[DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-27 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

I know this was asked and answered once before, but 1/2 hour of
searching my archives couldn't find it.

Where can I find and download the latest Devuan capable of being run on
Qemu (I assume this means an ISO, unless someone knows another way to
do it).

Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-27 Thread Edward Bartolo
There are no infinite loops in the backend, therefore it will do what
it is requested and terminate. The backend is run every time the
frontend needs the former's services. On every call, the backend
terminates, otherwise we would need some form of messaging between
applications, and probably, fall into traps like requiring the
services of dbus and the like, and we want to avoid that.

Now, in the case of frequently changing wifi hotspots, the frontend
need to be made to detect that a different wifi hotspot is required.
This can be achieved with TTimer calling a subroutine regularly in
which a connection is tested, and in case the active wifi is
unreachable, other wifi's are tried starting with the strongest
signal. In case, no essid file is found, the user is prompted to enter
password and essid. However, this can become a nuisance, so we have to
decide where to stop regarding automating wifi connections.

On 27/08/2015, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:14:39 +0100
 Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think it is necessary to daemonise the backend as connection
 to and disconnecting from a network is not something that is done
 continuously.

 Unless you're walking down the street in the business district, with
 wifi stations fading in and out.

 Therefore, in my humble opinion, running the backend on
 request seems to be the best approach. This also avoids additional
 complexity of requiring a dedicated init script.

 I keep forgetting that not everybody runs daemontools or its
 descendents, where init scripts are about 6 lines long and there's no
 need for the author of the daemon to make his program go into the
 background.

 In other words, I keep forgetting that in sysvinit, systemd, OpenRC and
 the like, daemons have a substantial cost.

 Anyway, let me ask you this question: If I were to run the back end on
 a terminal somewhere, would the front end cooperate with it and leave
 it running between front end actions?

 I think I'll order a wifi dongle so I can start testing your program.

 Thanks,

 SteveT

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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-27 Thread Edward Bartolo
I added another function to core_functions.c. It attempts to connect
to eth0 but for some weird reason, probably a bug not from our part,
it is failing.

The function is:  int connectWired(const char ethx)

And the error is: (passed command to execl is ifup eth0)
This command should be called as ifup, ifdown, or ifquery

Any pointers as to what is the cause are appreciated.

Edward

On 27/08/2015, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:18:02 +0100
 Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote:


 Now, in the case of frequently changing wifi hotspots, the frontend
 need to be made to detect that a different wifi hotspot is required.
 This can be achieved with TTimer calling a subroutine regularly in
 which a connection is tested, and in case the active wifi is
 unreachable, other wifi's are tried starting with the strongest
 signal. In case, no essid file is found, the user is prompted to enter
 password and essid. However, this can become a nuisance, so we have to
 decide where to stop regarding automating wifi connections.

 You're right.

 Probably something in the network software sends a message (besides the
 one sent to dbus) indicating that the current active wifi just
 disconnected, and if that can be redirected to your software, that
 pretty much does the job.

 SteveT

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/*
netman - A Network Connection Manager
Copyright (C) 2015  Edward Bartolo

netman is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.

netman is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
GNU General Public License for more details.

You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
along with netman.  If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/.
*/

#include errno.h
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include string.h
#include unistd.h
#include dirent.h
#include alloca.h
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/wait.h

#include core_functions.h
#include essid_encoder.h
#include paths.h

#define SIMPLE_SCAN_OPT 
//#define POWER_SCAN_OPT -B 4

int connectWired(
	const char * ethx
) {
	int err;
	int valid_eth = 0;
	
	if (ethx == NULL) 
		return 107; // ethx is NULL
	
	char ethN[10];
	strcpy(ethN, eth);
	
	valid_eth = (strncmp(ethN, ethx, 3) == 0);
	if (valid_eth  (strlen(ethx)  3  strlen(ethx)  6)) {
		if (strlen(ethx) == 4) {
			valid_eth = isdigit(ethx[3]);
		} else {
			valid_eth = ethx[3] != '0'  isdigit(ethx[3])  isdigit(ethx[4]);
		}		
	}
	
