Re: [DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update
Hello Riccardo, >On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 12:19:52 +0100 >Riccardo Mottola via Dng >wrote: > Hi, > > > I am using Devuan on an HP laptop with intel 64bit cpu. Everything > worked very well, I did a lot of compilation and it is very stable, > never had a freeze in months! > > [ 0.10] smpboot: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz > (family: 0x6, model: 0xf, stepping: 0x6) > [ 0.10] Performance Events: PEBS fmt0-, Core2 events, Intel PMU > driver. > [ 0.10] core: PEBS disabled due to CPU errata > > Yesterday I installed a kernel upgrade, bad things happened > > 1) after the first reboot with the new kernel, I get up to my desktop, > check out sources ad start building Arctic Fox browser, come back after > a time and find the machine completely frozen - no disk activity, no > mouse possible, no errors. No response to power button pressed (had to > press 5 seconds) > > 2) at reboot, machine freezes quite early in the boot process > > 3) I retry and it still freezes > > > I tried selecting in GRUB the older kernel and it boots. It goes past > the last error, starts file system check/journal replay and the machine > seems stable again. > > > This is the last good kernel version: > > 4.9.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.189-3+deb9u2 (2019-11-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > the unstable version must be the version 4.9.210-1 installed > > > What could the issue be? I read about backports of spectre mitigations > being possible issues. > * 'linux-image-4.9.0-12' - I believe , brings Meltdown, Spectre and such mitigation's with it, also fix's.. * 'linux-image-4.9.0-11' - Here , sometimes( firefox + youtube videos ), I also have freezes, but the machine ends rebooting.. Don't know why, never found the real reason for it.. If I don't go on youtube, everything works, so focus your self on your taks, and don't be lazy( its what my computer tells me ) :D For a better understanding of the changes, you can check: ~# zless /usr/share/doc/linux-image-$(uname -r)/changelog.Debian.gz I am also in 'linux-image-4.9.0-11'..and I plan to be there for some time.. :) Best Regards, tux -- Best Regards, tuxd3v ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux
On Mar 16, 2020, tom wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 08:38:04 -0400
> Dan Purgert wrote:
>
> > On Mar 15, 2020, tom wrote:
> > > [...] The biggest technical problem is the
> > > lack of ASIC northbridge, or rather something to interface the CPU
> > > to an PCIE bus. Currently the best thing available you can get is
> > > an FPGA and it is a severe bandwidth bottleneck. It's also super
> > > expensive getting an FPGA that beefy enough. I don't see RISCV
> > > going anywhere until this is solved except microcontroller
> > > applications.
> > >
> > > The second problem is patents that prevent RISCV developers from
> > > implementing a lot of popular specs and standards. Just as an
> > > example look at the licensing cost of implementing HDMI vs
> > > DisplayPort.
> >
> > On the one hand, I understand why a "large market audience" device
> > would need HDMI or DisplayPort or the newest whizbang 256K DNA
> > ("Direct Neural Attachment") adapter is ... but why does that need to
> > be on a small-market / hobby computer?
> >
> > I can only speak for myself, but a reasonably open PC at the $400 mark
> > would certainly be competitive to dell or hp; even if it were
> > "limited" in the peripheral interconnect area (assuming, of course,
> > the motherboard's peripheral layout were well documented and people
> > were encouraged to make stuff -- see arduino or rpi expansion boards )
> >
>
> generally you want to be able to attach a video card or high
> performance disk controller to a PCIE slot. you /can/ do these things
> with an FPGA but I wouldn't call it very reliable. You do too many
> things or send too much data over the bus it exceeds the bandwidth and
> the system locks up needing a reset.
I think I wasn't clear enough then. For the sake of discussion, let's
say PCIe is off the table.
What, then, is so bad about PCI? Or hell, even ISA?
Sure, it's super-limiting in terms of what you can buy off the shelf --
but then again, so was the "compatible with Arduino(tm)" market 5-10
years ago (and now look at that mess!)
I guess what I'm trying to ask is what would be so bad about a "RISC-V
Hobby Linux Machine(tm)" only offering these "older" peripheral
connectivity interfaces in interests of being inexpensive and also
preserving end-user freedom?
Or ... maybe I'm just a bit crazier than I thought.
