Re: [DNG] Any idea

[KatolaZ]

On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 12:05:31AM +0100, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:

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> 
> It would help if we have a definition of stable. And to attract people for
> larger scale testing maybe we should release a "official" beta.
>

The definition of stable is always the same: "Without known
release-critical bugs". Then other distros have their own personal
interpretation of "stable", which include stuff that is not even of
beta quality, but that's another story.

I guess it's better to call something "beta" and then realise that it
could have been called "stable", rather than the opposite.

HND

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Re: [DNG] Any idea

[info at smallinnovations dot nl]

On 08-01-18 23:23, KatolaZ wrote:

On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 07:17:39PM -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

when ASCII will be declared stable ?


When it's ready.


Is it a question of weeks ? months ?


We shouldn't be too far, but I guess thec correct answer is still
"when it's ready".

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It would help if we have a definition of stable. And to attract people 
for larger scale testing maybe we should release a "official" beta.


Grtz.

Nick
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Re: [DNG] Any idea

[Hendrik Boom]

On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 11:30:56PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Monday 08 January 2018 at 23:17:39, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> 
> > when ASCII will be declared stable ?
> 
> It'll be declared stable when it turns out that it is stable.
> 
> If we could predict that sort of thing in advance, I think we'd be making a 
> lot more money than we do now.
> 
> > Is it a question of weeks ? months ?
> 
> Do you prefer 12 of one or 3 of the other?

Three months is about 13 weeks.  :}

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Re: [DNG] Any idea

[Antony Stone]

On Monday 08 January 2018 at 23:17:39, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

> when ASCII will be declared stable ?

It'll be declared stable when it turns out that it is stable.

If we could predict that sort of thing in advance, I think we'd be making a 
lot more money than we do now.

> Is it a question of weeks ? months ?

Do you prefer 12 of one or 3 of the other?

(I'm not saying for a moment that that's any guide at all to when stability 
will be declared.)


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Re: [DNG] Any idea

[Hendrik Boom]

On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 07:17:39PM -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> when ASCII will be declared stable ?
> 
> Is it a question of weeks ? months ?

My uneducated guess, as a mere user, judging from how well it runs on my laptop,
is a few months.

On the other hand, I thought that of Jessie at least a year before it was 
released.

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Re: [DNG] Any idea

[KatolaZ]

On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 07:17:39PM -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> when ASCII will be declared stable ?
> 

When it's ready.

> Is it a question of weeks ? months ?
>

We shouldn't be too far, but I guess thec correct answer is still
"when it's ready".

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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[DNG] Any idea

[Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI]

when ASCII will be declared stable ?

Is it a question of weeks ? months ?
 
Cheers,
 
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[DNG] Original translation documents (dev1fanboy wiki)

[Chillfan]

This may be somewhat of a long shot as it was a while ago, but I wondered if 
anyone still has what they mailed me when I asked for translations before.

If so please could you mail me a fresh copy of that, except the French and 
Polish pages as I still have those.

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Re: [DNG] bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load intel/ibt-12-16.sfi

[Lars Noodén]

On 01/08/2018 06:24 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Monday 08 January 2018 at 17:20:42, Lars Noodén wrote:
> 
>> The Blueman Assistant appears to let me turn the bluetooth adapter on or
>> off.  However, when I go to actually set up a new device, it claims no
>> adapters found.
>>
>> bluetoothctl can connect to the daemon but cannot find any devices either.
>>  "No default controller available"
> 
> I ran into this the other day.
> 
> You have to run it as root (unlike much of the other bluetooth stuff).

Even running bluetoothctl as root, it still complains about no default
controller available.  From the new dmesg:

 [2.711929] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22
 [2.711938] NET: Registered protocol family 31
 [2.711939] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
 [2.711941] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
 [2.711943] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
 [2.711948] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
 [2.713202] [drm] Memory usable by graphics device = 4096M
 [2.713204] [drm] Replacing VGA console driver
 [2.714734] Console: switching to colour dummy device 80x25
 [2.722975] Bluetooth: HCI UART driver ver 2.3
 [2.722977] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol H4 registered
 [2.722978] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol BCSP registered
 [2.722978] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol LL registered
 [2.722979] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol ATH3K registered
 [2.722979] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol Three-wire (H5) registered
 [2.723011] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol Intel registered
 [2.723021] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol Broadcom registered
 [2.723021] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol QCA registered
 [2.723022] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol AG6XX registered
 [2.723022] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol Marvell registered


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Re: [DNG] bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load intel/ibt-12-16.sfi

[Antony Stone]

On Monday 08 January 2018 at 17:20:42, Lars Noodén wrote:

> The Blueman Assistant appears to let me turn the bluetooth adapter on or
> off.  However, when I go to actually set up a new device, it claims no
> adapters found.
> 
> bluetoothctl can connect to the daemon but cannot find any devices either.
>   "No default controller available"

I ran into this the other day.

You have to run it as root (unlike much of the other bluetooth stuff).