		
	if (!valid_eth) {
		fprintf(stderr, ERROR: ethX not recognized.\n);

		return 106;  //ethx not recognized
	}
		
	err = execl(/sbin/ifup, ethx, (char *) NULL);
		
	fprintf(
		stderr, 
		ERROR: connectWired(): 
		\/sbin/ifup %s\ failed; err=%d\n,
		ethx, err
	);
			
	return err;
}

int connectionConnect(
	const char * essid
) {
	char filename[1024];
	char * encoded_essid;
	int err;

	err = encode_essid_alloc(essid, encoded_essid);

	if(err!=0) {
		fprintf(stderr, ERROR: essid_encode_alloc(essid=%s) failed; err=%d\n, essid, err);

		return err;
	}

	err = encode_essid(essid, encoded_essid);

	if(err!=0) {
		fprintf(stderr, ERROR: essid_encode(essid=%s) failed; err=%d\n, essid, err);
		
		return err;
	}

	err = snprintf(filename, 1024, %s/%s, IFACES_PATH, encoded_essid);

	if(err0) {
		fprintf(stderr, ERROR: snprintf(filename) failed; err=%d\n, err);
		
		return err;
	}

	fprintf(stderr, DEBUG: now executing: /sbin/ifup wlan0 -i %s\n, filename); // DEBUG

	err = execl(/sbin/ifup, ifup, wlan0, -i, filename, (char *) NULL);

	fprintf(
		stderr, 
		ERROR: connectionConnect(): 
		\/sbin/ifup wlan0 -i %s\ failed; err=%d\n,
		filename, err
	);

	return err;
}

int disconnectActiveConnection()
{
	int err = execl(/sbin/ifdown, ifdown, wlan0, (char *) NULL);

	fprintf(
		stderr, 
		ERROR: disconnectActiveConnection(): 
		\/sbin/ifdown wlan0\ failed; err=%d\n,
		err
	);

	return err;
} 

int power_scan(scan_type scan)
{
	const char *command_up = /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up;
	int status;
	FILE * shell_reader;
	char * scan_buffer;
	int err;

	scan_buffer = calloc(1024, 1);

	if(!scan_buffer) {
		fprintf(
			stderr, 
			ERROR: power_scan(): 
			could not allocate 104 bytes for scan_buffer (Error: %s)\n, 
			strerror(errno)
		);

		return -1;
	}

	status = system(command_up);

	if(status==-1 || !WIFEXITED(status)) {
		fprintf(
			stderr, 
			ERROR: power_scan(): 
			\%s\ did not exit regularly (status=%d).\n, 
			command_up, status
		);

		return status;
	}
	else if (0 != WEXITSTATUS(status)) {
		fprintf(
			stderr, ERROR: power_scan(): 
			\%s\ did not exit successfully (status=%d).\n, 
			command_up, WEXITSTATUS(status)
		

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-08-27 Thread David Hare

On 27/08/15 15:09, Steve Litt wrote:

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:58:14 +0200
Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:


On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:29 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:

On Sun 26 July 2015 23:18:58 Steve Litt wrote:

You can roll your own automount with one day's work using
inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works
without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than
20 people want it.


+1
/j


Steve, what is the current development status of your promised tool?


I just did a little work on it, and then realized there's a package
that might do this for us, in a better way than I'd anticipated.

Please try the pmount package, and see if that fulfills your automount
needs.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt


There is also udevil (nothing to do with udev)

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Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan

2015-08-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:34:42PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
 Jaromil:
  we haven't yet worked on the mirroring mechanism, but we will
  
  once done, there will be a script and it will be easy
  I guess it will be a sort of amprolla satellite process
  so that the mirror redirection will be handled by nextime's software
 ...
 
 I would be good if one could have a local mirror with just file:// 
 entries i sources.list.
 
 It would be a great overhead if I needed apache at.al. when accessing
 files on the local disk.
 
