Re: [DNG] moving to a new system
> On 25 Jun 2022, at 00:06, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > Hoping that I'm not asking too many questions. > > (moving from debian testing to devuan testing (daedalus) > the old system is under 5.17.xx and the new one is on 5.18 > if that makes for differences) > > (I've learnt the hard way that just winging things means a LOT more > work and even a greater chance for issues.) > > My existing system has been a work in progress for over 10 years. So > I've gotten things > set up quite the way that I like them so things change slowly but in > that there are also > less 'terror' moments when everything has gone 'goofy'. > > Is there any way to move over things like settings (and all the other > pamphernania) for browsers and libreoffice and the like? > > I was thinking of doing things by using scp from the old system to the new > one. > > Dunno if that would create issues or not. > > Any better ideas - - - - well I'm all ears!!! If your new drive is the same size, you could just transfer the entire system with clonezilla. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] moving to a new system
On 6/24/22 10:56, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 10:19 AM Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: Anno domini 2022 Fri, 24 Jun 09:05:39 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng scripsit: Greetings Hoping that I'm not asking too many questions. (moving from debian testing to devuan testing (daedalus) the old system is under 5.17.xx and the new one is on 5.18 if that makes for differences) (I've learnt the hard way that just winging things means a LOT more work and even a greater chance for issues.) My existing system has been a work in progress for over 10 years. So I've gotten things set up quite the way that I like them so things change slowly but in that there are also less 'terror' moments when everything has gone 'goofy'. Is there any way to move over things like settings (and all the other pamphernania) for browsers and libreoffice and the like? I was thinking of doing things by using scp from the old system to the new one. Dunno if that would create issues or not. Any better ideas - - - - well I'm all ears!!! Move your home directory to the new system ... and use rsync, not scp. That seems simple - - - - except I've never used rsync yet. Suggestions for a good recipe to follow- - - please? from the new system (this will overwrite /home files if you have them): rsync -avxKSH root@oldsystem:/home/ /home/ means make a backup, show what you do, don't change filesystems, keep dirlinks, use sparse files, and keep hard links, from root@oldsystem:/home/ to your local /home/ Just don't do this for the root filesystem, unless it is to put it somewhere else This will use ssh for authentication, either use a key for authenticating, (man ssh-keygen) or change the user to what it needs to be. man rsync explains the options in detail. You can interrupt this command and run it again, it will continue where it left. TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Hector Gonzalez ca...@genac.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] moving to a new system
On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 10:19 AM Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: > > Anno domini 2022 Fri, 24 Jun 09:05:39 -0500 > o1bigtenor via Dng scripsit: > > Greetings > > > > Hoping that I'm not asking too many questions. > > > > (moving from debian testing to devuan testing (daedalus) > > the old system is under 5.17.xx and the new one is on 5.18 > > if that makes for differences) > > > > (I've learnt the hard way that just winging things means a LOT more > > work and even a greater chance for issues.) > > > > My existing system has been a work in progress for over 10 years. So > > I've gotten things > > set up quite the way that I like them so things change slowly but in > > that there are also > > less 'terror' moments when everything has gone 'goofy'. > > > > Is there any way to move over things like settings (and all the other > > pamphernania) for browsers and libreoffice and the like? > > > > I was thinking of doing things by using scp from the old system to the new > > one. > > > > Dunno if that would create issues or not. > > > > Any better ideas - - - - well I'm all ears!!! > > Move your home directory to the new system ... and use rsync, not scp. > That seems simple - - - - except I've never used rsync yet. Suggestions for a good recipe to follow- - - please? TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] moving to a new system
Anno domini 2022 Fri, 24 Jun 09:05:39 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng scripsit: > Greetings > > Hoping that I'm not asking too many questions. > > (moving from debian testing to devuan testing (daedalus) > the old system is under 5.17.xx and the new one is on 5.18 > if that makes for differences) > > (I've learnt the hard way that just winging things means a LOT more > work and even a greater chance for issues.) > > My existing system has been a work in progress for over 10 years. So > I've gotten things > set up quite the way that I like them so things change slowly but in > that there are also > less 'terror' moments when everything has gone 'goofy'. > > Is there any way to move over things like settings (and all the other > pamphernania) for browsers and libreoffice and the like? > > I was thinking of doing things by using scp from the old system to the new > one. > > Dunno if that would create issues or not. > > Any better ideas - - - - well I'm all ears!!! Move your home directory to the new system ... and use rsync, not scp. Nik > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] moving to a new system
