Re: [DNG] New Sakura document
On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 11:10:52 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 06/02/2018 à 00:17, Steve Litt a écrit : > > Oh Oh. Here's what my Chromium browser says the last paragraph of > > the document says: [snip my description] > > > > On what browser did you observe the lack of the tilde? > > My remark was about "secura.conf" instead of "sakura.conf" Ah-Ha! Fixed (be sure to refresh cache) [snip stuff about shift+ctrl+t] > >> Sakura rewriting its config file on exit is > >> definitely a bad feature. > > I'd rather have two files: One for config, the other for persistent > > state. I'd prefer the former not be overwritten, and the latter > > overwritten and headed by a comment not to edit it directly. > > This could be done by wrapping the invocation into a script. Yet > it's not satisfactory. Actually I don't see the need for recording > the state of a terminal emulator (which state, btw?). I assume you mean a script to preserve and restore the original .conf. Yeah, that could be done, but I just have the feeling it would have corner case problems. The states I'm discussing are which colorset and font size. I can sort of see the use of saving this state, but like you, I don't see it as especially essential, and given the problems it causes with config file rewrite, yeah, I agree with you. > > In general I like applications (and desktop session) to start > from fresh instead of restoring the dirt accumulated in the previous > invocations. In some cases, restoring the state can lead you to > restarting always in a broken state you cannot go out of. There are some situations I like saving state. One is the situation where file-pickers default to the last directory from which you picked last time. That can save a lot of time. But that's not what we're talking about here. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt January 2018 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New Sakura document
Le 06/02/2018 à 00:17, Steve Litt a écrit : Oh Oh. Here's what my Chromium browser says the last paragraph of the document says: === Sakura is much more featureful than discussed in this document, and its features are easy to use. Perform command sakura --help for more details, peruse the ~/.config/sakura/secura.conf file for even more, and for the utmost info on this program's behavior, look at its source code. === My intent was to precede the leading slash with a tilde. I must have done something that renders wrong on some browsers. I tested with my handy dandy XML checker and the doc is well formed XML, which*usually* means it will play right with most browsers, but... On what browser did you observe the lack of the tilde? My remark was about "secura.conf" instead of "sakura.conf" What the difference between hitting T and hitting ? Ctrl+Shift+t adds a tab on top. Hitting the tab key queries the files in the directory and asks you to select (this is a function of bash/dash, not the terminal emulator). Stupid me! Sakura rewriting its config file on exit is definitely a bad feature. I'd rather have two files: One for config, the other for persistent state. I'd prefer the former not be overwritten, and the latter overwritten and headed by a comment not to edit it directly. This could be done by wrapping the invocation into a script. Yet it's not satisfactory. Actually I don't see the need for recording the state of a terminal emulator (which state, btw?). In general I like applications (and desktop session) to start from fresh instead of restoring the dirt accumulated in the previous invocations. In some cases, restoring the state can lead you to restarting always in a broken state you cannot go out of. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New Sakura document
On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 09:33:07 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 05/02/2018 à 02:46, Steve Litt a écrit : > > I just finished a document on how to configure/use Sakura. > > > > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/sakura.htm > > > > SteveT > Hey Steve. > > Just read your nice little Sakura tutorial. > > In the last paragraph you write "/.config/sakura/secura.conf" . > I bet there's a typo here (-: Oh Oh. Here's what my Chromium browser says the last paragraph of the document says: === Sakura is much more featureful than discussed in this document, and its features are easy to use. Perform command sakura --help for more details, peruse the ~/.config/sakura/secura.conf file for even more, and for the utmost info on this program's behavior, look at its source code. === My intent was to precede the leading slash with a tilde. I must have done something that renders wrong on some browsers. I tested with my handy dandy XML checker and the doc is well formed XML, which *usually* means it will play right with most browsers, but... On what browser did you observe the lack of the tilde? > > What the difference between hitting T and hitting > ? Ctrl+Shift+t adds a tab on top. Hitting the tab key queries the files in the directory and asks you to select (this is a function of bash/dash, not the terminal emulator). > > Sakura rewriting its config file on exit is > definitely a bad feature. I'd rather have two files: One for config, the other for persistent state. I'd prefer the former not be overwritten, and the latter overwritten and headed by a comment not to edit it directly. SteeT Steve Litt January 2018 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New Sakura document
Le 05/02/2018 à 02:46, Steve Litt a écrit : Hi all, A few weeks ago, somebody on this list mentioned Sakura as an excellent terminal emulator not beholden to any desktop environment. They were right. I just finished a document on how to configure/use Sakura. http://troubleshooters.com/linux/sakura.htm SteveT Steve Litt January 2018 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb Hey Steve. Just read your nice little Sakura tutorial. In the last paragraph you write "/.config/sakura/secura.conf" . I bet there's a typo here (-: What the difference between hitting T and hitting ? Sakura rewriting its config file on exit is definitely a bad feature. Even if it is easy to work-around. Didier Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] New Sakura document
Hi all, A few weeks ago, somebody on this list mentioned Sakura as an excellent terminal emulator not beholden to any desktop environment. They were right. I just finished a document on how to configure/use Sakura. http://troubleshooters.com/linux/sakura.htm SteveT Steve Litt January 2018 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