 ///
 
 According to amprolla/nginx/rewrites.conf:
 
 rewrite /merged/pool/DEVUAN/(.*) http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/$1;
 rewrite /merged/pool/DEBIAN/(.*) http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/$1;
 rewrite /merged/pool/MARILLAT/(.*) http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/$1;
 rewrite /merged/dists/(.*)/main/(installer-.*)/(.*) 
 /devuan/dists/$1/main/$2/$3;
 
 I guess that this means that if the file is in devouan, use it,
 else use the debian one etc. That could be handled by using the
 right order in sources.list something in preferences.
  So if I have a copy of http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ and
 a debian mirror, all I need is to prioritize them, am I right ?

If you carefully order the sources.list entries,
might there wtill be a problem if the debian package is slightly more 
up-to-date than the devuan one?

-- hendrik

 
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Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-08-27 Thread fsmithred
On 08/26/2015 01:08 PM, Go Linux wrote:
 On Wed, 8/26/15, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re:  A better default windows manager
  To: dng@lists.dyne.org
  Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015, 11:31 AM
  
  On Wed, 26 Aug 2015
  12:58:14 +0200
  Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   On Tue,
  2015-08-25 at 17:29 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
 On Sun 26 July 2015 23:18:58 Steve Litt wrote:
 You can roll your own automount with one day's work using
 inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works
 without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than
 20 people want it.

 +1
 /j

 Steve, what is the current development status of your promised tool?
 
 I haven't started it yet. Only about 4 people have said they wanted it.
 
 SteveT
 
 
 
 Excuses, excuses . . .  ;)  OK.  Add me to the list.  I wanna see you do 
 this!!
 
 golinux
 
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Or think of us as cockroaches - for every one you see, there are 10 behind
the wall.

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Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-08-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:58:14 +0200
Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:29 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
  On Sun 26 July 2015 23:18:58 Steve Litt wrote:
   You can roll your own automount with one day's work using
   inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works
   without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than
   20 people want it.
  
  +1
  /j
 
 Steve, what is the current development status of your promised tool?

I just did a little work on it, and then realized there's a package
that might do this for us, in a better way than I'd anticipated.

Please try the pmount package, and see if that fulfills your automount
needs.

Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] What's /dev/bus/usb?

2015-08-27 Thread tilt!

Hi Jude,

next time before I hit send I check for new mails first! :)

Best regards,
T.

On 08/27/2015 04:52 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: /dev/bus/usb/* are USB 
devices, organized by the kernel-assigned USB bus

 number and USB device number (i.e.
 /dev/bus/usb/$USB_BUS_ID/$USB_DEVICE_ID).  This includes not only USB
 devices like mice and Web cameras, but also USB hubs and controllers.

 Vdev creates the /dev/bus/usb/* device files as well.
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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:40:49 +0100
Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I added another function to core_functions.c. It attempts to connect
 to eth0 but for some weird reason, probably a bug not from our part,
 it is failing.
 
 The function is:  int connectWired(const char ethx)
 
 And the error is: (passed command to execl is ifup eth0)
 This command should be called as ifup, ifdown, or ifquery
 
 Any pointers as to what is the cause are appreciated.

You might get lucky by sending execl the full path to ifup, perhaps
it's /sbin/ifup and execl didn't send the environment.



SteveT

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Re: [DNG] What's /dev/bus/usb?

2015-08-27 Thread tilt!

Hi Steve,

On 08/27/2015 03:43 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

What's /dev/bus/usb? On Wheezy, this is where you must aim your
inotifywait command to detect insertion and removal of flash drives.


As I understand it, it is a concatenation from the dev directory
root (which is /dev) and a syspath, provided by the kernel
(that is bus/usb). The concatenation is performed by udev and
applied as result of a builtin rule (i.e. this is not in
/lib/udev/rules.d or whatever).


Is /dev/bus/usb used on Devuan?


Apparently so.

 lsb_release -id  ls -ld /dev/bus/usb/001/001
 Distributor ID:Devuan
 Description:   Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii)
 crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 0 Aug 19 04:55 /dev/bus/usb/001/001

It is a drop-in replacement for the previous usbfs which was mounted
at /proc/bus/usb. As I understand it, it has the same layout and
implements a subset of the former's features.