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Re: [DNG] bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load intel/ibt-12-16.sfi

[Lars Noodén]

On 01/08/2018 05:16 PM, Hleb Valoshka wrote:
> On 1/8/18, Lars Noodén  wrote:
>> I'm running Ascii on amd64 and having some trouble with Bluetooth.
>> Here is an excerpt from dmesg(1) where mentions not being able to load
>> the firmware.  Which packages should I be looking at?  Or is there
>> another fix?
> 
> firmware-iwlwifi from non-free

Thanks.  I had not used that repository at all before and have now added
it and the package and the modules seem loaded:

$ lsmod | grep -E 'blue|iwl'
iwlmvm245760  0
mac80211  671744  1 iwlmvm
iwlwifi   151552  1 iwlmvm
cfg80211  589824  3 iwlmvm,iwlwifi,mac80211
bluetooth 552960  13 hci_uart,btintel,btqca,bnep,btbcm
rfkill 24576  5 bluetooth,cfg80211
crc16  16384  2 bluetooth,ext4

The Blueman Assistant appears to let me turn the bluetooth adapter on or
off.  However, when I go to actually set up a new device, it claims no
adapters found.

bluetoothctl can connect to the daemon but cannot find any devices either.
"No default controller available"

/Lars

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Re: [DNG] bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load intel/ibt-12-16.sfi

[Hleb Valoshka]

On 1/8/18, Lars Noodén  wrote:
> I'm running Ascii on amd64 and having some trouble with Bluetooth.
> Here is an excerpt from dmesg(1) where mentions not being able to load
> the firmware.  Which packages should I be looking at?  Or is there
> another fix?


firmware-iwlwifi from non-free

4th link in ddg  gives the aswer.
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[DNG] bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load intel/ibt-12-16.sfi

[Lars Noodén]

I'm running Ascii on amd64 and having some trouble with Bluetooth.
Here is an excerpt from dmesg(1) where mentions not being able to load
the firmware.  Which packages should I be looking at?  Or is there
another fix?

/Lars

 [  592.842465] Bluetooth: hci0: Bootloader revision 0.0
build 26 week 38 2015
 [  592.844699] Bluetooth: hci0: Device revision is 16
 [  592.844701] Bluetooth: hci0: Secure boot is enabled
 [  592.844702] Bluetooth: hci0: OTP lock is enabled
 [  592.844704] Bluetooth: hci0: API lock is enabled
 [  592.844705] Bluetooth: hci0: Debug lock is disabled
 [  592.844707] Bluetooth: hci0: Minimum firmware build 1
week 10 2014
 [  592.844748] bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load
intel/ibt-12-16.sfi (-2)
 [  592.844755] bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for
intel/ibt-12-16.sfi failed with error -2

$ dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2=="install"&&$1~/^blue/'
blueman install
bluemon install
bluetooth   install
bluez   install
bluez-obexd install

$ /usr/sbin/service bluetooth status
bluetooth is running.

$ uname -sr
Linux 4.9.0-5-amd64

$ lsb_release -rd
Description:Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii)
Release:2.0

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Re: [DNG] initial elogind package ready / RFC

[KatolaZ]

On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:08:49PM +0100, Andreas Messer wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I finally managed to prepare inital devuan packages for elogind. 
> I have split up the stuff in multiple packages, sysv init script
> for elogind is prepared. Also a libpam-elogind package is build
> which sets field "Provides: libpam-systemd". Thus I was able to 
> install (and run) Gnome 3 Desktop (gnome-session) with skipping some 
> "Recommends"
> 
> If anyone like to try it out, checkout branch suites/experimental
> from https://git.devuan.org/amesser/elogind.git and build with 
> debbuild. This is my first package, comments are welcome.


Dear Andreas,

that's great news. Let's have it built for experimental so that we can
test it more extensively.

HND

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Meltdown and linux kernel KPTI patch

[Alessandro Selli]

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 at 08:57:10 +
KatolaZ  wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 09:03:16PM +0100, viverna wrote:
>> il devuanizzato KatolaZ  il 06-01-18 19:45:27 ha
>> scritto:  
>> > On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:52:48PM +0100, viverna wrote:  
>> > > When the KPTI patch will be in ascii and jessie?  
>> > The patched kernel is already in ascii, if you have ascii-security
>> > enabled, and comes directly from stretch.  
>> Wonderful, thanks for the {f,w}ork.
>> I don't know but is it possible for Devuan jessie to apply KPTI patch?
>>   
>
> I guess the patch will be available soon from Debian. Just keep an eye
> on:
> 
>   https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5754

  For those who compile their own custom kernels, the patch is in releases
4.9.75 (stable branch) and 4.14.11 (current).  It's the new configuration
item CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION.



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Re: [DNG] Meltdown and linux kernel KPTI patch

[KatolaZ]

On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 09:03:16PM +0100, viverna wrote:
> il devuanizzato KatolaZ  il 06-01-18 19:45:27 ha 
> scritto:
> > On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:52:48PM +0100, viverna wrote:
> > > When the KPTI patch will be in ascii and jessie?
> > The patched kernel is already in ascii, if you have ascii-security
> > enabled, and comes directly from stretch.
> Wonderful, thanks for the {f,w}ork.
> I don't know but is it possible for Devuan jessie to apply KPTI patch?
> 

I guess the patch will be available soon from Debian. Just keep an eye
on:

  https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5754

HND

KatolaZ

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