Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 4:51 PM tempforever wrote: > So, my previous test did confirm that Devuan Chimaera without D-Bus is > still possible using the steps on dev1fanboy's documentation page. > Note, I don't really have anything against dbus (yet), I'm just checking > whether this is all still possible for documentation purposes. > Also note, it may be *possible* to install some of these software > packages that "depend" on dbus, without actually installing dbus... not > sure what functionality would be lost though. As far as adding new > recommendations to this list, I have none. Maybe someone else who > actually uses a dbus-free Devuan can chime in. > > The following list is from the "D-Bus free software" link at > > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/dbus-free-software.html > > Window managers: > fluxbox: OK > blackbox: OK > openbox: tries to install dbus > fvwm: OK > fvwm-crystal: tries to install dbus > icewm: OK > metacity: tries to install dbus > evilwm: OK > windowmaker: Unable to locate package windowmaker > mutter: tries to install dbus > sawfish: OK > icewm: OK > dwm: OK > i3: tries to install dbus > wmaker: OK > > File Managers: > xfe: tries to install dbus > pcmanfm: tries to install dbus > rox-filer: tries to install dbus > mc: OK > gentoo: tries to install dbus > fdclone: OK > s3dfm: OK > tkdesk: OK > ytree: OK > vifm: OK > > Display managers: > nodm: OK > ldm: OK > xdm: OK > wdm: OK > LXQT: > > Web browsers: > midori: tries to install dbus > surf: tries to install dbus > dillo: OK > links2: OK > links: OK > elinks: OK > lynx: OK > edbrowse: OK > w3m: OK > Firefox-ESR: > > Music players: > deadbeef: Package has no installation candidate > cmus: OK > cdcd: OK > lxmusic: tries to install dbus > randomplay: OK > > Media players: > totem: tries to install dbus > xine-ui: OK > mplayer2: Package has no installation candidate > mpv: OK > melt: tries to install dbus > > IRC clients: > weechat: OK > irssi: OK > ekg2-ui-gtk: Unable to locate package > scrollz: OK > loqui: OK > > > Hopefully not inappropriate asking (wry grin face!) - - - - Regards ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
So, my previous test did confirm that Devuan Chimaera without D-Bus is still possible using the steps on dev1fanboy's documentation page. Note, I don't really have anything against dbus (yet), I'm just checking whether this is all still possible for documentation purposes. Also note, it may be *possible* to install some of these software packages that "depend" on dbus, without actually installing dbus... not sure what functionality would be lost though. As far as adding new recommendations to this list, I have none. Maybe someone else who actually uses a dbus-free Devuan can chime in. The following list is from the "D-Bus free software" link at https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/dbus-free-software.html Window managers: fluxbox: OK blackbox: OK openbox: tries to install dbus fvwm: OK fvwm-crystal: tries to install dbus icewm: OK metacity: tries to install dbus evilwm: OK windowmaker: Unable to locate package windowmaker mutter: tries to install dbus sawfish: OK icewm: OK dwm: OK i3: tries to install dbus wmaker: OK File Managers: xfe: tries to install dbus pcmanfm: tries to install dbus rox-filer: tries to install dbus mc: OK gentoo: tries to install dbus fdclone: OK s3dfm: OK tkdesk: OK ytree: OK vifm: OK Display managers: nodm: OK ldm: OK xdm: OK wdm: OK Web browsers: midori: tries to install dbus surf: tries to install dbus dillo: OK links2: OK links: OK elinks: OK lynx: OK edbrowse: OK w3m: OK Music players: deadbeef: Package has no installation candidate cmus: OK cdcd: OK lxmusic: tries to install dbus randomplay: OK Media players: totem: tries to install dbus xine-ui: OK mplayer2: Package has no installation candidate mpv: OK melt: tries to install dbus IRC clients: weechat: OK irssi: OK ekg2-ui-gtk: Unable to locate package scrollz: OK loqui: OK goli...@devuan.org wrote: > And how is any of this conversation helping Devuan sort out > documentation for the Chimaera release? > > The revised list needing assessment is: > > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ > > General information (will need to be updated to Chimaera at the least) > Devuan without D-Bus (is this still possible?) > D-Bus free software (quite possibly out of date) > Minimal xorg install > Minimal XFCE install > > Thanks, > golinux > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Git learning -- Was: devuan gitea broken?
the freely taken choices aren't that much nowadays unless you Have I said "freely taken"? (o: Choices are made anyway, and it's important to own them. I'll come back to you as soon as I start again to mess with the android code base. Thanks for your time and effort. Looking forward to it! Bernard (Beer) Rosset https://rosset.net/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Git learning -- Was: devuan gitea broken?
On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:53:48 +0200 Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > Yes, but I don't have the time to learn the git-fu at the moment. > > I usually prefer to say "I don't *take* the time", because there is > plenty of time; it's just a series of choices (some of them not being > freely taken) on what to allocate it for that matters. > > Said otherwise, you'll never take the time to learn something until you > decide to allocate time for it. > > Hit me up privately if you want a (quick?) session about the basics of > Git, so you'd be able to see changes, write them and pull from/push to > repositories (ie any other Git repository you got access to out there - > decentralised!). > I'm readily available/motivated to share such important knowledge, and > the basics could be covered in, say, 30 minutes hands-on. > > Of course, if/when you'll start pulling on the thread of specifics to > discover/learn, the required time will grow exponentially :o) > > Bernard (Beer) Rosset > https://rosset.net/ Hi, the freely taken choices aren't that much nowadays unless you win the lottery jackpot. But I'll come back to you as soon as I start again to mess with the android code base. Thanks for your time and effort. Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Git learning -- Was: devuan gitea broken?
Yes, but I don't have the time to learn the git-fu at the moment. I usually prefer to say "I don't *take* the time", because there is plenty of time; it's just a series of choices (some of them not being freely taken) on what to allocate it for that matters. Said otherwise, you'll never take the time to learn something until you decide to allocate time for it. Hit me up privately if you want a (quick?) session about the basics of Git, so you'd be able to see changes, write them and pull from/push to repositories (ie any other Git repository you got access to out there - decentralised!). I'm readily available/motivated to share such important knowledge, and the basics could be covered in, say, 30 minutes hands-on. Of course, if/when you'll start pulling on the thread of specifics to discover/learn, the required time will grow exponentially :o) Bernard (Beer) Rosset https://rosset.net/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