Is /dev/bus/usb a udev thang, and if so, does vdev continue the
tradition?


I could not yet identify the exact code that accomplishes this
syspath and/or device path naming either in kernel or in udev.

On the vdev end, it's much easier, the code that implements is:

https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/blob/master/vdevd/helpers/LINUX/usb-name.sh

So the answer to the second part of your question is yes.

Kind regards,
T.

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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-27 Thread tilt!
Usage:

execl(full_pathname, runas, arg1, arg2, ..., NULL)

in this case:

full_pathname = /bin/ifup
runas = ifup
arg1 = eth0

Regards,
T.

Am 27. August 2015 16:40:49 MESZ, schrieb Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com:
I added another function to core_functions.c. It attempts to connect
to eth0 but for some weird reason, probably a bug not from our part,
it is failing.

The function is:  int connectWired(const char ethx)

And the error is: (passed command to execl is ifup eth0)
This command should be called as ifup, ifdown, or ifquery

Any pointers as to what is the cause are appreciated.

Edward

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Re: [DNG] What's /dev/bus/usb?

2015-08-27 Thread Jude Nelson
/dev/bus/usb/* are USB devices, organized by the kernel-assigned USB bus
number and USB device number (i.e.
/dev/bus/usb/$USB_BUS_ID/$USB_DEVICE_ID).  This includes not only USB
devices like mice and Web cameras, but also USB hubs and controllers.

Vdev creates the /dev/bus/usb/* device files as well.

-Jude

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com
wrote:

 Hi all,

 What's /dev/bus/usb? On Wheezy, this is where you must aim your
 inotifywait command to detect insertion and removal of flash drives.

 Is /dev/bus/usb used on Devuan?

 Is /dev/bus/usb a udev thang, and if so, does vdev continue the
 tradition?

 Thanks,

 SteveT

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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-27 Thread Edward Bartolo
It worked.

Now, I must find a way to determine whether we can communicate with a
router. Found that also.

ip a | grep wlan0
With wifi switched on and connection active: state UP

With wifi turned off and connection still active: state DOWN

That is what I need.


Edward

On 27/08/2015, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:40:49 +0100
 Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I added another function to core_functions.c. It attempts to connect
 to eth0 but for some weird reason, probably a bug not from our part,
 it is failing.

 The function is:  int connectWired(const char ethx)

 And the error is: (passed command to execl is ifup eth0)
 This command should be called as ifup, ifdown, or ifquery

 Any pointers as to what is the cause are appreciated.

 You might get lucky by sending execl the full path to ifup, perhaps
 it's /sbin/ifup and execl didn't send the environment.



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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-27 Thread Edward Bartolo
Also successfully detected multiple simultaneously active connections
from Lazarus code. The next step will be to implement network
connection identification in C code.

After that, I will do my next commit to git.devuan.org


Automatic searching for Wifi hotspots probably will need a separate
thread to simplify the code, although I am confident this can be
achieved from the main thread without crippling it. However, without a
separate thread, the code will be far more complex and difficult to
read.

I am opting for a separate thread.

Edward

On 27/08/2015, Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote:
 It worked.

 Now, I must find a way to determine whether we can communicate with a
 router. Found that also.

 ip a | grep wlan0
 With wifi switched on and connection active: state UP

 With wifi turned off and connection still active: state DOWN

 That is what I need.


 Edward

 On 27/08/2015, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:40:49 +0100
 Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I added another function to core_functions.c. It attempts to connect
 to eth0 but for some weird reason, probably a bug not from our part,
 it is failing.

 The function is:  int connectWired(const char ethx)

 And the error is: (passed command to execl is ifup eth0)
 This command should be called as ifup, ifdown, or ifquery

 Any pointers as to what is the cause are appreciated.

 You might get lucky by sending execl the full path to ifup, perhaps
 it's /sbin/ifup and execl didn't send the environment.



 SteveT

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Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-27 Thread fsmithred
On 08/27/2015 09:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
 
 Where can I find and download the latest Devuan capable of being run on
 Qemu (I assume this means an ISO, unless someone knows another way to
 do it).
 