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Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:27:50PM -0300, Gastón wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 03:16:58PM -0800, tom wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:50:15 + > > Mark Hindley wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 05:44:17PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng > > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > is there a recommended GUI package browser for Devuan? > > > > > > > > After migrating, synaptic isn't installed. If I try to install it, > > > > it says it needs policykit-1. Since the latter seems to be akin to > > > > systemd, I reply 'n'. > > > > > > I really don't think that is true. There is no direct relationship > > > between policykit-1 and systemd. And our policykit works with either > > > elogind or consolekit, so you have options. > > > > > > If you want a integrated gui desktop that allows you to do privileged > > > things like install packages, you will need policykit-1 or something > > > similar. > > > > > > Alternatively, use apt or aptitude from the commandline. > > > > > > Mark > > > ___ > > > > Sorry, can you explain why exactly polkit is needed here? What is wrong > > with what everyone was doing before polkit which was gksu or gksudo? > > > gksu is no longer available from Beowulf. Now, apparently, you have to > use: pkexec > > I'm in touch with the GNU/EterTics developer and he's having trouble > running d-i from Live Mode on a beta version with Beowulf he's testing. > > He used to launch the d-i from Live mode using this command: > `su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher`, but su-tu-root is > no longer available. > > When he wants to launch the d-i from Live mode using this command: > `pkexec /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher` , the installer does not > start in GUI mode. > > Yesterday we tried several alternatives, like this one, but without > success: > > We tried running it this way: > `pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY > /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher` , with this it tries to open a > window, but closes immediately. > > We couldn't get pkexec to run the d-I in GUI mode from live-version. > Nor is there much documentation about its use available. > > Has anyone been through this using pkexec? > > Hi again, thank you very much for all the suggestions that you shared with us. Finally we find a solution. What was the problem? If we created an ISO image of Devuan Beowulf with Mate, and we wanted to run d-i from live mode, it did not run in GUI mode, it opened in text mode. Using su-to-root and pkexec. On the other hand, if we tried the same from a Devuan Beowulf ISO with XFCE or LXQt, it works without problems. Using su-to-root, d-i runs in GUI mode. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ After trying in many ways, we managed to get the launcher to work in the Mate version using this command: `pkexec mate-terminal -e /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher` We were left wondering why in XFCE it works with su-to-root and with Mate we have to resort to launching it using pkexec in that way? Thanks again :) PS: In this URL: http://distro.misiones.gob.ar/ultima/beta/ are the beta versions where we were doing the tests, there is a version with XFCE, another with Mate and one that includes both. The version with Mate has already corrected the command in the d-i launcher on the desktop, but you can try running from the terminal with: `su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher` or `pkexec /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher` to see the behavior. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
Quoting spiralofhope (spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com): > If memory serves, GTK3 has had a history of incredibly stupid decisions > mid-version which broke a number of things like aspects of themes. For > example, my GTK3 apps no longer have underlined hotkeys until I hold > the alt key. Quite. These are some of the reasons why I applaud the LXDE team (with their Razor-Qt partners) for making the difficult but wise decision to jump ship from GTK and migrate to Qt (for LXQt). It shows a commendable ability to rationally plan. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Your comment is a general truth but LXDE is a special case: [...] You just talked all _around_ my point, but didn't address it. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > There are always exceptions to broad generalizations. This camp has > many LXDE aficionados who might find your declaration that LXDE is > dead rather counterproductive. As a reminder, I said the _project_ is dead, not that LXDE is. That distinction's not even nuanced. It's super-wide. E.g., I rely on the procmail codebase every single day as my LDA (local delivery agent) and filtering tool. It hasn't had an upstream development team in about two decades. (Of course, it's rather more self-contained than is a DE, and far, far less in need of ongoing maintenance and development.) Anyway, to closely paraphrase the late Sen. Moynihan, they're entitled to their own opinions but not to their own facts. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 08:38:04 -0400
Dan Purgert wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2020, tom wrote:
> > [...] The biggest technical problem is the
> > lack of ASIC northbridge, or rather something to interface the CPU
> > to an PCIE bus. Currently the best thing available you can get is
> > an FPGA and it is a severe bandwidth bottleneck. It's also super
> > expensive getting an FPGA that beefy enough. I don't see RISCV
> > going anywhere until this is solved except microcontroller
> > applications.
> >
> > The second problem is patents that prevent RISCV developers from
> > implementing a lot of popular specs and standards. Just as an
> > example look at the licensing cost of implementing HDMI vs
> > DisplayPort.
