Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
Luke, I removed the edit because it was completely out of place. It was a list of links and you added a huge line of text to a single entry. without-systemd.org is not directly linked to Devuan, so dont hold it against the project. - Gravis On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jaromil wrote: > > TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve > their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good > candidate for Devuan's future too. > > > > with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as > possible for the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's &co to coordinate on > tasks and infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work > and perhaps reach more target builds. > > > > meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! > > i added some further explanatory text here: > http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > with the intention of researching further links and adding a bit > more, but someone who goes by the name "Gravis" immediately reverted > what i had done with absolutely zero explanation whatsoever. i > therefore feel disinclined to make any further contribution to editing > pages where my time is completely and utterly wasted. > > l. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
I saw that this morning... So what is a ForkWikiBot? Who is running it and for what purpose? On 02/18/2015 06:54 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jaromil wrote: TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for Devuan's future too. with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's &co to coordinate on tasks and infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps reach more target builds. meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! i added some further explanatory text here: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page with the intention of researching further links and adding a bit more, but someone who goes by the name "Gravis" immediately reverted what i had done with absolutely zero explanation whatsoever. i therefore feel disinclined to make any further contribution to editing pages where my time is completely and utterly wasted. l. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 02:17:23 +0100 > From: Jaromil > To: Go Linux , dng@lists.dyne.org, Luke Kenneth > Casson Leighton > Subject: Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed > libsystemd0 > Message-ID: <8264f8fb-a38e-4b9c-9627-f131d7fe8...@dyne.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their > technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for > Devuan's future too. > > with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for > the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's &co to coordinate on tasks and > infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps > reach more target builds. > > meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! > Jaromil, Thank you and all the others for friendly words of support. Cooperation is of course possible and desirable. When the time comes for Devuan to offer packages of the same functionality that is already provided by Adam Borowski, we will gladly try TRIOS version with devuan packages. @64/32 bit The reason why we offer only 64-bit TRIOS is zfs .. on 32-bit linux kernel, zfs is unstable: http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html Best regards, Dragan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 11:54 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jaromil wrote: > > TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve > > their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good > > candidate for Devuan's future too. > > > > with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible > > for the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's &co to coordinate on tasks and > > infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps > > reach more target builds. > > > > meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! > > i added some further explanatory text here: > http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > with the intention of researching further links and adding a bit > more, but someone who goes by the name "Gravis" immediately reverted > what i had done with absolutely zero explanation whatsoever. i > therefore feel disinclined to make any further contribution to editing > pages where my time is completely and utterly wasted. Luke, maybe you should join #debianfork IRC and as him there? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jaromil wrote: > TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their > technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for > Devuan's future too. > > with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for > the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's &co to coordinate on tasks and > infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps > reach more target builds. > > meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! i added some further explanatory text here: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page with the intention of researching further links and adding a bit more, but someone who goes by the name "Gravis" immediately reverted what i had done with absolutely zero explanation whatsoever. i therefore feel disinclined to make any further contribution to editing pages where my time is completely and utterly wasted. l. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
On 02/17/15 20:17, Jaromil wrote: TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for Devuan's future too. with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's &co to coordinate on tasks and infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps reach more target builds. meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! ciao I've been using it on this box my main home/office computer. I am writing this on it. I switch back and forth between it and my own mix and match Debian sid sans systemd, when I screw that up (currently hosed printing) Trios is my trustworthy fall back. That speaks well for it as I make a good portion of my living using this Linux box. Yes I know I should be using stable, but it is not an option due to hardware requirements and backports has systemd and hell I'm not really a stable type anyway. (-; I'm also running the Devuan Valentine alpha on my old laptop as it is 32bit, but I really have not had much chance to play with it yet. I imagine there will be a lot of back and forth sharing as time goes on that is the