[DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
Since udev is an essential package, I am posting the output from apt-get install -s eudev. Please, excuse my extra caution. udev still seems to be installed although the version number is a weird 1.0.0. Quote from terminal: - root@edbarx-pc3:/home/edbarx# apt-get install -s eudev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: libeudev-dev libeudev1 libudev-dev libudev1 udev The following NEW packages will be installed: eudev libeudev-dev libeudev1 The following packages will be upgraded: libudev-dev libudev1 udev 3 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 44 not upgraded. Inst libudev-dev [232-25+deb9u1] (1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [all]) [] Inst libeudev-dev (3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [amd64]) [] Inst udev [232-25+deb9u1] (1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [all]) [] Inst eudev (3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [amd64]) [] Inst libudev1 [232-25+deb9u1] (1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [all]) [] Inst libeudev1 (3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [amd64]) Conf libeudev1 (3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [amd64]) Conf libudev-dev (1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [all]) Conf libeudev-dev (3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [amd64]) Conf udev (1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [all]) Conf eudev (3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [amd64]) Conf libudev1 (1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 Master:1.0.0/experimental [all]) --- Is this OK? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Debian Busters latest kernel
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 09:58:40PM +, Rowland Penny wrote: > > Hi, a guy has just asked a question on the samba mailing list about > apparmor and Samba, it seems that last week, apparmor became a > dependency for the kernel on Buster, because of systemd. Uhh, it's no dependency, merely a Recommends:. You're free to drop it, although in which case you need to boot with apparmor=0. > Can I take it this dependency will be removed in Beowulf ? It looks like apparmor causes some problems, but like many security hardening measures, it might or might not be worth it in the end. That's why the announcement says it will be reevaluated before Buster's freeze. Apparmor guys tested it for a long time as non-default, and only then pushed as the default for wider testing. If you don't want to help them by reporting issues, just disable it (apparmor=0 or build a kernel that doesn't load apparmor by default). I have enough on my plate so I opted out this way, too! But testing by people who run Devuan is especially valuable: you're more likely to find bugs that trigger when running without systemd. And bugs are easy to fix before the release... Enabling any LSM by default has such problems. I for one want to block '\n' and bytes 1-31,127 in file names as IMHO they have no legitimate use but cause problems, including security ones. A simple patch to ban them was NACKed and I was told to re-do this as a LSM. Which I'm going to do, and once tested, I'll harass Debian's kernel maintainers to enable by default. Thus, feel forewarned if you value your freedom to have \n in file names by default. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Mozilla's Hippocritical Oath: "Keep trackers off your trail" ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ blah blah evading "tracking technology" blah blah ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ "https://click.e.mozilla.org/?qs=e7bb0dcf14b1013fca3820..."; ⠈⠳⣄ (same for all links) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
On 27/11/17 10:42, Jaromil wrote: dear DNG readers, for those who have Devuan ASCII running, we have a package of eudev in experimental to test and feedback is very welcome, since this is the candidate package to substitute udev. eudev is maintained upstream by talented people at Gentoo who definitely deserve our praise. Beware this package DOES NOT WORK ON Jessie. For your convenience an ASCII based qcow2 image and vagrant box is publicly available via the DECODE project (Devuan derivative) https://files.dyne.org/decode/OS/ So when you are running ASCII already then all you have to do is add the experimental repository to your apt sources.list with this line deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main then apt update and apt-get -t experimental install eudev currently, the full version of the package is 3.2.2-devuan2.7 those who were already testing our eudev package need to specify the full version, since we are switching to correct semantic versioning and dropping the "220" prefix inherited by bad versioning practices in udev: apt-get -t experimental install eudev=3.2.2-devuan2.7 According to our tests it installs and it boots! ii