Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

[Ozi Traveller]

Is this applicable to Devuan's approach to simply backports?

https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation


On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:29 PM, parazyd  wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:03:24AM +1100, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> > > Could we also get the later version of suckless-tools into
> jessie-backports
> > > for the later tabbed and demnu packages?
> > >
> >
> > Hi Ozi,
> >
> > I think it shouldn't bee too difficult to get an updated
> > suckless-tools package in Devuan. I will give a look at the current
> > one and see whether I can try to put together something useful :)
> >
>
> FWIW, you can backport the package from ascii :)
>
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Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

[parazyd]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, KatolaZ wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:03:24AM +1100, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> > Could we also get the later version of suckless-tools into jessie-backports
> > for the later tabbed and demnu packages?
> > 
> 
> Hi Ozi,
> 
> I think it shouldn't bee too difficult to get an updated
> suckless-tools package in Devuan. I will give a look at the current
> one and see whether I can try to put together something useful :)
> 

FWIW, you can backport the package from ascii :)

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Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

[KatolaZ]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:03:24AM +1100, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> Could we also get the later version of suckless-tools into jessie-backports
> for the later tabbed and demnu packages?
> 

Hi Ozi,

I think it shouldn't bee too difficult to get an updated
suckless-tools package in Devuan. I will give a look at the current
one and see whether I can try to put together something useful :)

HND

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Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

[Ozi Traveller]

Could we also get the later version of suckless-tools into jessie-backports
for the later tabbed and demnu packages?

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:11 AM,  wrote:

> On 2017-03-13 09:55, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 09:44:16AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote:
>>> >On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in
>>> >>their names.
>>> >>
>>> >>surf
>>> >>netsurf
>>> >>
>>> >>Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting?
>>> >>
>>> >>Hi Hendrik,
>>> >>
>>> >>you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is
>>> >>0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from
>>> >>jessie-backports.
>>> >
>>> >Just noticed
>>> > surf --version
>>> >doesn't work.
>>> >
>>> >But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6.
>>> >
>>> >Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7.
>>> >
>>> >With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything
>>> >automatically
>>> >get upgraded to the backports version if I do
>>> > aptitude update
>>> > aptitude upgrade
>>> >? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able
>>> >to have some
>>> >control over which packages I get from backports.
>>> >
>>> >Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports
>>> >updates for
>>> >everything?
>>> >
>>> >-- hendrik
>>> >
>>> >>HND
>>> >>
>>> >>KatolaZ
>>> >>
>>> >>--
>>> >>[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
>>> >>[ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
>>> >>[ @) http://kalos.mine.nu [1] --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
>>> >>[ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia [2] -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
>>> >>[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
>>> >
>>> > Hendrik,
>>> > When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated.
>>> > You have to explicitly install the package you want.
>>> >
>>> >sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package"
>>> >
>>> > So don't be afraid to add
>>> > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian [4] jessie-backports main
>>> > into your sources.list
>>> >
>>> > and have a look at
>>> > https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ [5]
>>> > to set your mind at rest.
>>> >
>>> > DaveT
>>> >
>>>
>>> Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet?   If not
>>> you'll have to do the pinning manually.
>>>
>>> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=479
>>>
>>> golinux
>>>
>>
>> I just pinned it manually.  So it looks as if the issue has not been
>> fixed yet.
>> Or, at least, not for a system that was installed from alpha-2 and
>> continually
>> upgraded since.
>>
>> It is a configuration file, and they sometimes don't upgrade without
>> manual
>> intervention.
>>
>> -- hendrik
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Also  . . . don't use debian backports repos in your sources list.  Use
> the devuan backports:
>
> deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/  jessie-backports  main contrib
> non-free
>
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Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

[golinux]

On 2017-03-13 09:55, Hendrik Boom wrote:

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 09:44:16AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:

On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote:
>On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>>On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
>>
>>On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>
>>I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in
>>their names.
>>
>>surf
>>netsurf
>>
>>Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting?
>>
>>Hi Hendrik,
>>
>>you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is
>>0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from
>>jessie-backports.
>
>Just noticed
> surf --version
>doesn't work.
>
>But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6.
>
>Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7.
>
>With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything
>automatically
>get upgraded to the backports version if I do
> aptitude update
> aptitude upgrade
>? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able
>to have some
>control over which packages I get from backports.
>
>Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports
>updates for
>everything?
>
>-- hendrik
>
>>HND
>>
>>KatolaZ
>>
>>--
>>[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
>>[ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
>>[ @) http://kalos.mine.nu [1] --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
>>[ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia [2] -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
>>[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
>
> Hendrik,
> When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated.
> You have to explicitly install the package you want.
>
>sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package"
>
> So don't be afraid to add
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian [4] jessie-backports main
> into your sources.list
>
> and have a look at
> https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ [5]
> to set your mind at rest.
>
> DaveT
>

Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet?   If 
not

you'll have to do the pinning manually.