If you mean live-ISO, I made one today from an up-to-date alpha2-amd64
netinstall installation in virtualbox. Minimal changes -
added some live-* packages, refracta tools and dependencies.
removed systemd libpam-systemd systemd-shim and the stuff that pulled out
with it.

788MB. This is not an official devuan release (not an official refracta
release, either.)

I could upload it if anyone is interested.

fsr


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Re: [DNG] wpa_supplicant/ifup integration documentation

2015-08-27 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:29:31AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
 Le 25/08/2015 03:40, Isaac Dunham a ??crit :
 For your perusal, here's an overview of how they work together; it's a 100+
 line summary.
 If anyone wants more details, here are some sources:
 Manual pages:
 interfaces(5), wpa_supplicant.conf(5), wpa_supplicant(8), wpa_cli(8),
 wpa_action(8).
 Scripts:
 /sbin/wpa_action
 /etc/network/if-*.d/wpasupplicant
 /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.sh
 (/etc/wpa_supplicant/functions.sh is going to be needed if you want a
 low-level understanding of what's going on; the script authors have an
 exceptional capacity for indirection.)

 You will need to read the scripts for a practical understanding of how
 it works, but the interfaces, wpa_cli, and wpa_action manpages are rather
 helpful for understanding the glue.
 
 Thanks, Isaac, I had made my best to RTFM :-) but what I couldn't find
 is how the line wpa_roam ... is passed to the script.

Did you look at the summary I attached?

 Here is the idea I got from looking at the scripts. Any line following
 the iface line is interpreted by ifup in the following way before invoking
 all the scripts:
 
 The first token in the line is capitallized and prefixed with IF_,
 then, an environment variable with this name is created and its  value is
 the rest of the line. Each line following the iface line is treated like
 this and all the scripts can then check the enviroment variables. This is

Correct.
man 5 interfaces, IFACE OPTIONS (just over INET ADDRESS FAMILY):
   Additionally,  all  options given in an interface definition stanza are
   exported to the environment in upper case with IF_ prepended and with
   hyphens  converted  to underscores and non-alphanumeric characters dis-
   carded.

 not the whole story though, since I remember it is also possible to put
 command lines -- I did it a few years ago to configure bonding interfaces.

In man 5 interfaces, IFACE OPTIONS, at the top, see the descriptions of
pre-up, up, post-up, pre-down, down, and post-down options.

These, as well as scripts in /etc/network/if-*.d, are run directly by ifup.

 Therefore, asserting all this is still on my todo list, and maybe the
 only way is to look at the source of ifup, althoug I would have preferred a
 more authoritative description. For now, my feeling is still that it makes
 little sense to set up a parallel framework when what is missing is only a
 tinier version of wpa_gui, and maybe first a curses version.

wpa_config is supposed to be that curses version, though I'm sure it's
a long way off.
I could make something similar to wpa_config but using wpa_cli more
rather than writing a config file; *however*, this would be harder to
edit and would lose comments if you make the changes permanent.

Anyhow, ifup/wpa_supplicant integration features two paths:
-roaming/user-specified config file, as shown in wpa_action(8)
 Here, you have two files: interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf
 wpa_config (but not the rest of wpanet) works with this method,
 and might eventually be enhanced for static configuration via this
 method.

-configuration in /etc/network/interfaces
 Here, you specify
...
wpa-ssid mynetwork
wpa-psk  topsecret
 in the configuration for a logical interface.
 Presumably, one *could* parse 
 iwlist IFACE scanning
 in a mapping script, though it's a brittle approach.

Edward and tilt! seem to be working on a tool that simply writes
a new interfaces file for the second approach.
wpanet is a knockoff of the first, originally intended for Busybox-based
systems.

HTH,
Isaac Dunham

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Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-27 Thread fsmithred
On 08/27/2015 08:47 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:23:43 -0400
 fsmithred fsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 08/27/2015 09:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

 Where can I find and download the latest Devuan capable of being
 run on Qemu (I assume this means an ISO, unless someone knows
 another way to do it).


