Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-12 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 08:53:57AM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> I would remove all languages that I do not need. Certainly, you do not
> know 45 languages! I suggest you to download the Debian sources (or
> Devuanised source packages) if available, open the debian/control
> file, and remove all those futile dependencies for all languages that
> I don't use.

In this particular case, translations come in separate packages so you're
free to install just languages you want.  In the general case, though, if
you insist on micromanaging, there's "localepurge" which might save you a
whole 100MB!  Although I don't know where you can find a machine capable of
running Thunderbird at an usable speed where 100MB can make a difference.


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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-12 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 07:41:09AM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Am 2017-11-11 23:00, schrieb KatolaZ:
> >You must use either packages.devuan.org, or auto.mirror.devuan.org, or
> >pkgmaster.devuan.org.
> 
> auto.mirror.devuan.org makes no difference, still version 45 language packs.
> Please look at the package archive before you blame me! :-(
> 


You are right. auto.mirror.devuan.org does not have version 52, and
this is probably due to a mis-merge of jessie-security. We will have a
look into that.

The quick solution is to use pkgmaster.devuan.org then, which uses the
new amprolla3.

HND

KatolaZ

P.S.: there is no reason to be angry. I had looked at the package
archive and found version 52 because I had also pkgmaster.devuan.org
configured there. My mistake. The community is here to help, not to be
yelled at :)

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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-12 Thread Edward Bartolo
Quoting J. Fahrner: "Why do you think I have 45 languages installed?
You do not need to install thunderbird-l10n-all, there is a single
package for every language. For example thunderbird-l10n-de."

If that is the case, then, there is no need of hacks.

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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-12 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2017-11-12 08:53, schrieb Edward Bartolo:

I would remove all languages that I do not need. Certainly, you do not
know 45 languages!


Why do you think I have 45 languages installed? You do not need to 
install thunderbird-l10n-all, there is a single package for every 
language. For example thunderbird-l10n-de.

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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread Edward Bartolo
I would remove all languages that I do not need. Certainly, you do not
know 45 languages! I suggest you to download the Debian sources (or
Devuanised source packages) if available, open the debian/control
file, and remove all those futile dependencies for all languages that
I don't use.

Yes, I use downright simple solutions, but as long as those simple
hacks continue to work, there doesn't seem there is any need to apply
more complicated solutions.

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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2017-11-11 23:00, schrieb KatolaZ:

You must use either packages.devuan.org, or auto.mirror.devuan.org, or
pkgmaster.devuan.org.


auto.mirror.devuan.org makes no difference, still version 45 language 
packs.

Please look at the package archive before you blame me! :-(

Jochen

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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2017-11-11 23:00, schrieb KatolaZ:

You must use either packages.devuan.org, or auto.mirror.devuan.org, or
pkgmaster.devuan.org.

amprolla.devuan.org is not being used for *ages*


I used de.mirror.devuan.org, that links to amprolla. If this is no 
longer a valid mirror, you should communicate such changes.


Jochen

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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 09:18:48PM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote:
> This is from 
> http://amprolla.devuan.org/merged/dists/jessie-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages
> 

You must use either packages.devuan.org, or auto.mirror.devuan.org, or
pkgmaster.devuan.org.

amprolla.devuan.org is not being used for *ages* (like, since before
Devuan Jessie beta went out, IIRC).  It's not listed anywhere. The
Jessie release announcement clearly indicates to use only
auto.mirror.devuan.org, and the latest amprolla rewrite is available
at pkgmaster.devuan.org (plus a series of other mirrors that we are
going to list on www.devuan.org).