nature of the free and open world. Debian Jessie is being forked but really it is a whole lot more going forward for all the "No systemd" distros, look at all the bright spots, look at the advancements made already. As systemd based Linux systems gradually implode into their own navels, there will be replacements and choices all under the GNU/Linux Tent, no doom and gloom here. (-: Clarke ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for Devuan's future too. with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's &co to coordinate on tasks and infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps reach more target builds. meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! ciao On February 17, 2015 7:00:39 PM GMT+01:00, Go Linux wrote: >On Tue, 2/17/15, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0 > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 11:49 AM > >> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836 > >> !! did anyone have a clue that this has already been done? i >> didn't!! :) why is this stuff so hard to find?? > > > >It's not at all hard to find. This post was started last October: > >http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118319 > >Ad the Trios link was posted on THIS list by DragonFOSS many months >ago. ;) > >And also here: > >http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Go Linux wrote: > On Tue, 2/17/15, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0 > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 11:49 AM > >> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836 > >> !! did anyone have a clue that this has already been done? i >> didn't!! :) why is this stuff so hard to find?? > > > > It's not at all hard to find. i'm... i'm going to use the excuse that i'm going cross-eyed (no, really: too much computer use...). > This post was started last October: > > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118319 missed it > Ad the Trios link was posted on THIS list by DragonFOSS many months ago. ;) missed that too > And also here: > > http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page how did i miss that? oh... yeah, i can see how: it's a huge unclassified list. i tried going through a few of them but gave up after reviewing the first... ten or so. i'll create an account and add a bit about it. l. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
>Author: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton >Date: 2015-02-17 18:49 +100 >To: dng >Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0 >http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836 > >!! did anyone have a clue that this has already been done? i >didn't!! :) why is this stuff so hard to find?? :) https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150215.211902.3366365f.en.html TRIOS is currently the best jessie based linux distro without systemd on planet..period. Live iso: http://mirror.org.rs/image/TRIOS-Mia-RC1-Build_2015-01-08.iso Cheers ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
PS: their ISO is 64 bit only which eliminates my currently accesible equipment. RH On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Richard wrote: > Actually Dragan posted the link on 8-Jan-2015 in this list. > > They are well along in removing systemd. > The image was an easy install on my desktop at home. > But I've been away with only 2 AA1 netbooks and an S2. > > Problem is most of their devs only speak Serbian. > Their development is somewhat, more open, but lang is an impediment; > although any post in English is answered intelligently. > > Main site: https://foss.rs/ > and forums: https://foss.rs/#trios-gnu-linux-distribution.192 > and there is a News section and one English section in the forum. > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Go Linux wrote: > >> On Tue, 2/17/15, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> >> Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0 >> To: dng@lists.dyne.org >> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 11:49 AM >> >> > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836 >> >> > !! did anyone have a clue that this has already been done? i >> > didn't!! :) why is this stuff so hard to find?? >> >> >> >> It's not at all hard to find. This post was started last October: >> >> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118319 >> >> Ad the Trios link was posted on THIS list by DragonFOSS many months ago. >> ;) >> >> And also here: >> >> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page >> >> >> ___ >> Dng mailing list >> Dng@lists.dyne.org >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> > > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
Actually Dragan posted the link on 8-Jan-2015 in this list. They are well along in removing systemd. The image was an easy install on my desktop at home. But I've been away with only 2 AA1 netbooks and an S2. Problem is most of their devs only speak Serbian. Their development is somewhat, more open, but lang is an impediment; although any post in English is answered intelligently. Main site: https://foss.rs/ and forums: https://foss.rs/#trios-gnu-linux-distribution.192 and there is a News section and one English section in the forum. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Go Linux wrote: > On Tue, 2/17/15, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0 > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 11:49 AM > > > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836 > > > !! did anyone have a clue that this has already been done? i > > didn't!! :) why is this stuff so hard to find?? > > > > It's not at all hard to find. This post was started last October: > > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118319 > > Ad the Trios link was posted on THIS list by DragonFOSS many months ago. > ;) > > And also here: > > http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
On Tue, 2/17/15, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0 To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 11:49 AM > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836 > !! did anyone have a clue that this has already been done? i > didn't!! :) why is this stuff so hard to find?? It's not at all hard to find. This post was started last October: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118319 Ad the Trios link was posted on THIS list by DragonFOSS many months ago. ;) And also here: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836 !! did anyone have a clue that this has already been done? i didn't!! :) why is this stuff so hard to find?? l. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