>
> On the one hand, I understand why a "large market audience" device
> would need HDMI or DisplayPort or the newest whizbang 256K DNA
> ("Direct Neural Attachment") adapter is ... but why does that need to
> be on a small-market / hobby computer?
>
> I can only speak for myself, but a reasonably open PC at the $400 mark
> would certainly be competitive to dell or hp; even if it were
> "limited" in the peripheral interconnect area (assuming, of course,
> the motherboard's peripheral layout were well documented and people
> were encouraged to make stuff -- see arduino or rpi expansion boards )
>
generally you want to be able to attach a video card or high
performance disk controller to a PCIE slot. you /can/ do these things
with an FPGA but I wouldn't call it very reliable. You do too many
things or send too much data over the bus it exceeds the bandwidth and
the system locks up needing a reset.
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Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 15:23:18 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > > > Have you read the beowulf release notes? > > I'm a bit behind, sorry. > > > LXDE is available and quite functional with a few caveats. > > I'm sure it is. My comment is nonetheless a general truth. > LXDE is effectively a several-years-dead project. Your comment is a general truth but LXDE is a special case: * It's subjectively a little more reliable and a lot easier to configure and use than LXQt. * LXDE is a very nice "gentle intro" into Openbox and LXQt. * In the future, when LXDE either becomes unavailable or has security problems, transition to LXQt is as easy as http://troubleshooters.com/linux/quickhacks.htm#startxlxqt The general truth is it's best to stop using deprecated software as soon as there's a half decent alternative (which LXQt is). The exception is that in this case, conversion at any time is so easy, it's best to use the mature deprecated software until there's a real reason to get rid of it. SteveT Steve Litt March 2020 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:03:53 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > LXDE > is one of many projects who looked at the dismaying near-total rewrite > required for migrating to GTK3 (and GTK's increasing GNOME-centric > nature) and made the agonising decision to bail and migrated sideways > to Qt. If memory serves, GTK3 has had a history of incredibly stupid decisions mid-version which broke a number of things like aspects of themes. For example, my GTK3 apps no longer have underlined hotkeys until I hold the alt key. I just re-confirmed with spacefm (gtk2) versus spacefm-gtk3. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On 2020-03-16 17:23, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): Have you read the beowulf release notes? I'm a bit behind, sorry. LXDE is available and quite functional with a few caveats. I'm sure it is. My comment is nonetheless a general truth. LXDE is effectively a several-years-dead project. There are always exceptions to broad generalizations. This camp has many LXDE aficionados who might find your declaration that LXDE is dead rather counterproductive. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > Have you read the beowulf release notes? I'm a bit behind, sorry. > LXDE is available and quite functional with a few caveats. I'm sure it is. My comment is nonetheless a general truth. LXDE is effectively a several-years-dead project. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On 2020-03-16 14:03, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting al3xu5 / dotcommon (dotcom...@autistici.org): I think LXDE could be a good compromise for me, because it has openbox but it is faster to configure and more "close" in use for those who come from a different "ready-made" DM... Be aware that LXDE is EOLed and pretty much has no future because of being based on GTK2. The successor project, based on the Qt graphics library instead -- where all the developer energy went -- is LXQt. GTK2 has been, as to development, dead as a doornail since 2011. LXDE is one of many projects who looked at the dismaying near-total rewrite required for migrating to GTK3 (and GTK's increasing GNOME-centric nature) and made the agonising decision to bail and migrated sideways to Qt. Have you read the beowulf release notes? LXDE is available and quite functional with a few caveats. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
