Re: mass email app for django

[Sergiy Khohlov]

In this case you have a problem with deliveries verifying. For example :
 You would like to send mass email to 1000 mail boxes and uses CC: or
BCC: field for this one. But  most of the SMTP has a limitation : ex
postfix has reading only 50 item in CC list. As result you can not
send most of the your email.  In the case of sending directly to the
other SMTP (not using own SMTP) you have problem with spam protect at
the other side.
 Anyway if you would like to receive some knowledge from me ask me
directly to via django list.  This thread is out of maillist topic
Many thanks,

Serge


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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Sven Aßmann  wrote:
> Hi Serge,
>
> unfortunately the smtp server is a managed server therefore no configuration 
> to
> use a db as virtual mail backend can be performed.
>
> But thanks for your notes, especially i wasn't aware that djnago can use the
> postmark / rest api for mails out of the box. I need to investigate on that -
> exiting.
>
> Cheers,
> Sven
>
> On Wednesday 15 January 2014 13:34:11 Sergiy Khohlov wrote:
>> Hello Sven,
>>
>> Look like it is not task for django. This is task  for SMTP server. Of
>> course you can create a task  for SMTP server using django but  main
>> force of the your application is based on mail server.
>>  I'm proposing  next solution:
>> 1) Store usermail in  database
>> 2) configure smtp server for using database as virtual  emails
>> database (it is not hard)
>> 3) Use django as web interface
>> 4) Send letter to SMTP using standart protocol
>>
>>  P.S. Postmark has API and it  is possible to use it directly from django.
>> If you  have any questions let me know. I've supported SMTP servers
>> for 15 years and 've worked  for spamfight service.
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Serge
>>
>>
>> +380 636150445
>> skype: skhohlov
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Sven Aßmann  wrote:
>> > Hi Group,
>> >
>> > currently i evaluating / research for a django app that supports mailing
>> > specific texts to a receipient list (like mass emailing). the corner
>> > features are:
>> >
>> > - email text should be editable (text or html nothing special) thru the
>> > admin app
>> > - the receipient list should be maintainable independently from users and
>> > texts (like a addressbook that is maintanale thru admin app)
>> > - ideally supports several mail backends like smtp, aws sms, postmark
>> > etc..
>> > - processing of the sending can be done async via django cli / message
>> > queue services
>> >
>> > The closest use case app would be something like a newsletter app, where
>> > the subscibers can be maintainted apart from django.auth.users
>> > I am aware of www.djangopackages.com and found already a couple of
>> > applications that could make the job.
>> >
>> > I ask you folks if someone has good experience with a specific one and or
>> > what features are included and helpfull and what are not that helpfull.
>> >
>> > I really appreciate your contributions.
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Sven
>> >
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> Sven
>

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Re: mass email app for django

[Sven Aßmann]

Hi Dedrerik,

maybe your are right and just using a service like Mailchimp (which seems to 
be pretty userfriendly) would be the best way to go. I will defenetly have a 
look on it and try to find out if the users needs can be satisfied by that.

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Sven

On Thursday 16 January 2014 12:14:20 Diederik van der Boor wrote:
> Hi Sven,
> 
> What you describe sounds like a Mailinglist..
> Wouldn't it be possible to use Mailchimp or Aweber for this kind of service?
> From Django you can use their API's.
> 
> Mass-mailing has a risk of being blacklisted as server,
> at least make sure you send email via a whitelisted SMPT server (and not
> directly to everyone at the web). For mass-mailing I always recommend using
> specialized mailinglist software.
> 
> Greetings,
> Diederik
> 
> Op 15 jan. 2014, om 01:42 heeft Sven Aßmann  het volgende 
geschreven:
> > Hi Group,
> > 
> > currently i evaluating / research for a django app that supports mailing
> > specific texts to a receipient list (like mass emailing). the corner
> > features are:
> > 
> > - email text should be editable (text or html nothing special) thru the
> > admin app
> > - the receipient list should be maintainable independently from users and
> > texts (like a addressbook that is maintanale thru admin app)
> > - ideally supports several mail backends like smtp, aws sms, postmark
> > etc..
> > - processing of the sending can be done async via django cli / message
> > queue services
> > 
> > The closest use case app would be something like a newsletter app, where
> > the subscibers can be maintainted apart from django.auth.users
> > I am aware of www.djangopackages.com and found already a couple of
> > applications that could make the job.
> > 
> > I ask you folks if someone has good experience with a specific one and or
> > what features are included and helpfull and what are not that helpfull.
> > 
> > I really appreciate your contributions.
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Re: mass email app for django

[Sven Aßmann]

Hi Serge,

unfortunately the smtp server is a managed server therefore no configuration to 
use a db as virtual mail backend can be performed.

But thanks for your notes, especially i wasn't aware that djnago can use the 
postmark / rest api for mails out of the box. I need to investigate on that - 
exiting.

Cheers,
Sven

On Wednesday 15 January 2014 13:34:11 Sergiy Khohlov wrote:
> Hello Sven,
> 
> Look like it is not task for django. This is task  for SMTP server. Of
> course you can create a task  for SMTP server using django but  main
> force of the your application is based on mail server.
>  I'm proposing  next solution:
> 1) Store usermail in  database
> 2) configure smtp server for using database as virtual  emails
> database (it is not hard)
> 3) Use django as web interface
> 4) Send letter to SMTP using standart protocol
> 
>  P.S. Postmark has API and it  is possible to use it directly from django.
> If you  have any questions let me know. I've supported SMTP servers
> for 15 years and 've worked  for spamfight service.
> Many thanks,
> 
> Serge
> 
> 
> +380 636150445
> skype: skhohlov
> 
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Sven Aßmann  wrote:
> > Hi Group,
> > 
> > currently i evaluating / research for a django app that supports mailing
> > specific texts to a receipient list (like mass emailing). the corner
> > features are:
> > 
> > - email text should be editable (text or html nothing special) thru the
> > admin app
> > - the receipient list should be maintainable independently from users and
> > texts (like a addressbook that is maintanale thru admin app)
> > - ideally supports several mail backends like smtp, aws sms, postmark
> > etc..
> > - processing of the sending can be done async via django cli / message
> > queue services
> > 
> > The closest use case app would be something like a newsletter app, where
> > the subscibers can be maintainted apart from django.auth.users
> > I am aware of www.djangopackages.com and found already a couple of
> > applications that could make the job.
> > 
> > I ask you folks if someone has good experience with a specific one and or
> > what features are included and helpfull and what are not that helpfull.
> > 
> > I really appreciate your contributions.
> > 
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> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Sven
> > 
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Re: mass email app for django

[Diederik van der Boor]

Hi Sven,

What you describe sounds like a Mailinglist..
Wouldn't it be possible to use Mailchimp or Aweber for this kind of service?
>From Django you can use their API's.

Mass-mailing has a risk of being blacklisted as server,
at least make sure you send email via a whitelisted SMPT server (and not 
directly to everyone at the web).
For mass-mailing I always recommend using specialized mailinglist software.

Greetings,
Diederik

Op 15 jan. 2014, om 01:42 heeft Sven Aßmann  het volgende 
geschreven:

> Hi Group,
> 
> currently i evaluating / research for a django app that supports mailing 
> specific texts to a receipient list (like mass emailing). the corner features 
> are:
> 
> - email text should be editable (text or html nothing special) thru the admin 
> app
> - the receipient list should be maintainable independently from users and 
> texts (like a addressbook that is maintanale thru admin app)
> - ideally supports several mail backends like smtp, aws sms, postmark etc..
> - processing of the sending can be done async via django cli / message queue 
> services 
> 
> The closest use case app would be something like a newsletter app, where the 
> subscibers can be maintainted apart from django.auth.users
> I am aware of www.djangopackages.com and found already a couple of 
> applications that could make the job.
> 
> I ask you folks if someone has good experience with a specific one and or 
> what 
> features are included and helpfull and what are not that helpfull. 
> 
> I really appreciate your contributions.
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Sven
> 
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Re: mass email app for django

[Sergiy Khohlov]

Hello Sven,

Look like it is not task for django. This is task  for SMTP server. Of
course you can create a task  for SMTP server using django but  main
force of the your application is based on mail server.
 I'm proposing  next solution:
1) Store usermail in  database
2) configure smtp server for using database as virtual  emails
database (it is not hard)
3) Use django as web interface
4) Send letter to SMTP using standart protocol

 P.S. Postmark has API and it  is possible to use it directly from django.
If you  have any questions let me know. I've supported SMTP servers
for 15 years and 've worked  for spamfight service.
Many thanks,

Serge


+380 636150445
skype: skhohlov


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Sven Aßmann  wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> currently i evaluating / research for a django app that supports mailing
> specific texts to a receipient list (like mass emailing). the corner features
> are:
>
> - email text should be editable (text or html nothing special) thru the admin
> app
> - the receipient list should be maintainable independently from users and
> texts (like a addressbook that is maintanale thru admin app)
> - ideally supports several mail backends like smtp, aws sms, postmark etc..
> - processing of the sending can be done async via django cli / message queue
> services
>
> The closest use case app would be something like a newsletter app, where the
> subscibers can be maintainted apart from django.auth.users
> I am aware of www.djangopackages.com and found already a couple of
> applications that could make the job.
>
> I ask you folks if someone has good experience with a specific one and or what
> features are included and helpfull and what are not that helpfull.
>
> I really appreciate your contributions.
>
> --
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Sven
>
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