Re: [dmarc-ietf] (no subject)

2023-11-09 Thread Neil Anuskiewicz


> On Nov 8, 2023, at 8:46 AM, John R. Levine  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, Douglas Foster wrote:
>> Since IETF cannot protect its own lists from conspicuous impersonation, it
>> seems poorly qualified to tell anyone else how to do so.
> 
> Actually, that message had nothing whatsoever to do with impersonation, and 
> everything to do with an obscure configuration error in my mail system.
> 
> Leaping to conclusions is rarely helpful.
> 
> Regards,
> John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for 
> Dummies",
> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

I’m not consistent lurking but I get the feeling there’s one more large issue 
that’s a big blocker. The only is a talk at least on zoom not email, where both 
gentlemen do the honor of earnestly steal maning the other argument then from 
there refute the best case not the straw man version that’s human nature. 
Everyone else listen with an open mind and get to rough consensus. The steal 
man method should settle this. It’s easier than dialing.
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Re: [dmarc-ietf] (no subject)

2023-11-08 Thread John R. Levine

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, Douglas Foster wrote:

Since IETF cannot protect its own lists from conspicuous impersonation, it
seems poorly qualified to tell anyone else how to do so.


Actually, that message had nothing whatsoever to do with impersonation, 
and everything to do with an obscure configuration error in my mail 
system.


Leaping to conclusions is rarely helpful.

Regards,
John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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Re: [dmarc-ietf] (no subject)

2020-06-25 Thread John Levine
In article  you write:
>First ler us be clear.  DMARC does not create a significant delivery problem 
>for mailing lists.

Assertions like this are extremely unhelpful.

Some of us have been running lists for 30 years (yes, really) and are quite 
aware what the problems are.

R's,
John

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