Re: [DNG] Please, inform users about the current 'health' of Devuan.

2019-04-20 Thread Jaromil

Many thanks Aitor and Ed for your concern and understanding. Rest
reassured that Devuan keeps its integrity, we will grow healthy from
all difficulties, learning to avoid them in the future. I believe the
devuan conference talk that Katolaz left us so far contains very good
hints on the reasons why Devuan cannot be easily compromised, by
design, or should I say, by its minimalist design. the provisional
video is here and we are still working to fix the audio (right now
only right channel works) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43DkuBxvJuc

ciao

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Re: [DNG] Please, inform users about the current 'health' of Devuan.

2019-04-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting aitor_czr (aitor_...@gnuinos.org):

> Which book (originally written in english and in plain language,
> discarding Charles Dickens and so on) should i carry to a deserted
> island in order to improve my english?

So, so, many choices.

> Roald Dahl springs to mind... Any among you has read Roald Dahl's
> "Tales of the Unexpected"?

Dahl is a surprisingly good choice.  He was an ethnic Norwegian
(possibly explaining his deadpan sense of humour) from Cardiff, Wales,
by the way.[1]  Perhaps you have a weakness, as I do, for
English-language writers with foreign-language backgrounds, in which
case Vladimir Nabokov and (especially) Joseph Conrad might also be your
cup of tea and could not be bettered as a model for English prose.  Try
Conrad's _Lord Jim_.  Although written in 1899-1900, its language still
seems very fresh and modern, to my (admittedly pedantic) ear.

Getting back to works by native (and contemporary) speakers of English,
try non-fiction author John McPhee, e.g., a collection of three long essays
collected in a single volume as _The Control of Nature_.  The individual 
pieces can still be read online at https://www.newyorker.com/ , for
free, and the quiet effectiveness of McPhee's descriptive writing style
will knock your socks off.  
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/the-control-of-nature

(Listadmins, please pardon this brief digression into Devuan Book Club. 
I won't do it often.)


[1] My Tante Bjorg warned me to never trust those Norwegians, though.

-- 
Cheers,
Rick Moen  "vi is my shepherd; I shall not font."
r...@linuxmafia.com   -- Psalm 0.1 beta
McQ!  (4x80)
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Re: [DNG] Please, inform users about the current 'health' of Devuan.

2019-04-19 Thread aitor_czr

On 19/4/19 12:41, Antony Stone wrote:

"replacement for" IMHO.


Antony.
Which book (originally written in english and in plain language, 
discarding Charles Dickens and so on) should i carry to a deserted 
island in order to improve my english?
Roald Dahl springs to mind... Any among you has read Roald Dahl's "Tales 
of the Unexpected"?


Cheers :)

Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] Please, inform users about the current 'health' of Devuan.

2019-04-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 19 April 2019 at 12:34:46, aitor_czr wrote:

> On 19/4/19 12:20, aitor_czr wrote:
> > as well as a replacement to sysvinit [*]
> 
> Runit, s6, OpenRC or whatever you want :)
> 
> Aitor.
> 
> [*] replacement of..., better said?

"replacement for" IMHO.


Antony.

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Re: [DNG] Please, inform users about the current 'health' of Devuan.

2019-04-19 Thread aitor_czr

On 19/4/19 12:20, aitor_czr wrote:

as well as a replacement to sysvinit [*]


Runit, s6, OpenRC or whatever you want :)

Aitor.

[*] replacement of..., better said?



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Re: [DNG] Please, inform users about the current 'health' of Devuan.

2019-04-19 Thread aitor_czr

Hi,

On 19/4/19 11:03, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:

Following the last crises in the Administration of Devuan, as a user
of Devuan who appreciates init freedom, I am worried. Is the crises
over or not? What about the void created by katolaZ?


I still hope to see KatolaZ around. He really has created a void in the 
project. I offer myself to cooperate.



The fact that there are business entities who want init freedom is
something of a blessing.

I congratulate Jaromil for having the charisma of recognizing
decisional errors: that is a quality of good leaders.
One of the favorite quotes of Richard Stallman is: "We are humans, and 
we make mistakes".
And yes..., we must learn from our mistakes and  we must forgive the 
mistakes of others in the same way that we also need to forgive ourselves.
With regard to the init freedom, Jaromil did such question to all the 
caretakers in the First Devuan Conference. I wanted to add my opinion, 
but the
question was only directed towards the caretakers. So, i'll give here my 
opinion: any risky decision (as well as a replacement to sysvinit) 
should be
taken in a devuan derivative and not in the devuan operanting system per 
se,which is a base to build upon.


Cheers,

Aitor.


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[DNG] Please, inform users about the current 'health' of Devuan.

2019-04-19 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Following the last crises in the Administration of Devuan, as a user
of Devuan who appreciates init freedom, I am worried. Is the crises
over or not? What about the void created by katolaZ?

The fact that there are business entities who want init freedom is
something of a blessing.

I congratulate Jaromil for having the charisma of recognizing
decisional errors: that is a quality of good leaders.
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