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=479

golinux


I just pinned it manually.  So it looks as if the issue has not been 
fixed yet.
Or, at least, not for a system that was installed from alpha-2 and 
continually

upgraded since.

It is a configuration file, and they sometimes don't upgrade without 
manual

intervention.

-- hendrik





Also  . . . don't use debian backports repos in your sources list.  Use 
the devuan backports:


deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/  jessie-backports  main contrib 
non-free


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Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

[Hendrik Boom]

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 09:44:16AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote:
> >On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> >>
> >>On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>
> >>I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in
> >>their names.
> >>
> >>surf
> >>netsurf
> >>
> >>Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting?
> >>
> >>Hi Hendrik,
> >>
> >>you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is
> >>0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from
> >>jessie-backports.
> >
> >Just noticed
> > surf --version
> >doesn't work.
> >
> >But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6.
> >
> >Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7.
> >
> >With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything
> >automatically
> >get upgraded to the backports version if I do
> > aptitude update
> > aptitude upgrade
> >? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able
> >to have some
> >control over which packages I get from backports.
> >
> >Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports
> >updates for
> >everything?
> >
> >-- hendrik
> >
> >>HND
> >>
> >>KatolaZ
> >>
> >>--
> >>[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
> >>[ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
> >>[ @) http://kalos.mine.nu [1] --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
> >>[ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia [2] -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
> >>[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
> >
> > Hendrik,
> > When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated.
> > You have to explicitly install the package you want.
> >
> >sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package"
> >
> > So don't be afraid to add
> > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian [4] jessie-backports main
> > into your sources.list
> >
> > and have a look at
> > https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ [5]
> > to set your mind at rest.
> >
> > DaveT
> >
> 
> Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet?   If not
> you'll have to do the pinning manually.
> 
> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=479
> 
> golinux

I just pinned it manually.  So it looks as if the issue has not been fixed yet.
Or, at least, not for a system that was installed from alpha-2 and continually 
upgraded since.

It is a configuration file, and they sometimes don't upgrade without manual 
intervention.

-- hendrik
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

[golinux]

On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote:

On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote:


On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote:

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:

I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in
their names.

surf
netsurf

Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting?

Hi Hendrik,

you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is
0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from
jessie-backports.


Just noticed
 surf --version
doesn't work.

But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6.

Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7.

With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything
automatically
get upgraded to the backports version if I do
 aptitude update
 aptitude upgrade
? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able
to have some
control over which packages I get from backports.

Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports
updates for
everything?

-- hendrik


HND

KatolaZ

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[ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
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[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]


 Hendrik,
 When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated.
 You have to explicitly install the package you want.

sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package"

 So don't be afraid to add
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian [4] jessie-backports main
 into your sources.list

 and have a look at
 https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ [5]
 to set your mind at rest.

 DaveT



Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet?   If 
not you'll have to do the pinning manually.


https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=479

golinux





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Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

[Dave Turner]

On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote:

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote:

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:

I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in
their names.

surf
netsurf

Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting?


Hi Hendrik,

you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is
0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from
jessie-backports.

Just noticed
surf --version
doesn't work.

But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6.

Looking at backports.  Now have surf 0.7.

With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything automatically
get upgraded to the backports version if I do
aptitude update
aptitude upgrade
?  I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this.  I'd like to be able to have 
some
control over which packages I get from backports.

Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports updates 
for
everything?
  
-- hendrik



HND

KatolaZ

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Hendrik,
When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated.
You have to explicitly install the package you want.

|sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package"|


So don't be afraid to add
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main
into your sources.list

and have a look at
https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
to set your mind at rest.

DaveT



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[DNG] getting surf from backports

[Hendrik Boom]

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in 
> > their names.
> > 
> > surf
> > netsurf
> > 
> > Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting?
> > 
> 
> Hi Hendrik,
> 
> you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is
> 0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from
> jessie-backports.

Just noticed
surf --version
doesn't work.

But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6.

Looking at backports.  Now have surf 0.7.

With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything automatically
get upgraded to the backports version if I do
aptitude update
aptitude upgrade
?  I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this.  I'd like to be able to have 
some 
control over which packages I get from backports.

Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports updates 
for 
everything?
 
-- hendrik

> 
> HND
> 
> KatolaZ
> 
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> [ "+.  katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it  ]
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> [ @@)  http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia --  GPG: 0B5F062F  ] 
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