Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Reviving an old thread... Eric Richardson wrote at 6 Sep 2001 09:05:53 -0700: Tony Graham wrote: Dave Pawson wrote at 5 Sep 2001 18:15:30 +0100: At 10:33 05/09/2001 +0100, Tony Graham wrote: Dave Pawson wrote at 1 Sep 2001 23:50:58 +0100: I was thinking of the library and cookbook stuff that Tony put on Mulberrytech site, I guess it was originated in SGML? How quickly we forget. See http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dsssldoc/glossary.html and other pages. Is the SGML source still there Tony? Look for yourself. I have the same access as you have. Perhaps a safer home for it may be found? Since you don't trust Mulberry's inertia, what do you propose? You could put it on sourceforge with the other DSSSL/docbook stuff. The post won't make it into the DSSSList archive [1] until later, but Mulberry Technologies is now offering the DSSSL Documentation Project stuff [2] for adoption by interested parties. Regards, Tony Graham XML Technology Center - Dublinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd Phone: +353 1 8199708 Hamilton House, East Point Business Park, Dublin 3x(70)19708 [1] http://www.biglist.com/lists/dssslist/archives/200201/maillist.html [2] http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dsssldoc/
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Dave Pawson wrote at 5 Sep 2001 18:15:30 +0100: At 10:33 05/09/2001 +0100, Tony Graham wrote: Dave Pawson wrote at 1 Sep 2001 23:50:58 +0100: I was thinking of the library and cookbook stuff that Tony put on Mulberrytech site, I guess it was originated in SGML? How quickly we forget. See http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dsssldoc/glossary.html and other pages. Is the SGML source still there Tony? Look for yourself. I have the same access as you have. Perhaps a safer home for it may be found? Since you don't trust Mulberry's inertia, what do you propose? Regards, Tony Graham XML Technology Center - Dublinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd Phone: +353 1 8199708 Hamilton House, East Point Business Park, Dublin 3x(70)19708 To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Tony Graham wrote: Dave Pawson wrote at 5 Sep 2001 18:15:30 +0100: At 10:33 05/09/2001 +0100, Tony Graham wrote: Dave Pawson wrote at 1 Sep 2001 23:50:58 +0100: I was thinking of the library and cookbook stuff that Tony put on Mulberrytech site, I guess it was originated in SGML? How quickly we forget. See http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dsssldoc/glossary.html and other pages. Is the SGML source still there Tony? Look for yourself. I have the same access as you have. Perhaps a safer home for it may be found? Since you don't trust Mulberry's inertia, what do you propose? You could put it on sourceforge with the other DSSSL/docbook stuff. Eric To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Dave Pawson wrote at 1 Sep 2001 23:50:58 +0100: I was thinking of the library and cookbook stuff that Tony put on Mulberrytech site, I guess it was originated in SGML? How quickly we forget. See http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dsssldoc/glossary.html and other pages. Regards, Tony Graham Tony Graham mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd Phone: +353 1 8199708 Hamilton House, East Point Business Park, Dublin 3x(70)19708 To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Great, thanks. http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dsssldoc/handbook/focr/focr.html should be required reading for anyone who wants to know how dbcompon.dsl works (in the DSSSL stylesheets). At 10:33 5/09/01 +0100, Tony Graham wrote: Dave Pawson wrote at 1 Sep 2001 23:50:58 +0100: I was thinking of the library and cookbook stuff that Tony put on Mulberrytech site, I guess it was originated in SGML? How quickly we forget. See http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dsssldoc/glossary.html and other pages. To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
At 10:33 05/09/2001 +0100, Tony Graham wrote: Dave Pawson wrote at 1 Sep 2001 23:50:58 +0100: I was thinking of the library and cookbook stuff that Tony put on Mulberrytech site, I guess it was originated in SGML? How quickly we forget. See http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dsssldoc/glossary.html and other pages. Is the SGML source still there Tony? Perhaps a safer home for it may be found? Regards DaveP To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Which source material? AFAIK all of the OpenJade/OpenSP sources are available from SourceForge (including, I think, the original version of Jade/SP they started from). Jade/SP were still available from James Clarke's web site the last time I looked (http://www.jclark.com) At 06:36 PM 8/31/01 +0100, Dave Pawson wrote: At 21:24 27/08/2001 -0700, M. Wroth wrote: Most of the effort that used to