Greetings Hoping that I'm not asking too many questions. (moving from debian testing to devuan testing (daedalus) the old system is under 5.17.xx and the new one is on 5.18 if that makes for differences) (I've learnt the hard way that just winging things means a LOT more work and even a greater chance for issues.) My existing system has been a work in progress for over 10 years. So I've gotten things set up quite the way that I like them so things change slowly but in that there are also less 'terror' moments when everything has gone 'goofy'. Is there any way to move over things like settings (and all the other pamphernania) for browsers and libreoffice and the like? I was thinking of doing things by using scp from the old system to the new one. Dunno if that would create issues or not. Any better ideas - - - - well I'm all ears!!! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP question
Hi, I've been using this packages for a while without any issues: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34499#p34499 They are maintaining a rebuild of sury php sources without systemd dependency. apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 1CC02413BFF88108 ### PHP Rebuilds for Devuan Chimaera deb https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan chimaera main deb-src https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan chimaera main Miki Missatge de Curtis Maurand via Dng del dia dj., 23 de juny 2022 a les 17:49: > Hello, > > I've been running Devuan on my break even public facing webhosting > system for several years. I've been using ISPConfig and the debian > perfect server instructions with adjustments for Devuan. I'm up to > Devuan Beowulf at the moment and trying to go to chimaera so that I can > get PHP 7.4 support. I'm happy to build a new server and migrate sites > from Beowulf to Chimaera except that PHP 7.4 goes end of life at the end > of November of this year. The current versions PHP are 8.0 and 8.1. > > Using the instructions at packages.sury.org, I am able to add the other > versions of PHP except for PHPN.n-fpm due to a (what seems to be a > completely unnecessary) dependence upon systemd. > > I would love to keep running Devuan. It runs way better than anything > systemd based. Is there a workaround for this limitation? I've tried > installing the package from chimaera, but it's a couple of minor > revisions behind sury.org. It also seems to need a version of libc6 > greater than or equal to x.xx. > > As a web hoster I need to be able to deploy multiple versions of PHP and > I don't see very advanced support for it in Devuan. Developers need to > test PHP 8 as it's different enough to cause trouble for apps written > intending to run on version 7.4 > > > Trying not to install ubuntu, > > --Curtis > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for
Antony Stone wrote: > PS: Just in case you wonder "hm, sdv is awfully close to sdz - what happens > next?", the answer is simply that the standard Linux kernel then moves on to > device names /dev/sdaa, /dev/sdab, etc... > > I'm not sure where the current limit of device names is, but I don't think > you'll be able to reach it with any hardware means of connecting drives (you > might manage it at a push with iSCSI devies etc). Ooh, a few multi-port cards and then some port expanders. Backblaze are up to 60 drives in a box ! https://www.backblaze.com/blog/open-source-data-storage-server/ Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] new system + graphics
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 21:28:02 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Managed to get the new system running - - - yee haw!!! > Now trying to get everything set up - - - lots of software to install > - - - working on things. > > How do I get the open source drivers for my RX570 gpu installed AND > working? Install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu > lsmod says that I have amdgpu running - - Installed firmware? lspci to see if it recognise your video/gpu/sound? - > multiple instances. How many cards do you have? > I can't figure out how to change my monitor > settings from some 1080 x 768 to the actual resolution of 3840x2160. > This graphics stuff has always seemed to be linux's achilles heel!! Try xrandr It shoulk list the monitors and allow you to enable any extras, then set the resolution and orientation ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP question
Thank you all for your help. Sorry for the delay in response. I had a hardware issue to deal with, yesterday. All is well. I've been reading all of the suggestions that were sent. I will keep you posted with what I come up with. --Curtis On 6/23/22 14:57, Rod Rodolico via Dng wrote: sury breaks devuan since the maintainer decided to use systemd specific libraries to create a temp file. instead, use tdrnetworks, which is basically sury, but gets rid of that dependency. See https://kb.unixservertech.com/unix/linux/debian/devuan_sury for complete information. I'm running Devuan with ISPConfig3 also. Rod On 6/23/22 10:49, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: Hello, I've been running Devuan on my break even public facing webhosting system for several years. I've been using ISPConfig and the debian perfect server instructions with adjustments for Devuan. I'm up to Devuan Beowulf at the moment and trying to go to chimaera so that I can get PHP 7.4 support. I'm happy to build a new server and migrate sites from Beowulf to Chimaera except that PHP 7.4 goes end of life at the end of November of this year. The current versions PHP are 8.0 and 8.1. Using the instructions at packages.sury.org, I am able to add the other versions of PHP except for PHPN.n-fpm due to a (what seems to be a completely unnecessary) dependence upon systemd. I would love to keep running Devuan. It runs way better than anything systemd based. Is there a workaround for this limitation? I've tried installing the package from chimaera, but it's a couple of minor revisions behind sury.org. It also seems to need a version of libc6 greater than or equal to x.xx. As a web hoster I need to be able to deploy multiple versions of PHP and I don't see very advanced support for it in Devuan. Developers need to test PHP 8 as it's different enough to cause trouble for apps written intending to run on version 7.4 Trying not to install ubuntu, --Curtis ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
