Re: [DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-10-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
All

I know this was a bit longer than a week, but we wanted to receive some
confirmations from folks with questions on implementations.  We've received
that, and the chairs feel the consensus is to move forward.


Thanks
tim


On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 2:27 PM Tim Wicinski  wrote:

> (forgive my missing subject previously)
>
>
> All
>
> After pulling this back (Thanks Peter again), we went back to the authors
> and
>
> In the case of the DF bit, the wording is changed from
> "UDP responders are RECOMMENDED"  to "UDP responders MAY"
>
> They also added some additional text in the security section.
>
> The authors relabeled the suggestions using "R1" -> "R12", which
> actually was better than my idea.
>
> The diffs can be found here:
>
>
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14=draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-15=--html
>
>
> This will be a one week working group followup last call.
> We want to make sure the implementers etc are happy with these changes.
>
> This Working Group Last Call will end on September 20, 2023
>
> thanks
>
> tim
>
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Re: [DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-10-02 Thread Petr Špaček

On 29. 09. 23 9:15, Peter van Dijk wrote:

On Tue, 2023-09-19 at 14:27 -0400, Tim Wicinski wrote:

In the case of the DF bit, the wording is changed from
"UDP responders are RECOMMENDED"  to "UDP responders MAY"




With this change, the document appears to in fact document Best Current
Practice. The added note in the Security Considerations about DF makes
sense to me - we will have to see if anybody is willing to do the DF
experiment for real, of course.


I agree.
--
Petr Špaček
Internet Systems Consortium

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Re: [DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-10-02 Thread Vladimír Čunát
I see nothing wrong with the current version (-15), and as I posted 
before, I consider it a nice reference for DNS fragmentation.


(I'm a bit late, but at least for the record.)

--Vladimir
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Re: [DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-09-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Tue, 2023-09-19 at 14:27 -0400, Tim Wicinski wrote:
> In the case of the DF bit, the wording is changed from
> "UDP responders are RECOMMENDED"  to "UDP responders MAY"



With this change, the document appears to in fact document Best Current
Practice. The added note in the Security Considerations about DF makes
sense to me - we will have to see if anybody is willing to do the DF
experiment for real, of course.

Kind regards,
-- 
Peter van Dijk
PowerDNS.com B.V. - https://www.powerdns.com/

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[DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-09-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
(forgive my missing subject previously)


All

After pulling this back (Thanks Peter again), we went back to the authors
and

In the case of the DF bit, the wording is changed from
"UDP responders are RECOMMENDED"  to "UDP responders MAY"

They also added some additional text in the security section.

The authors relabeled the suggestions using "R1" -> "R12", which
actually was better than my idea.

The diffs can be found here:

https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14=draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-15=--html


This will be a one week working group followup last call.
We want to make sure the implementers etc are happy with these changes.

This Working Group Last Call will end on September 20, 2023

thanks

tim
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