eudev 3.2.2-devuan2.7 ii libeudev1:amd643.2.2-devuan2.7 ii libudev1 1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 ii udev 1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 It goes the other way, too. apt-get install udev=232-25+deb9u1 libudev1=232-25+deb9u1 Still reboots. Just a config file remains. Not a problem. rc eudev 3.2.2-devuan2.7 ii libudev1:amd64 232-25+deb9u1 ii udev 232-25+deb9u1 Among long term considerations on the advantages this move brings us, the immediate catch is that by installing eudev you will not see anymore the string "systemd" appear in your process list. For reports please use this thread (same subject!) or our git issues https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/eudev Many thanks to all the Devuan team for the work being done towards ASCII and in particular to Parazyd and Svante Signell for maintaining the package and giving it the love it deserves. Wish you all a great week. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng I have been using the 220-eudev from experimental for awhile on my old Intel Apple iMac. I did the sudo apt-get -t experimental install eudev=3.2.2-devuan2.7 there was a whinge about eudev being downgraded and then I rebooted. Everything is still working fine. DaveT ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Debian Busters latest kernel
On 27/11/17 21:58, Rowland Penny wrote: Hi, a guy has just asked a question on the samba mailing list about apparmor and Samba, it seems that last week, apparmor became a dependency for the kernel on Buster, because of systemd. Can I take it this dependency will be removed in Beowulf ? Rowland ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng What debian gets up to on 'testing' = Buster and 'unstable' = sid can be interesting at times. If that dependency on apparmor is now in Buster I would expect it to be in sid having proved itself as a 'good thing'. Having just checked my sid install there are no signs of apparmor being a dependency for the kernel or for Samba. DaveT ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Debian Busters latest kernel
Hi, a guy has just asked a question on the samba mailing list about apparmor and Samba, it seems that last week, apparmor became a dependency for the kernel on Buster, because of systemd. Can I take it this dependency will be removed in Beowulf ? Rowland ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
KatolaZ wrote on 27.11.2017 12:11: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:42:04AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: [SNIP] >> >> apt-get -t experimental install eudev >> >> currently, the full version of the package is 3.2.2-devuan2.7 [SNIP] > > A more extensive testing of istallation in different multiarch > environments would be welcome. But with pleasure. :-) Flawless installation via aptitude in interactive mode on my amd64 (+foreign-arch i386) kitchen-sink desktop machine running up-to-date ASCII, replacing: udev 232-25+deb9u1 with: eudev 3.2.2-devuan2.7 Aptitude's second suggestion was the correct resolution for replacing the foreign architecture library libudev1:i386 with its libeudev1:i386 counterpart. (To be fair, given the way the priorities are set, aptitude couldn't have possibly decided that on its own, as long as eudev resides only in experimental.) No irregularities or apparent regressions after rebooting the machine. Thanks guys, and congratulations, that looks just fine! Best regards Urban ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 13:07:45 + KatolaZ wrote: > Nope, it shouldnt: > > $ apt-cache policy eudev > eudev: > Installed: 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > Candidate: 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > Version table: >*** 3.2.2-devuan2.7 100 > 100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan > experimental/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > My2Cents > > KatolaZ > Guess I should have had a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/experimental that contained Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 100 You lives and you learns! Many Thanks ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:52:10PM +, leloft wrote: > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 11:11:20 + > KatolaZ wrote: > > > A more extensive testing of istallation in different multiarch > > environments would be welcome. > > > > HND > > > > KatolaZ > > > Seems good to me: > > $dpkg --print-architecture > amd64 > $ dpkg --print-foreign-architectures > i386 > $ apt-cache policy eudev > eudev: > Installed: 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > Candidate: 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > Version table: > *** 3.2.2-devuan2.7 500 > 500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental/main > amd64 Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > Footnote: > >There is nothing wrong in having experimental in your sources.list. It > >gets Priority: 100, so nothing would be accidentally installed from > >experimental. You have to specify "-t experimental". > > Just for my own understanding, does the (presumably deliberate) use of > the -t option assign it the higher priority (500)? > Nope, it shouldnt: $ apt-cache policy eudev eudev: Installed: 3.2.2-devuan2.7 Candidate: 3.2.2-devuan2.7 Version table: *** 3.2.2-devuan2.7 100 100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan experimental/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 11:11:20 + KatolaZ wrote: > A more extensive testing of istallation in different multiarch > environments would be welcome. > > HND > > KatolaZ > Seems good to me: $dpkg --print-architecture amd64 $ dpkg --print-foreign-architectures i386 $ apt-cache policy eudev eudev: Installed: 3.2.2-devuan2.7 Candidate: 3.2.2-devuan2.7 Version table: *** 3.2.2-devuan2.7 500 500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Footnote: >There is nothing wrong in having experimental in your sources.list. It >gets Priority: 100, so nothing would be accidentally installed from >experimental. You have to specify "-t experimental". Just for my own understanding, does the (presumably deliberate) use of the -t option assign it the higher priority (500)? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Mo den 27. Nov 2017 um 11:42 schrieb Jaromil: > for those who have Devuan ASCII running, we have a package of eudev in > experimental to test and feedback is very welcome, since this is the > candidate package to substitute udev. eudev is maintained upstream by > talented people at Gentoo who definitely deserve our praise. [...] > apt-get -t experimental install eudev Works great! Finally I could get rid of one more pötering-crap! This just works after the need to stick forever with version 215-18 of udev as later versions was just broken. (With later versions of udev the system would not reboot and heavy boot delays of 10 minutes and more) This eudev package just work and it feels faster than udev 215-18. If you ever come to the area of Zürich, I owe you a beer or two. :-) Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEMWF28vh4/UMJJLQEpnwKsYAZ9qwFAlocCgwACgkQpnwKsYAZ 9qyijQwAhO5Grtj1mXRvpmem9dwTQsJ1E7g6ECG9sVYJppmfDzHvSUOeJfd1NcZd PIKSYZ8qHdyqrpr6hqO+aygiOUlB5QxcgQVKM5fR2ck+J+ug+wEXbg0NuQa16n0S w+sN0U1oV5aRAVY4Xy/s6qzgeKe3ZinviLNWGXeodWn+uV6rz1qPt/0l2RKGu2b1 hGuZPqWw1KzyHbdBMmsmkfGo7tm8dM0HN3Yr1OVwn1OX+CKijogkArXT+UJNNydW e1HiDYPtw5naY5/7UqBGJwDCrsFd6y7sfIh0iFLtY6GHrUwfqqSU4y8TPz8Px/fh eohWgiMc0T3cdZdwlAscbvKtrVSd1EJ2jX2yyN6YOJdkE+TMifVLPplIds1bzv+n 0e1AYHSytqXrnwWonOqowkb0y5Kf5aoZL+Dq/r2iKa6JlNL9V8fOD1YmRLVVRh9P P2+TJSDmyWzzjsVKT9xF+OXJJp7IdWUVRcw+AxaIa2BjGknVfqe47uYF9daN6K8V P/Z6XfUB =/aO/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 01:05:22PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Can I install eudev without having to use the experimental repository? Yes, but you should wait until it gets in the main repo :) There is nothing wrong in having experimental in your sources.list. It gets Priority: 100, so nothing would be accidentally installed from experimental. You have to specify "-t experimental". HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
On Mon, 2017-11-27 at 13:05 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Can I install eudev without having to use the experimental repository? Add experimental temporarily to sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get download udev, etc., remove eperimental from sources.list HTH ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Package naming: Was Re: eudev in experimental for ascii
On Mon, 2017-11-27 at 11:11 +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:42:04AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > > > Dear D1rs, > > it looks like the package might have hiccups when multiarch is > enabled. In particular, it seems that on amd64 with multiarch enabled > and i386 active, the i386 package gets installed instead than the > amd64 one. If this happens to you, just > > apt-get -t experimental install eudev:amd64 > > before rebooting, and please report it. > > A more extensive testing of istallation in different multiarch > environments would be welcome. I'll soon have a lintian clean version of the transitional packages. And hopefully correct multiarch settings. I have a proposal about package naming: Let's consider ASCII: X = 2 Devuan native packages, e.g. udev: 3.2.2+devuanX.Y, format 3.0: (native) X.Y = 2, 2.1, ... Devuan packages with upstream, not in Debian e.g. eudev: 3.2.2-Y+devuanX, format: 3.0 (quilt) X = 2, Y = 1, 2, ... Devuan packages forked from Debian, e.g. sysvinit-core 2.88dsf-59.9+devuanX.Y format: 3.0 (quilt) X.Y = 2, 2.1, ... Unfortunately format (git) is not officially supported. This naming hopefully simplifies the number of overrides needed in the lintian- overrides file. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