be going into DSSSL now seems to be directed towards XSL. This may be the wave of the future, but I personally find it unfortunate. While (Open)Jade does not implement the whole DSSSL standard, I still find it a more useful tool than any of the XML based tools (partially familiarity on my part, I admit, but also because of the difference in orientation/output forms). Is any of the source material for that site available, or could it be retrieved in case someone wants to put the effort in later on? Regards DaveP Mark B. Wroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Work on OpenJade/OpenSP is progressing, but not as fast as we'd like. The maintainers don't have enough free cycles to work much on Jade. Development has been concentrating on OpenSP. I think once the next version of OpenSP is released, attention will return to OpenJade. In the meantime, I recommend using OpenJade 1.3, which is fast and stable. I use the latest drop of OpenSP to validate my customizations of the DocBook DTD, and use OpenJade 1.3 to produce HTML output. (Admittedly, I do this so as to test the development version of OpenSP, but I've found OpenSP to be a reliable XML parser when thrown horribly broken XML.) Now if only I could get my cvs + putty installtion (on win2k) to work, I could get back to contributing to the OpenJade project... Gershon On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Yann Dirson wrote: OTOH, Jade itself does not evolve any more - I've read that James Clark has moved from DSSSL to other things - and I'm still wondering about OpenJade - the latest beta is awfully slower than the latest stable version, cannot seem to work properly with tables, and I've seen no recent activity in CVS... Anyone knows what's happenning there ? To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:24:06PM -0700, M. Wroth wrote: While (Open)Jade does not implement the whole DSSSL standard, I still find it a more useful tool than any of the XML based OTOH, Jade itself does not evolve any more - I've read that James Clark has moved from DSSSL to other things - and I'm still wondering about OpenJade - the latest beta is awfully slower than the latest stable version, cannot seem to work properly with tables, and I've seen no recent activity in CVS... Anyone knows what's happenning there ? -- Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alcove.com/ Free-Software EngineerIngénieur Logiciel-Libre Free-Software time manager Responsable du temps Informatique-Libre To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Yann Dirson wrote at 27 Aug 2001 17:46:47 +0200: There's also the now-defunct DSSSL Documentation Project at defunct ? Would you settle for moribund? I happen to know that the main person behind the DSSSL Documentation Project hasn't worked on it for years and, in fact, no longer works for Mulberry Technologies. Furthermore, I have no expectation that anyone else at Mulberry Technologies will do any work on the DSSSL Documentation Project. Regards, Tony Graham Tony Graham mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd Phone: +353 1 8199708 Hamilton House, East Point Business Park, Dublin 3x(70)19708 To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Most of the effort that used to be going into DSSSL now seems to be directed towards XSL. This may be the wave of the future, but I personally find it unfortunate. While (Open)Jade does not implement the whole DSSSL standard, I still find it a more useful tool than any of the XML based tools (partially familiarity on my part, I admit, but also because of the difference in orientation/output forms). At 05:14 PM 8/27/01 +0100, Tony Graham wrote: Yann Dirson wrote at 27 Aug 2001 17:46:47 +0200: There's also the now-defunct DSSSL Documentation Project at defunct ? Would you settle for moribund? I happen to know that the main person behind the DSSSL Documentation Project hasn't worked on it for years and, in fact, no longer works for Mulberry Technologies. Furthermore, I have no expectation that anyone else at Mulberry Technologies will do any work on the DSSSL Documentation Project. Regards, Tony Graham Tony Graham mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd Phone: +353 1 8199708 Hamilton House, East Point Business Park, Dublin 3x(70)19708 To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl Mark B. Wroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
DOCBOOK-APPS: DSSSL Tutorials
Hi, I've managed to find a couple of DSSSL tutorials, whose links should be added to the FAQ. One is by Daniel Germán at http://csgrs6k1.uwaterloo.ca/~dmg/dsssl/tutorial/tutorial.html and the other is by Paul Prescod, a copy of which is at http://wwwai.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/lehre/ws-00-01/DokVer/DSSSL/dsssl-tutorial.html (the original location, referred to by Daniel Germán, has gone). Regards, Dave To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl
