Re: [dmarc-ietf] Getting the word out and educating

2023-10-16 Thread Neil Anuskiewicz


> On Oct 16, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Dotzero  wrote

> https://www.m3aawg.org/ had sessions on DMARCbis, DKIM replay, etc. at their 
> meeting in Brooklyn last week. I did not attend. A number of ISPs, mailbox 
> providers, ESPs, etc. participate. I don't see it as something IETF organizes.
> 
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That makes sense. So I could write on the topic, videos, etc., on my own 
speaking for nobody other than myself and that wouldn’t step on toes it sounds 
like. I just wanted to make sure as I’m considering creating some content meant 
to help. I could create content for technical audiences who might have basic 
knowledge of email authentication and, because of their role, they want a 
primer on what’s coming down the pike.

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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Getting the word out and educating

2023-10-16 Thread Dotzero
On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 7:14 PM Neil Anuskiewicz  wrote:

> Outside of the official business of the WG, is there a mechanism for
> educating people about DMARCbis. Why is it important? What problems does it
> solve? What’s different? I think some of it might even surprise some
> people: You mean we have been relying on files of public suffix domains all
> this time? How exactly does the tree walk work?
>
> The RFC is great but won’t be enough for quite a few people. To get
> adoption we need content for different audiences, I think.
>
> So my thought is it would be useful to have content such as articles,
> videos, even a website that explains why the changes are important and how
> they work. I realize the RFC does explain things but I think more will be
> needed.
>
>  Is that something people just would do on their own or is this more of a
> coordinated process?
>
> I realize there’s dmarc.org but I think there will be a need for more
> explanatory material through multiple mediums. I think good articles and
> videos will be key.
>
> Neil
>

https://www.m3aawg.org/ had sessions on DMARCbis, DKIM replay, etc. at
their meeting in Brooklyn last week. I did not attend. A number of ISPs,
mailbox providers, ESPs, etc. participate. I don't see it as something IETF
organizes.

Michael Hammer
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[dmarc-ietf] Getting the word out and educating

2023-10-16 Thread Neil Anuskiewicz
Outside of the official business of the WG, is there a mechanism for educating 
people about DMARCbis. Why is it important? What problems does it solve? What’s 
different? I think some of it might even surprise some people: You mean we have 
been relying on files of public suffix domains all this time? How exactly does 
the tree walk work? 

The RFC is great but won’t be enough for quite a few people. To get adoption we 
need content for different audiences, I think.

So my thought is it would be useful to have content such as articles, videos, 
even a website that explains why the changes are important and how they work. I 
realize the RFC does explain things but I think more will be needed.

 Is that something people just would do on their own or is this more of a 
coordinated process?

I realize there’s dmarc.org but I think there will be a need for more 
explanatory material through multiple mediums. I think good articles and videos 
will be key.

Neil



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