Re: [dmarc-discuss] PolicyOverride in Reporting
+1 to what Brandon wrote. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:23 PM Brandon Long via dmarc-discuss < dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org> wrote: > Isn't the override in the RowType? So you can just have multiple > RecordTypes, each with different RowTypes? > > Ultimately, it seems like the report is a bunch of fields with a count, > and so the composition is to make sure that the set of rows is a "unique" > key. Theoretically you should log even the published policy at eval time, > so you can report different counts even if the policy changes over that > period... even if you'd have to send separate reports. > > The schema doesn't really make that clear, to my mind, I wouldn't have > buried the count. > > Brandon > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 5:26 AM Brotman, Alex via dmarc-discuss < > dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org> wrote: > >> What is to be done if only a portion of the messages from the reporting >> period receive a policy override? Perhaps this is done based on IP, or >> only applied part way through the day. It seems like in the specification, >> the reporting definition assumes the entire set of reported messages has >> the override. >> >> -- >> Alex Brotman >> Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy >> Comcast >> >> >> ___ >> dmarc-discuss mailing list >> dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org >> http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss >> >> NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well >> terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html) >> > ___ > dmarc-discuss mailing list > dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org > http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss > > NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well > terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html) ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html)
Re: [dmarc-discuss] PolicyOverride in Reporting
Isn't the override in the RowType? So you can just have multiple RecordTypes, each with different RowTypes? Ultimately, it seems like the report is a bunch of fields with a count, and so the composition is to make sure that the set of rows is a "unique" key. Theoretically you should log even the published policy at eval time, so you can report different counts even if the policy changes over that period... even if you'd have to send separate reports. The schema doesn't really make that clear, to my mind, I wouldn't have buried the count. Brandon On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 5:26 AM Brotman, Alex via dmarc-discuss < dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org> wrote: > What is to be done if only a portion of the messages from the reporting > period receive a policy override? Perhaps this is done based on IP, or > only applied part way through the day. It seems like in the specification, > the reporting definition assumes the entire set of reported messages has > the override. > > -- > Alex Brotman > Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy > Comcast > > > ___ > dmarc-discuss mailing list > dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org > http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss > > NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well > terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html) > ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html)
Re: [dmarc-discuss] PolicyOverride in Reporting
This is where RUF reports are useful. For AUF reports, you are making an assumption of fact not in evidence. I think the more reasonable approach would be o provide a line forlocal policy ovrride (applied) and a line for no local policy override applied. If the reporting period is a day (date) that leaves uncertainty as to when in the reporting period the override occurred but at least you know the percentage/absolute number(s). Mike On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:26 AM Brotman, Alex via dmarc-discuss < dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org> wrote: > What is to be done if only a portion of the messages from the reporting > period receive a policy override? Perhaps this is done based on IP, or > only applied part way through the day. It seems like in the specification, > the reporting definition assumes the entire set of reported messages has > the override. > > -- > Alex Brotman > Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy > Comcast > > > > ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html)
[dmarc-discuss] PolicyOverride in Reporting
What is to be done if only a portion of the messages from the reporting period receive a policy override? Perhaps this is done based on IP, or only applied part way through the day. It seems like in the specification, the reporting definition assumes the entire set of reported messages has the override. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html)