Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: Change the status of GOST Signature Algorithms in DNSSEC in the IETF stream to Historic

2023-11-29 Thread tjw ietf
I agree new code points should gave new RFCs. 

I am ok with OBSOLETE or DEPRECATED

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On Nov 29, 2023, at 17:18, Paul Wouters  wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Warren Kumari wrote:

> So, the IANA has a question:
> IANA Question --> What about the registrations that currently reference 
> RFC5933?
> Should the registrations currently referencing RFC5933 be marked "OBSOLETE," 
> "DEPRECATED," changed in
> some other way, or left alone?

> If IANA is asked to make changes to these registrations, IANA will add a link 
> to the status change
> document to the registrations."

> Seeing as GOST R34.10-2001 and GOST R 34.11-94. GOST 34.10-2001 and GOST 
> 34.11-94 were deprecated by
> the Orders of the Federal Agency for Technical Regulation and Metrology of 
> Russia (Rosstandart) in
> August 2012, and RFC5933 is being made historic (replaced by 
> draft-makarenko-gost2012-dnssec which
> describes how to use the GOST 2012 algs), I think that "OBSOLETE, see  RFC number>" is best, but I
> wanted the WG's input…

I don't think a pointer to the new RFC should be used, because we are not
re-assigning the code points. Let new code points point to the new RFC.

So just "DEPRECATED" I think ?

Paul

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Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: Change the status of GOST Signature Algorithms in DNSSEC in the IETF stream to Historic

2023-11-29 Thread Paul Wouters

On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Warren Kumari wrote:


So, the IANA has a question:
IANA Question --> What about the registrations that currently reference RFC5933?

Should the registrations currently referencing RFC5933 be marked "OBSOLETE," 
"DEPRECATED," changed in
some other way, or left alone?



If IANA is asked to make changes to these registrations, IANA will add a link 
to the status change
document to the registrations."



Seeing as GOST R34.10-2001 and GOST R 34.11-94. GOST 34.10-2001 and GOST 
34.11-94 were deprecated by
the Orders of the Federal Agency for Technical Regulation and Metrology of 
Russia (Rosstandart) in
August 2012, and RFC5933 is being made historic (replaced by 
draft-makarenko-gost2012-dnssec which
describes how to use the GOST 2012 algs), I think that "OBSOLETE, see " is best, but I
wanted the WG's input…


I don't think a pointer to the new RFC should be used, because we are not
re-assigning the code points. Let new code points point to the new RFC.

So just "DEPRECATED" I think ?

Paul

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Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: Change the status of GOST Signature Algorithms in DNSSEC in the IETF stream to Historic

2023-11-29 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 6:08 PM, Paul Hoffman 
wrote:

> [[Forwarding this to DNSOP because apparently the IESG forgot to...]]
>

Thank you.



> The IESG has received a request from an individual participant to make the
> following status changes:
>
> - RFC5933 from Proposed Standard to Historic
> (Use of GOST Signature Algorithms in DNSKEY and RRSIG Resource Records for
> DNSSEC)
>
>

So, the IANA has a question:
IANA Question --> What about the registrations that currently reference
RFC5933?

Should the registrations currently referencing RFC5933 be marked
"OBSOLETE," "DEPRECATED," changed in some other way, or left alone?

If IANA is asked to make changes to these registrations, IANA will add a
link to the status change document to the registrations."
—---


Seeing as GOST R34.10-2001 and GOST R 34.11-94. GOST 34.10-2001 and GOST
34.11-94 were deprecated by the Orders of the Federal Agency for Technical
Regulation and Metrology of Russia (Rosstandart) in August 2012, and
RFC5933 is being made historic (replaced by draft-makarenko-gost2012-dnssec
which describes how to use the GOST 2012 algs), I think that "OBSOLETE, see
" is best, but I wanted the WG's input…



W
[0]: This happened because the AD (me) requests that IETF LC be started,
and then the secretariat actually kicks it off. In this case I requested it
over the weekend, and was out on Monday.


> The supporting document for this request can be found here:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-gost-dnssec-to-historic/
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> last-c...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2023-12-18. Exceptionally, comments
> may be sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
> beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
>
> The affected document can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5933/
>
> IESG discussion of this request can be tracked via https://datatracker.
> ietf.org/doc/status-change-gost-dnssec-to-historic/ballot/
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[DNSOP] Last Call: Change the status of GOST Signature Algorithms in DNSSEC in the IETF stream to Historic

2023-11-20 Thread Paul Hoffman
[[Forwarding this to DNSOP because apparently the IESG forgot to...]]


The IESG has received a request from an individual participant to make the
following status changes:

- RFC5933 from Proposed Standard to Historic
(Use of GOST Signature Algorithms in DNSKEY and RRSIG Resource Records
for DNSSEC)

The supporting document for this request can be found here:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-gost-dnssec-to-historic/

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
last-c...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2023-12-18. Exceptionally, comments may
be sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning
of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

The affected document can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5933/

IESG discussion of this request can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-gost-dnssec-to-historic/ballot/



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