Please update your sources.list

HND

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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner
This is from 
http://amprolla.devuan.org/merged/dists/jessie-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages


Package: thunderbird
Version: 1:52.4.0-1~deb8u1
Installed-Size: 109039
Maintainer: Carsten Schoenert 
Architecture: amd64
Replaces: icedove (<< 1:45.6.0-2.1~)
Provides: icedove, mail-reader
Depends: debianutils (>= 1.16), fontconfig, psmisc, x11-utils, 
libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.17), libcairo2 (>= 1.10.2-2~), 
libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.78), libevent-2.0-5 (>= 
2.0.10-stable), libffi6 (>= 3.0.4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.11), 
libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 
2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.8), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), 
libhunspell-1.3-0 (>= 1.3.3), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), 
libpangocairo-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libpangoft2-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), 
libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.19.6), libstartup-notification0 (>= 0.8), libstdc++6 
(>= 4.9), libx11-6, libx11-xcb1, libxcb-shm0, libxcb1, libxcomposite1 
(>= 1:0.3-1), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxrender1, 
libxt6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.4)

Suggests: apparmor, fonts-lyx, libgssapi-krb5-2
Breaks: enigmail (<< 2:1.9.8.1-1~), hunspell-ar (<< 0.0.0+20080110-1.1), 
hunspell-da (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-de-at (<< 20071211-2), 
hunspell-de-ch (<< 20071211-2), hunspell-de-de (<< 20071211-2), 
hunspell-de-med (<< 20090825-1), hunspell-en-ca (<< 1:3.1.0-3), 
hunspell-en-us (<< 20070829-3), hunspell-fr (<< 1:3.1.0-3), 
hunspell-gl-es (<< 2.2a-6), hunspell-hu (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-ko (<< 
0.3.3-1), hunspell-ne (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-se (<< 
1.0~beta6.20081222-1.1), hunspell-sh (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-sr (<< 
1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-uz (<< 0.6-3.1), hunspell-vi (<< 1:3.1.0-3), 
icedove (<< 1:45.6.0-2.1~), lightning (<< 1:52.4.0-1~deb8u1), myspell-af 
(<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-ca (<< 0.6-8), myspell-cs-cz (<< 20040229-4.1), 
myspell-da (<< 1.6.18-1.1), myspell-de-at (<< 20071211-2), myspell-de-ch 
(<< 20071211-2), myspell-de-de (<< 20071211-2), myspell-de-de-oldspell 
(<< 1:2-25.1), myspell-el-gr (<< 0.3-1.1), myspell-en-au (<< 2.1-5), 
myspell-en-gb (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-en-us (<< 1:3.1.0-3), 
myspell-en-za (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-eo (<< 2.1.2000.02.25-41), 
myspell-es (<< 1.10-7), myspell-et (<< 1:20030606-12.1), myspell-fa (<< 
0.20070816-2), myspell-fi (<< 0.7-17.2), myspell-fo (<< 0.2.36-3), 
myspell-fr (<< 1.4-25), myspell-fr-gut (<< 1:1.0-26.1), myspell-ga (<< 
2.0-19), myspell-gd (<< 0.50-7), myspell-gv (<< 0.50-8), myspell-hr (<< 
20060617-2), myspell-hu (<< 0.99.4-1.2), myspell-hy (<< 0.10.1-1.1), 
myspell-it (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-ku (<< 0.20.0-1.1), myspell-lv (<< 
0.7.3-3.1), myspell-nb (<< 2.0.10-3.1), myspell-ne (<< 1.0-4.1), 
myspell-nl (<< 1:1.10-3), myspell-nn (<< 2.0.10-3.1), myspell-pl (<< 
20090830-1), myspell-pt-br (<< 2009.03.30-1.1), myspell-pt-pt (<< 
20090309-1.1), myspell-ru (<< 0.99g5-8.1), myspell-sk (<< 0.5.5a-2.1), 
myspell-sv-se (<< 1.3.8-6-2.2), myspell-sw (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-th 
(<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-tl (<< 0.4-0-5), xul-ext-compactheader (<< 
2.1.0~), xul-ext-foxyproxy-standard (<< 4.5.6-debian-2~)
Description: mail/news client with RSS, chat and integrated spam filter 
support