Quoting al3xu5 / dotcommon (dotcom...@autistici.org): > I think LXDE could be a good compromise for me, because it has openbox but it > is faster to configure and more "close" in use for those who come from a > different "ready-made" DM... Be aware that LXDE is EOLed and pretty much has no future because of being based on GTK2. The successor project, based on the Qt graphics library instead -- where all the developer energy went -- is LXQt. GTK2 has been, as to development, dead as a doornail since 2011. LXDE is one of many projects who looked at the dismaying near-total rewrite required for migrating to GTK3 (and GTK's increasing GNOME-centric nature) and made the agonising decision to bail and migrated sideways to Qt. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:56:36 +0100 al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Someone asked why wanting to change MATE, the reason is the concern > of being sooner or later "forced" to do so in case MATE evolves too > much in directions that do not seem "appropriate" to me (systemd > oriented deps, freedesktop / gnome3 "external" deps, wayland etc.) ... > > I have read the release notes for MATE 1.24 [1] and the roadmap [2] > and some things seemed worrying to me: > - they say "If your system doesn't, uh, support systemd [...]" uh ??? > why uh ??? [snip] > > The ideal for me would certainly be a pure openbox WM. The preceding is what I use, although I add in dmenu and xbattmon. > But at the > moment it would take me too long to arrive at a satisfactory > configuration such as usability and pleasantness, in addition to the > effort to change many of my habits ... > > I think LXDE could be a good compromise for me, because it has > openbox but it is faster to configure and more "close" in use for > those who come from a different "ready-made" DM... Not only that, but you can develop hotkeys and workflow on LXDE, and carry them over to Openbox later. You can incorporate dmenu with hotkey on LXDE, learn to use it, and then when it's time transfer that knowledge and ability to Openbox. > > For now I am continuing to use MATE ... Soon I will do the upgrade > ASCII -> Beowulf and then decide what to do... > > In the meantime, it would be useful for me to understand better if my > concerns about MATE are sensible or are just some form of paranoia Given the behavior of Linux-related software in the last 4 years, if it's paranoia, it's justified paranoia. I don't know anything about mate, but I can tell you I've seen a disturbing slide of my former favorite, Xfce, to the dark side. If it's paranoia, I share your paranoia. Add in the fact that, regardless of other WM/DE's Freedesktop.Org trifles and trinkets, Openbox plus dmenu plus xbattmon plus UMENU2 and optionally plus fbpanel is an insanely productive environment for anyone who is a competent (35wpm) touch-typist. SteveT Steve Litt March 2020 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
25/02/2020 16:29:58 +0100 al3xu5 / dotcommon : > So what you suggest should be the first choice to bet on? First of all I would like to thank you all for the many interesting and useful answers. As I mentioned, my desire is to have a highly usable, easily configurable, stable over time UI. The problem is that I don't have much time available to implement a highly customized solution: for this reason I have been using MATE since its early releases (to avoid gnome3) and I can't decide to change. Someone asked why wanting to change MATE, the reason is the concern of being sooner or later "forced" to do so in case MATE evolves too much in directions that do not seem "appropriate" to me (systemd oriented deps, freedesktop / gnome3 "external" deps, wayland etc.) ... I have read the release notes for MATE 1.24 [1] and the roadmap [2] and some things seemed worrying to me: - they say "If your system doesn't, uh, support systemd [...]" uh ??? why uh ??? - they are going to: "Add support for AccountsService" "Complete support for systemd-logind" "Add support for Wayland" However, keeping in mind the advices I received from all you, I did some quick tests using a VM. The ideal for me would certainly be a pure openbox WM. But at the moment it would take me too long to arrive at a satisfactory configuration such as usability and pleasantness, in addition to the effort to change many of my habits ... I think LXDE could be a good compromise for me, because it has openbox but it is faster to configure and more "close" in use for those who come from a different "ready-made" DM... For now I am continuing to use MATE ... Soon I will do the upgrade ASCII -> Beowulf and then decide what to do... In the meantime, it would be useful for me to understand better if my concerns about MATE are sensible or are just some form of paranoia ... I thank those who want to give me an opinion on this. Regards [1] https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2020-02-10-mate-1-24-released/ [2] https://wiki.mate-desktop.org/#!pages/roadmap.md pgp4DNpDXUkMf.pgp Description: Firma digitale OpenPGP ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux
On Mar 15, 2020, tom wrote:
> [...] The biggest technical problem is the
> lack of ASIC northbridge, or rather something to interface the CPU to
> an PCIE bus. Currently the best thing available you can get is an FPGA
> and it is a severe bandwidth bottleneck. It's also super expensive
> getting an FPGA that beefy enough. I don't see RISCV going anywhere
> until this is solved except microcontroller applications.
>
> The second problem is patents that prevent RISCV developers from
> implementing a lot of popular specs and standards. Just as an example
> look at the licensing cost of implementing HDMI vs DisplayPort.
On the one hand, I understand why a "large market audience" device would
need HDMI or DisplayPort or the newest whizbang 256K DNA ("Direct Neural
Attachment") adapter is ... but why does that need to be on a
small-market / hobby computer?
