Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed
Andreas Messer wrote on 19.01.2018 07:16: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 09:26:59PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: >> Outcome is the same when logged in via a VT console, while elogind >> is fully enabled (and ck2 and pk installed). With elogind disabled >> (ck+pk only), no extra authentication is needed. > > That seems strange. loginctl is a elogind command and when elogind does not > know about the session loginctl should reject or ask for auth. And that would make a lot more sense. Maybe it has some kind of fallback implemented? After all, it's elogind, not sd-logind. I sincerely hope we're actually debugging elogind, and not a setup I broke. In the course of the day I will probably find more time to invest in this. Best regards Urban -- Sapere aude! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 09:26:59PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: > Hleb Valoshka wrote on 17.01.2018 20:54: > > [...] > > Can you repeat the same but with a local login? > > Outcome is the same when logged in via a VT console, while elogind > is fully enabled (and ck2 and pk installed). With elogind disabled > (ck+pk only), no extra authentication is needed. That seems strange. loginctl is a elogind command and when elogind does not know about the session loginctl should reject or ask for auth. I'll dig into this a little bit more. Probably time to setup a vm. Cheers, Andreas signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 01:22:13PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > On 1/17/18, Andreas Messer wrote: > > > Btw, "ck-list-sessions" crashes for me: > ... > > Have you rebooted your pc after upgrading CK to CK2? > I believe this crash exist only when one is still running old ck > daemon. Unfortunately it looks like there is no way to replace running That might be the problem. I did not reboot. > [...] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Call for testing: ConsoleKit2
Hello, I just upgraded my Devuan ascii (AMD64) on a Thinkpad X200 with LXQt DE to consolekit from experimental. tl;dr: - powerdown / reboot from LXQt finally work out of the box - no changes in handling of USB pluggable devices and hibernate / suspend behaviour (everything is working fine) If any further testing is desired, please send me a note! Here the details: ### PRE-UPGRADE: - USB pluggable device handling: pcmanfm NO (gvfs not installed) spacefm YES - powerdown / reboot from LXQt do NOT work, instead via powerbutton - hibernate / suspend work fine from LXQt, pm-suspend by lidbutton (acpi) with custom script florian@nullmobil:~$ dpkg -l *udev* # EDITED: ii eudev 3.2.2-9 amd64/dev/ and hotplug management ii libeudev1:amd6 3.2.2-9 amd64libeudev shared library ii libgudev-1.0-0 230-3amd64GObject-based wrapper library ii libudev1:amd64 1:3.2.2+devu amd64Transitional package for libe ii udev 1:3.2.2+devu amd64Transitional package for eude un udevil (no description available) florian@nullmobil:~$ dpkg -l *consolekit* # EDITED: ii consolekit 0.4.6-6 amd64framework for defining and tr florian@nullmobil:~$ dpkg -l *vdev* # EDITED: ii libevdev2:amd6 1.5.6+dfsg-1 amd64wrapper library for evdev dev ### UPGRADE: root@nullmobil:~# printf "deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ experimental main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list root@nullmobil:~# printf "\nPackage: *\nPin: release a=experimental\nPin-Priority: 75\n" >> /etc/apt/preferences.d/avoid_otherrepos root@nullmobil:~# apt-get update root@nullmobil:~# apt-get install consolekit=1.2.1-1~exp2 libck-connector0=1.2.1-1~exp2 libpam-ck-connector=1.2.1-1~exp2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: libcgmanager0 libnih-dbus1 libnih1 The following NEW packages will be installed: libcgmanager0 libnih-dbus1 libnih1 The following packages will be upgraded: consolekit libck-connector0 libpam-ck-connector 3 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 425 kB of archives. After this operation, 609 kB of additional disk space will be used. ### RESULT: No changes in handling of USB pluggable devices and hibernate / suspend behaviour; powerdown and reboot from LXQt are finally working. libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan Missing Icons GdkPixbuf-WARNING
On 01/17/2018 07:21 PM, Lee Gold wrote: > Hi I am trying live iso: > > devuan_jessie_1.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso > > > So far in Synaptic and thunar I get blank windows, I mean all the > expected icons are not there: > > root@devuan:/home/devuan# synaptic > > (synaptic:13561): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader > module file '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': > No such file or directory > > This likely means that your installation is broken. > Try running the command > gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache > Make sure gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 is installed (or better, just reinstall it.) Make sure you have some icons installed. Look in /usr/share/icons and look in the apps menu under Settings, Appearance, Icons. You should see Adwaita, Gnome, Mate, Menta and Tango. Those are my best guesses right now. The installer should have left an error log in your home. There might be some clues there. fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed
Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 11:34: > Le 18/01/2018 à 11:22, Irrwahn a écrit : >> Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 10:38: >> [...] >>> Now it works. Will wait until consolekit2 is available, though, to >>> make a more significant test. I'm using xfce4. >> Didier, >> >> consolekit2 is available in experimental, installs cleanly in ascii. >> Relevant sources.list line: >> deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main > Thanks Urban. > > Fact is I posted my mail yesterday to you instead of dng - by > mistake, and it was rejected - and realized it today. And I sent it > today to the list. > > I'll do the test although haven't the time today. > > Best regards. > Didier Oh, not actually rejected, I just found it in my spam folder. Anyway, you should be white-listed now, just in case. ;-) -- Sapere aude! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed
