ubuntu but I'm at work and couldn't find in my installation 
history what they might have been or in my django google group discussions.

I feel like one was called "libpq-dev" actually.

Thanks for the help.

JJ

On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:07:54 AM UTC-4, lawgon wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote: 
> > Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is that 
> > what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my 
> > Django code on the server it's just a file missing right? 
>
> you need to install pycopg - and it is nothing to do with your code 
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> Kenneth Gonsalves 
>
>

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Re: Issue Deploying Django

[kenneth gonsalves]

On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 20:52 -0700, JJ Zolper wrote:
> Do I need to go through and install the python like adapters is that
> what it's complaining about? I don't think this has to do with my
> Django code on the server it's just a file missing right?

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