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Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:11:20AM +, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] > > Dear D1rs, > > it looks like the package might have hiccups when multiarch is > enabled. In particular, it seems that on amd64 with multiarch enabled > and i386 active, the i386 package gets installed instead than the > amd64 one. If this happens to you, just > > apt-get -t experimental install eudev:amd64 > > before rebooting, and please report it. > > A more extensive testing of istallation in different multiarch > environments would be welcome. > I forgot to say that, apart from the hiccup mentioned above (which could well be due to the fact that I had used previous versions of eudev from experimental), eudev has been working brilliantly for me in the last 6 months or so, in different ascii installations :) HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:42:04AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > > dear DNG readers, > > for those who have Devuan ASCII running, we have a package of eudev in > experimental to test and feedback is very welcome, since this is the > candidate package to substitute udev. eudev is maintained upstream by > talented people at Gentoo who definitely deserve our praise. > > Beware this package DOES NOT WORK ON Jessie. > > For your convenience an ASCII based qcow2 image and vagrant box is > publicly available via the DECODE project (Devuan derivative) > https://files.dyne.org/decode/OS/ > > So when you are running ASCII already then all you have to do is add the > experimental repository to your apt sources.list with this line > > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > > then apt update and > > apt-get -t experimental install eudev > > currently, the full version of the package is 3.2.2-devuan2.7 Dear D1rs, it looks like the package might have hiccups when multiarch is enabled. In particular, it seems that on amd64 with multiarch enabled and i386 active, the i386 package gets installed instead than the amd64 one. If this happens to you, just apt-get -t experimental install eudev:amd64 before rebooting, and please report it. A more extensive testing of istallation in different multiarch environments would be welcome. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
I forgot to mention: RDX drives got full funtionality back again :-) Am Montag, 27. November 2017 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: > Hi! > > > Am Montag, 27. November 2017 schrieb Jaromil: > > > > dear DNG readers, > > > > for those who have Devuan ASCII running, we have a package of eudev in > > experimental to test and feedback is very welcome, since this is the > > candidate package to substitute udev. eudev is maintained upstream by > > talented people at Gentoo who definitely deserve our praise. > > > > Beware this package DOES NOT WORK ON Jessie. > > > > For your convenience an ASCII based qcow2 image and vagrant box is > > publicly available via the DECODE project (Devuan derivative) > > https://files.dyne.org/decode/OS/ > > > > So when you are running ASCII already then all you have to do is add the > > experimental repository to your apt sources.list with this line > > > > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > > > > then apt update and > > > > apt-get -t experimental install eudev > > > > currently, the full version of the package is 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > > > > those who were already testing our eudev package need to specify the > > full version, since we are switching to correct semantic versioning > > and dropping the "220" prefix inherited by bad versioning practices in > > udev: > > > > apt-get -t experimental install eudev=3.2.2-devuan2.7 > > > > According to our tests it installs and it boots! > > > > ii eudev 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > > ii libeudev1:amd643.2.2-devuan2.7 > > ii libudev1 1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 > > ii udev 1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 > > > > It goes the other way, too. > > > > apt-get install udev=232-25+deb9u1 libudev1=232-25+deb9u1 > > > > Still reboots. Just a config file remains. Not a problem. > > > > rc eudev 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > > ii libudev1:amd64 232-25+deb9u1 > > ii udev 232-25+deb9u1 > > > > Among long term considerations on the advantages this move brings us, > > the immediate catch is that by installing eudev you will not see > > anymore the string "systemd" appear in your process list. > > > > For reports please use this thread (same subject!) or our git issues > > > > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/eudev > > > > Many thanks to all the Devuan team for the work being done towards > > ASCII and in particular to Parazyd and Svante Signell for maintaining > > the package and giving it the love it deserves. > > > > Wish you all a great week. > > > > ciao > > > I just installed it on my laptop and after reboot all devices that have lost > hotplugging notification ability (cdrom, sdcard and "some" usb devices) in > the last years work again :-) > > Thank you very much! > > Nik > > > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