Le 18/01/2018 à 11:22, Irrwahn a écrit : Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 10:38: [...] Now it works. Will wait until consolekit2 is available, though, to make a more significant test. I'm using xfce4. Didier, consolekit2 is available in experimental, installs cleanly in ascii. Relevant sources.list line: deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main Thanks Urban. Fact is I posted my mail yesterday to you instead of dng - by mistake, and it was rejected - and realized it today. And I sent it today to the list. I'll do the test although haven't the time today. Best regards. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed
Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 10:38: [...] > > Now it works. Will wait until consolekit2 is available, though, to > make a more significant test. I'm using xfce4. Didier, consolekit2 is available in experimental, installs cleanly in ascii. Relevant sources.list line: deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main Best regards Urban -- Sapere aude! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Help with Spectre and Meltdown
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018, Cassandra of Troy wrote: > Much appreciated from lurker(s) as well as the OP. > > Looking forward to unplugging this live USB stick and reading my mail on > Jessie tomorrow morning. :) > > If any of you have the spare time to reply on or offlist, I value your > opinions on whether switching to an AMD processor from a libreboooted > Thinkpad something that an average joe should be prioritizing right now. I am not really sure about this and believe also AMD cpus are affected. here is a good and recent roundup by the folks at LWN https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/744287/82c63dd89360b76a/ and I do recommend subscribing LWN if you want to stay more up to date ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:38:01AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: [cut] > > Here is the message: > > The repository 'http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-proposed Release' > does not have a Release file.Data from such a repository can't be > authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.See > apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration > details. > Hi Didier, please can you tell me (even in private): 1) WHEN it happened, exatcly (timestamp)? 2) has it happened ever again? Thanks for your kind collaboration. KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed
Le 17/01/2018 à 12:22, Irrwahn a écrit : Didier Kryn wrote on 17.01.2018 11:59: Le 15/01/2018 à 11:30, KatolaZ a écrit : The package is now available in Devuan in "ascii-proposed" I've added this repository to my sources.list: deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed main contrib non-free Also added the following line to apt.conf, because synaptic refused to read the repository: acquire::allowinsecurerepositories "yes"; Nevertheless, I can't see neither elogind, nor consolekit2 Uh? Aptitude sees it just fine (and I already installed it in a VM): Origin: None:2.0.0/ascii-proposed, Master:1.0.0/experimental [amd64] Origin URI: http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/e/elogind/elogind_234.4-1+devuan1_amd64.deb and Origin: None:2.0.0/ascii-proposed, Master:1.0.0/experimental [i386] Origin URI: http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/e/elogind/elogind_234.4-1+devuan1_i386.deb You might want to use interactive aptitude instead of synaptic. Alternatively, you could perform a direct download via above URLs. Ck2, OTOH, is not in the repositories yet, due to issues building it using c-i, AIUI. As for the "allowinsecurerepositories" issue: is your devuan-keyring package up-to-date? HTH, best regards Urban Here is the message: The repository 'http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-proposed Release' does not have a Release file.Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. The manpage says that apt-secure, in charge of the check, behaves the same with any front-end, be it aptitude, apt or synaptic. Le 17/01/2018 à 12:25, Hleb Valoshka a écrit : not/merged/ but/devuan/ Now it works. Will wait until consolekit2 is available, though, to make a more significant test. I'm using xfce4. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Call for testing: ConsoleKit2
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 15:51:20 -0800, Mike wrote in message <20180117235120.ga5...@ferrum.home.colug.org>: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 07:02:36PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > > Hi! > > > > ConsoleKit2 has been packaged for experimental (but it's also > > installable in Ascii). > > > > This is an update for the old ConsoleKit and can be installed > > instead of it. > > > > Please help with its testing. What to test: PC stop/hibernate/etc, > > mounting of usb drives and so on under DEs. > > > > === > > deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main > > === > > it seems to want to install eudev. I am currently running vdev. Will > it work together? > ..sort of, install eudev, if it starts fighting vdev eating a cpu core, just stop it with "/etc/init.d/eudev stop ". ..to swap between them, issue e.g. "/etc/init.d/vdev stop \ &&sleep 2 &&/etc/init.d/eudev start ", if that fails, swap back with "/etc/init.d/eudev stop &&sleep 2 \ &&/etc/init.d/vdev start ". -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