I can only speak for myself, but a reasonably open PC at the $400 mark
would certainly be competitive to dell or hp; even if it were "limited"
in the peripheral interconnect area (assuming, of course, the
motherboard's peripheral layout were well documented and people were
encouraged to make stuff -- see arduino or rpi expansion boards )
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Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux
On Mar 14, 2020, Mark Rousell wrote: > I am not opposing your central message in any way, but... > > On 13/03/2020 02:59, Steve Litt wrote: > > involves programming, and most people can't > > do that. > > > > Oh really? 12 lines of code and they can't do it (or have a friend help > > do it)? > > Really. There is no way on earth that the average computer user could > even come close to writing a program or script and this applies to most > of their friends too. I've never thought of myself as much more than "average" (especially considering what some of you lot come up with). But then again, maybe my view of "average" is skewed significantly by the fact that I try to follow what the "above average" are doing. > [...] > It strikes me that back when I first got into computers (the early 80s), > there was a sense of optimism that the rapid growth of widely affordable > technology would result in a new golden era of technical literacy. Oh > dear, how naive. Or perhaps it has happened, just not in the way it was imagined. I mean, I see young kids getting on with their mom's $x00 iMoron device without anyone thinking anything of it. I remember thinking it was a super great privilege to be able to hold the TV remote without people freaking out ... And a pox on all those same parents who are looking down on me for giving my kids an etch-a-sketch and dead trees. (Aside, I can't wait til the older is able to understand basic logic so I can pull out the various 74HCxx logic chips and some buttons and go to town). > > Instead, the techies, geeks and entrepreneurs made technology *easier*. > [...] > Thus, the average user (even the average Linux user, I suspect) is not > going to be scripting stuff any time soon (other than maybe by typing in > stuff they Googled). I don't entirely disagree, but I think the problem is somewhat more nuanced. Before google (or the web in general), what would you have done if you ran into trouble? Probably followed some set of instructions from a friend or colleague (or if you were "on the Internet" at the time, maybe Usenet or a mailing list, I guess). My point is, people have to start somewhere ... -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] xbattmon
Hi Steve, Steve Litt wrote: > A few weeks ago we discussed simple, works-on-all-wmde components like > fbpanel. Another one that I like is xbattmon. It's a no-frills battery > monitor that presents as a very thin horizontal "gauge" across the > bottom of the screen, whether or not you have a panel. Colors and > stripe width are configurable. I configured mine to be about 3 or 4 > pixels, be green when the computer is plugged into the wall. When not > plugged in, it's blue on the left and red on the right: The > intersection of the two is how much of the battery is used up. > > Unfortunately, I think my color scheme would fail for a color blind > person, and xbattmon is one of those tiny programs configured by > changing constants in the config.h file and recompiling, so it's > certainly not for everybody. But I think golinux could make a nice set > of defaults that would work for most people, and I could supply a > document to download, change colors, and recompile. May I also mention BatteryMonitor (batmon.app) from GNUstep? [*] It is more oriented to GNUstep and windowmaker, because it uses the nice App-Icon. So I don't think it blends well with certain WM's (like xfce, for example) However, it supports a wide range of kernels, operating systems, batteries, power schemes... Just because I am the author. Riccardo [*] http://gap.nongnu.org/batmon/index.html ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update
Hi, I am using Devuan on an HP laptop with intel 64bit cpu. Everything worked very well, I did a lot of compilation and it is very stable, never had a freeze in months! [ 0.10] smpboot: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz (family: 0x6, model: 0xf, stepping: 0x6) [ 0.10] Performance Events: PEBS fmt0-, Core2 events, Intel PMU driver. [ 0.10] core: PEBS disabled due to CPU errata Yesterday I installed a kernel upgrade, bad things happened 1) after the first reboot with the new kernel, I get up to my desktop, check out sources ad start building Arctic Fox browser, come back after a time and find the machine completely frozen - no disk activity, no mouse possible, no errors. No response to power button pressed (had to press 5 seconds) 2) at reboot, machine freezes quite early in the boot process 3) I retry and it still freezes I tried selecting in GRUB the older kernel and it boots. It goes past the last error, starts file system check/journal replay and the machine seems stable again. This is the last good kernel version: 4.9.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.189-3+deb9u2 (2019-11-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux the unstable version must be the version 4.9.210-1 installed What could the issue be? I read about backports of spectre mitigations being possible issues. Riccardo ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