Hi! Am Montag, 27. November 2017 schrieb Jaromil: > > dear DNG readers, > > for those who have Devuan ASCII running, we have a package of eudev in > experimental to test and feedback is very welcome, since this is the > candidate package to substitute udev. eudev is maintained upstream by > talented people at Gentoo who definitely deserve our praise. > > Beware this package DOES NOT WORK ON Jessie. > > For your convenience an ASCII based qcow2 image and vagrant box is > publicly available via the DECODE project (Devuan derivative) > https://files.dyne.org/decode/OS/ > > So when you are running ASCII already then all you have to do is add the > experimental repository to your apt sources.list with this line > > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > > then apt update and > > apt-get -t experimental install eudev > > currently, the full version of the package is 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > > those who were already testing our eudev package need to specify the > full version, since we are switching to correct semantic versioning > and dropping the "220" prefix inherited by bad versioning practices in > udev: > > apt-get -t experimental install eudev=3.2.2-devuan2.7 > > According to our tests it installs and it boots! > > ii eudev 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > ii libeudev1:amd643.2.2-devuan2.7 > ii libudev1 1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 > ii udev 1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 > > It goes the other way, too. > > apt-get install udev=232-25+deb9u1 libudev1=232-25+deb9u1 > > Still reboots. Just a config file remains. Not a problem. > > rc eudev 3.2.2-devuan2.7 > ii libudev1:amd64 232-25+deb9u1 > ii udev 232-25+deb9u1 > > Among long term considerations on the advantages this move brings us, > the immediate catch is that by installing eudev you will not see > anymore the string "systemd" appear in your process list. > > For reports please use this thread (same subject!) or our git issues > > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/eudev > > Many thanks to all the Devuan team for the work being done towards > ASCII and in particular to Parazyd and Svante Signell for maintaining > the package and giving it the love it deserves. > > Wish you all a great week. > > ciao I just installed it on my laptop and after reboot all devices that have lost hotplugging notification ability (cdrom, sdcard and "some" usb devices) in the last years work again :-) Thank you very much! Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii
dear DNG readers, for those who have Devuan ASCII running, we have a package of eudev in experimental to test and feedback is very welcome, since this is the candidate package to substitute udev. eudev is maintained upstream by talented people at Gentoo who definitely deserve our praise. Beware this package DOES NOT WORK ON Jessie. For your convenience an ASCII based qcow2 image and vagrant box is publicly available via the DECODE project (Devuan derivative) https://files.dyne.org/decode/OS/ So when you are running ASCII already then all you have to do is add the experimental repository to your apt sources.list with this line deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main then apt update and apt-get -t experimental install eudev currently, the full version of the package is 3.2.2-devuan2.7 those who were already testing our eudev package need to specify the full version, since we are switching to correct semantic versioning and dropping the "220" prefix inherited by bad versioning practices in udev: apt-get -t experimental install eudev=3.2.2-devuan2.7 According to our tests it installs and it boots! ii eudev 3.2.2-devuan2.7 ii libeudev1:amd643.2.2-devuan2.7 ii libudev1 1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 ii udev 1:3.2.2-devuan2.7 It goes the other way, too. apt-get install udev=232-25+deb9u1 libudev1=232-25+deb9u1 Still reboots. Just a config file remains. Not a problem. rc eudev 3.2.2-devuan2.7 ii libudev1:amd64 232-25+deb9u1 ii udev 232-25+deb9u1 Among long term considerations on the advantages this move brings us, the immediate catch is that by installing eudev you will not see anymore the string "systemd" appear in your process list. For reports please use this thread (same subject!) or our git issues https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/eudev Many thanks to all the Devuan team for the work being done towards ASCII and in particular to Parazyd and Svante Signell for maintaining the package and giving it the love it deserves. Wish you all a great week. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