Homepage: http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/
Description-md5: 0834e84e4477b5b83149edf61e105571
Recommends: lightning (= 1:52.4.0-1~deb8u1), myspell-en-us | 
hunspell-dictionary | myspell-dictionary

Xul-Appid: {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}
Section: mail
Priority: optional
Filename: 
pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/t/thunderbird/thunderbird_52.4.0-1~deb8u1_amd64.deb

Size: 41368220
MD5sum: 16ca0448ceeeb49ebedfbd3155cf16bc
SHA1: 1708452ba2418e5d9ec9377221aa90edd983ac77
SHA256: fc1a4f3a04ac446cb764ffeb551de1f8af4da8ecdf9d044a4219dfa57842e58c

And this is from 
http://amprolla.devuan.org/merged/dists/jessie-security/main/binary-all/Packages


Package: thunderbird-l10n-de
Source: icedove
Version: 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
Installed-Size: 791
Maintainer: Christoph Goehre 
Architecture: all
Replaces: icedove-l10n-de (<< 1:45.6.0-2.1~)
Provides: icedove-l10n-de
Depends: thunderbird (<< 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1.1~), thunderbird (>= 
1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1)

Breaks: icedove-l10n-de (<< 1:45.6.0-2.1~)
Description: German language package for Thunderbird
Homepage: https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Teams:de
Description-md5: b84355301b3680934c743f3984cf95d0
Recommends: hunspell-de-de | hunspell-de-at | hunspell-de-ch | 
myspell-de-de | myspell-de-at | myspell-de-ch

Section: localization
Priority: optional
Filename: 
pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/i/icedove/thunderbird-l10n-de_45.8.0-3~deb8u1_all.deb

Size: 485112
MD5sum: 0c0311261b6a3062587db9d8dc5384df
SHA1: 00e32ea6f431d615141ae7e102ee002581d4415c
SHA256: 8e5bc813d54950d64b798943c14f38598a0927503e8ad1a0e583416e565f6841

Thunderbird Version 52, Language pack version 45!

Please can someone correct that?
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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2017-11-11 11:15, schrieb KatolaZ:


Just to clarify and to avoid further future confusion, the webpage at
packages.debian.org that you pointed us to clearly shows "[security]"
close to the package name, which means that the package is available
as a security update.

This means that, in order to have it in jessie, you must include the
jessie-security repo in your sources.list.


Sure I have!

deb http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main contrib 
non-free

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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 10:02:28AM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Hi,
> the Devuan repository is missing the latest Thunderbird language packs.
> Debian has version 52:
> https://packages.debian.org/jessie/thunderbird-l10n-de
> but Devuan still has version 45.
> 

Just to clarify and to avoid further future confusion, the webpage at
packages.debian.org that you pointed us to clearly shows "[security]"
close to the package name, which means that the package is available
as a security update.

This means that, in order to have it in jessie, you must include the
jessie-security repo in your sources.list. 

HTH

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 10:02:28AM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Hi,
> the Devuan repository is missing the latest Thunderbird language packs.
> Debian has version 52:
> https://packages.debian.org/jessie/thunderbird-l10n-de
> but Devuan still has version 45.
> 

Again, if you are talking of ascii, the packages are already there:

apt-cache policy thunderbird-l10n-de
thunderbird-l10n-de:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 1:52.4.0-1~deb9u1
Version table:
1:52.4.0-1~deb9u1 500
500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main i386 Packages
1:52.3.0-4~deb9u1 500
500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii/main i386 Packages


If you are talking of jessie, the packages for version 52 are
available in jessie-security:

apt-cache policy thunderbird-l10n-de
thunderbird-l10n-de:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 1:52.3.0-4~deb8u2
Version table:
1:52.3.0-4~deb8u2 0
500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security/main i386 Packages
1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1 0
500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/main i386 Packages

HTH

KatolaZ

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[DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner

Hi,
the Devuan repository is missing the latest Thunderbird language packs.
Debian has version 52:
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/thunderbird-l10n-de
but Devuan still has version 45.

Jochen


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