 If you mean live-ISO, I made one today from an up-to-date alpha2-amd64
 netinstall installation in virtualbox. 
 
 I'm interested. Please uploade it.
 
 Another interest: Where can I find an up-to-date alpha2-amd64
 netinstall ISO? 
 
 
 

Official downloads:
http://files.devuan.org/

Unofficial devuan-alpha2-amd64-live:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/other/

The live iso is still uploading. Give it until at least 10:15pm EDT
Thursday (2:15am UTC Friday) to finish. Should be 788MB.

fsr

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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-27 Thread Edward Bartolo
I am trying to write a C function to start the wired network
interfaces eth0, eth1 up to eth2. This is how I wrote it, but I would
like your opinion about it especially where I should declare err.

The attachment is best viewed with medit with a tab space of 2.


On 27/08/2015, Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think it is necessary to daemonise the backend as connection
 to and disconnecting from a network is not something that is done
 continuously. Therefore, in my humble opinion, running the backend on
 request seems to be the best approach. This also avoids additional
 complexity of requiring a dedicated init script. An SUID belonging to
 root is enough for the backend to be allowed privileges automatically
 whenever it is invoked. This means, the post installation script will
 only need to chmod u+s backend and create a launcher on user
 request.

 I will now test an installation to /usr/bin of both backend and
 frontend using an SUID for the backend. If everthing goes well, it
 would mean, the time for an ALPHA release of a .deb package for
 netman, is possible now.

 I included more functionality in the frontend to recognise the
 existence of an /etc/network/interfaces displaying and option to
 connect to eth0 if that is found. I also included a compiler
 conditional directive to compile the frontend so as to bypass the
 requirement of sudo.

 When I am ready, and I think the project can be package, I will upload
 to git.devuan.org


 Edward

 On 26/08/2015, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:27:57PM +0200, tilt! wrote:
 On 08/26/2015 01:36 PM, Irrwahn wrote:
 [...]
 Or, even better, you could easily pass the IF name as an additional
 parameter to the backend (and possily even use it as additional
  component
 to construct the interface file names).

 An easy way to obtain a list of interface names on Linux is:

 awk 'NR2{gsub(/:/,);print $1}' /proc/net/dev

 Or ls /sys/class/net.
 For listing non-loopback devices only, use
 ls -d /sys/class/net/*/device | cut -d/ -f5

 For wireless, check for the files phy80211 or wireless.

 The equivalent can be done trivially in C with readdir(); ask if you'd
 like
 an example.

 HTH,
 Isaac Dunham
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[DNG] replacing kernel 3.16.0-4

2015-08-27 Thread aitor_czr
Replacing the kernel is very easy. The problem is in debian-installer. 
We need to add all the modules in it, and it is a titanic work 
(exaggerating :-).


But it is possible.

Mmmmh..., there must be a consensus about this issue in VUA's for 
official images.


Aitor.

On 26/08/15 17:55, Haines Brown hai...@histomat.net wrote:

I've already tried your patience with a query about why xrandr tells me
my display uses VGA 1024x768 when it shows my video card supports DVI
1920x1080. I hope you will bear with me if I pursue the matter.

I am told that because selection of optimal resolution is today done by
the kernel, my 3.16.0-4 kernel therefore has a bug. I find significant
that kernel.org skips this kernel for possible downloading. Is anyone
else experiencing this problem?

I'm loading fluxbox on devuan-jessie without a desktop environment. When
I edit the linux line in the GRUB menu by appending video=VGA-1:d, the
display comes up with the proper DVI 1920x1080 resolution. Does this not
show that the kernel is sick?

So I'd like to use a different kernel, but there are no alternatives in
the devuan repository. How then should I install an alternative kernel?

Some time ago I tried to install devuan testing and it failed right away
for reasons I forget. Is the testing installation option actually
working?

