Re: [DNG] warning: Devuan jessie i386 doesn't boot on i586

2018-02-14 Thread Jaromil


On 14 February 2018 23:06:34 CET, Andreas Messer  wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:27:32PM +0100, Alexander Bochmann wrote:
>> ...on Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:09:17PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote:
>> 
>>  > Alexander Bochmann wrote on 14.02.2018 21:56:
>>  > > System resets before even loading Devuan-built grub. 
>>  > Now that is particularly odd, as grub is not among the packages 
>>  > that were forked by Devuan but rather is merged from Debian. 
>> 
>> Agh, odd indeed. Just my bad luck again? It is old hardware 
>> after all...
>
>As far as i understand, GCC 6 in Devuan and Debian uses
>by default march=i686. This default setting is used when building
>all the packages for the i386 arch.

oh, this is so sad :-(

I wish we can fix this one day...

ciao
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Re: [DNG] warning: Devuan jessie i386 doesn't boot on i586

2018-02-14 Thread Andreas Messer
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:27:32PM +0100, Alexander Bochmann wrote:
> ...on Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:09:17PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote:
> 
>  > Alexander Bochmann wrote on 14.02.2018 21:56:
>  > > System resets before even loading Devuan-built grub. 
>  > Now that is particularly odd, as grub is not among the packages 
>  > that were forked by Devuan but rather is merged from Debian. 
> 
> Agh, odd indeed. Just my bad luck again? It is old hardware 
> after all...

As far as i understand, GCC 6 in Devuan and Debian uses
by default march=i686. This default setting is used when building
all the packages for the i386 arch.

So your C3 is probably too old. You could rebuild gcc package
using another default value for march in a e.g. VM. and then 
install this package and rebuild all packages you need on your 
C3 machine based on that ;-) But thats quite some work to do.

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Re: [DNG] warning: Devuan jessie i386 doesn't boot on i586

2018-02-14 Thread Alexander Bochmann
...on Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:27:32PM +0100, Alexander Bochmann wrote:

 > Ok, currently reinstalling Debian, and then I'll try again 

WTF - installing from the latest Debian live CD (8.10.5-20180118), 
the same thing happens... How did this ever work?

Sorry for the false alarm.

Alex.

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Re: [DNG] warning: Devuan jessie i386 doesn't boot on i586

2018-02-14 Thread Alexander Bochmann
...on Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:09:17PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote:

 > Alexander Bochmann wrote on 14.02.2018 21:56:
 > > System resets before even loading Devuan-built grub. 
 > Now that is particularly odd, as grub is not among the packages 
 > that were forked by Devuan but rather is merged from Debian. 

Agh, odd indeed. Just my bad luck again? It is old hardware 
after all...

Ok, currently reinstalling Debian, and then I'll try again (and if 
it fails a second time, I'll try the Devuan installer directly).

Alex.

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Re: [DNG] warning: Devuan jessie i386 doesn't boot on i586

2018-02-14 Thread Irrwahn
Alexander Bochmann wrote on 14.02.2018 21:56:
> Ran into this when trying to move an old box with a Via C3 CPU 
> from Debian jessie (last release to support i586) to Devuan jessie: 
> System resets before even loading Devuan-built grub. 
[...]

Now that is particularly odd, as grub is not among the packages 
that were forked by Devuan but rather is merged from Debian. 

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[DNG] warning: Devuan jessie i386 doesn't boot on i586

2018-02-14 Thread Alexander Bochmann
Ran into this when trying to move an old box with a Via C3 CPU 
from Debian jessie (last release to support i586) to Devuan jessie: 
System resets before even loading Devuan-built grub. 

Don't think there's any use putting work into fixing that, just 
mentioning it here before anyone else tries ;)

Alex.

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