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Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-27 Thread Edward Bartolo
I don't think it is necessary to daemonise the backend as connection
to and disconnecting from a network is not something that is done
continuously. Therefore, in my humble opinion, running the backend on
request seems to be the best approach. This also avoids additional
complexity of requiring a dedicated init script. An SUID belonging to
root is enough for the backend to be allowed privileges automatically
whenever it is invoked. This means, the post installation script will
only need to chmod u+s backend and create a launcher on user
request.

I will now test an installation to /usr/bin of both backend and
frontend using an SUID for the backend. If everthing goes well, it
would mean, the time for an ALPHA release of a .deb package for
netman, is possible now.

I included more functionality in the frontend to recognise the
existence of an /etc/network/interfaces displaying and option to
connect to eth0 if that is found. I also included a compiler
conditional directive to compile the frontend so as to bypass the
requirement of sudo.

When I am ready, and I think the project can be package, I will upload
to git.devuan.org


Edward

On 26/08/2015, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:27:57PM +0200, tilt! wrote:
 On 08/26/2015 01:36 PM, Irrwahn wrote:
 [...]
 Or, even better, you could easily pass the IF name as an additional
 parameter to the backend (and possily even use it as additional component
 to construct the interface file names).

 An easy way to obtain a list of interface names on Linux is:

 awk 'NR2{gsub(/:/,);print $1}' /proc/net/dev

 Or ls /sys/class/net.
 For listing non-loopback devices only, use
 ls -d /sys/class/net/*/device | cut -d/ -f5

 For wireless, check for the files phy80211 or wireless.

 The equivalent can be done trivially in C with readdir(); ask if you'd like
 an example.

 HTH,
 Isaac Dunham
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Re: [DNG] wpa_supplicant/ifup integration documentation

2015-08-27 Thread Didier Kryn

Le 25/08/2015 03:40, Isaac Dunham a écrit :

For your perusal, here's an overview of how they work together; it's a 100+
line summary.
If anyone wants more details, here are some sources:
Manual pages:
interfaces(5), wpa_supplicant.conf(5), wpa_supplicant(8), wpa_cli(8),
wpa_action(8).
Scripts:
/sbin/wpa_action
/etc/network/if-*.d/wpasupplicant
/etc/wpa_supplicant/*.sh
(/etc/wpa_supplicant/functions.sh is going to be needed if you want a
low-level understanding of what's going on; the script authors have an
exceptional capacity for indirection.)

You will need to read the scripts for a practical understanding of how
it works, but the interfaces, wpa_cli, and wpa_action manpages are rather
helpful for understanding the glue.


Thanks, Isaac, I had made my best to RTFM :-) but what I couldn't 
find is how the line wpa_roam ... is passed to the script.


Here is the idea I got from looking at the scripts. Any line 
following the iface line is interpreted by ifup in the following way 
before invoking all the scripts:


The first token in the line is capitallized and prefixed with 
IF_, then, an environment variable with this name is created and its  
value is the rest of the line. Each line following the iface line is 
treated like this and all the scripts can then check the enviroment 
variables. This is not the whole story though, since I remember it is 
also possible to put command lines -- I did it a few years ago to 
configure bonding interfaces.


Therefore, asserting all this is still on my todo list, and maybe 
the only way is to look at the source of ifup, althoug I would have 
preferred a more authoritative description. For now, my feeling is still 
that it makes little sense to set up a parallel framework when what is 
missing is only a tinier version of wpa_gui, and maybe first a curses 
version.


Thanks.
Didier

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Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:23:43 -0400
fsmithred fsmith...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 08/27/2015 09:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
  
  Where can I find and download the latest Devuan capable of being
  run on Qemu (I assume this means an ISO, unless someone knows
  another way to do it).
  
 
 If you mean live-ISO, I made one today from an up-to-date alpha2-amd64
 netinstall installation in virtualbox. 

I'm interested. Please uploade it.

Another interest: Where can I find an up-to-date alpha2-amd64
netinstall ISO? 



SteveT

Steve Litt 
August 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust
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Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-27 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 8/27/15, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?
 To: dng@lists.dyne.org
 Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015, 7:47 PM
 
 Another interest: Where can I find an up-to-date alpha2-amd64 netinstall ISO? 



 
 http://files.devuan.org/


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