Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc
Sorry didn't realise the notes were made. It's okay I will go through the chapters then a little later. On 20 April 2011 15:31, Hal Parker wrote: > I left notes in the relevant chapters; checking... Chapter 10 is one. Can't > recall now if there was in fact another. > > Hal > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Simon wrote: > > > Thanks for the information. I am using windows so I will perhaps do a > > review > > of the Calc guide first. It would be a help if it was noted down which > > chapters may contain items that differ between Linux & Windows builds but > I > > don't mind finding them myself. > > > > On 20 April 2011 14:55, Hal Parker wrote: > > > > > Some caveats about working on rebranding: > > > 1) The preferred words document may contain proposed words that have > not > > in > > > fact been agreed upon. I haven' had a chance to check it to be sure, > but > > > I'd > > > advise proceeding with caution. The group did agree that other than a > few > > > minor wording issues, we would defer that level of copyediting change > to > > a > > > later release. > > > > > > 2) I don't recall whether Barbara or Ron (who have done most of the > > > rebranding work) have produced a document summarising what needs to be > > > done, > > > but you can probably work most of it out by looking at chapters of the > > > Writer Guide that are on the wiki or the website. NOT the Getting > Started > > > guide, which was done so early that it may not have the latest > rebranding > > > features. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation OR > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ > > > > > > If you'd like to do further reviews on the Calc Guide, and if you > happen > > to > > > use Windows, some chapters need some items checked specifically on > > Windows > > > because they may be different from Linux or they are Windows only. I > > don't > > > recall which chapters these are. > > > > > > Hal > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc
I left notes in the relevant chapters; checking... Chapter 10 is one. Can't recall now if there was in fact another. Hal On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Simon wrote: > Thanks for the information. I am using windows so I will perhaps do a > review > of the Calc guide first. It would be a help if it was noted down which > chapters may contain items that differ between Linux & Windows builds but I > don't mind finding them myself. > > On 20 April 2011 14:55, Hal Parker wrote: > > > Some caveats about working on rebranding: > > 1) The preferred words document may contain proposed words that have not > in > > fact been agreed upon. I haven' had a chance to check it to be sure, but > > I'd > > advise proceeding with caution. The group did agree that other than a few > > minor wording issues, we would defer that level of copyediting change to > a > > later release. > > > > 2) I don't recall whether Barbara or Ron (who have done most of the > > rebranding work) have produced a document summarising what needs to be > > done, > > but you can probably work most of it out by looking at chapters of the > > Writer Guide that are on the wiki or the website. NOT the Getting Started > > guide, which was done so early that it may not have the latest rebranding > > features. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation OR > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ > > > > If you'd like to do further reviews on the Calc Guide, and if you happen > to > > use Windows, some chapters need some items checked specifically on > Windows > > because they may be different from Linux or they are Windows only. I > don't > > recall which chapters these are. > > > > Hal > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc
Thanks for the information. I am using windows so I will perhaps do a review of the Calc guide first. It would be a help if it was noted down which chapters may contain items that differ between Linux & Windows builds but I don't mind finding them myself. On 20 April 2011 14:55, Hal Parker wrote: > Some caveats about working on rebranding: > 1) The preferred words document may contain proposed words that have not in > fact been agreed upon. I haven' had a chance to check it to be sure, but > I'd > advise proceeding with caution. The group did agree that other than a few > minor wording issues, we would defer that level of copyediting change to a > later release. > > 2) I don't recall whether Barbara or Ron (who have done most of the > rebranding work) have produced a document summarising what needs to be > done, > but you can probably work most of it out by looking at chapters of the > Writer Guide that are on the wiki or the website. NOT the Getting Started > guide, which was done so early that it may not have the latest rebranding > features. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation OR > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ > > If you'd like to do further reviews on the Calc Guide, and if you happen to > use Windows, some chapters need some items checked specifically on Windows > because they may be different from Linux or they are Windows only. I don't > recall which chapters these are. > > Hal > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc
Some caveats about working on rebranding: 1) The preferred words document may contain proposed words that have not in fact been agreed upon. I haven' had a chance to check it to be sure, but I'd advise proceeding with caution. The group did agree that other than a few minor wording issues, we would defer that level of copyediting change to a later release. 2) I don't recall whether Barbara or Ron (who have done most of the rebranding work) have produced a document summarising what needs to be done, but you can probably work most of it out by looking at chapters of the Writer Guide that are on the wiki or the website. NOT the Getting Started guide, which was done so early that it may not have the latest rebranding features. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation OR http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ If you'd like to do further reviews on the Calc Guide, and if you happen to use Windows, some chapters need some items checked specifically on Windows because they may be different from Linux or they are Windows only. I don't recall which chapters these are. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I'm working on Calc Guide]
Sorry about the top posting, but this thread seems to have got into that mode... Jeremy wrote an introduction to the use of the Alfresco site, but I'm not sure if the site (which hasn't had its workflow features set up again) matches what he wrote. The file is in the "Community" space under the English space, and it's titled "LObootcamp.odt" (the original title got mucked during recovery from the crash). So that gives us some descriptions of the two systems, Alfresco and ODFAuthors' plone site, keeping in mind that both websites have changed and may not match the documents. Hal On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > The URL is: > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Introducing_OOoAuthors > > especially this section: > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Introducing_OOoAuthors#Using_the_ODFAuthors_website > > --Jean > > Forwarded Message > From: Jean Weber > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I'm working on Calc Guide > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:54:04 +1000 > > Tom, there is such a document but i don't have the URL handy. I'll > look it up later today. it needs some work but was written for the > many newcomers to OOo docs. > > --Jean > > On Tuesday, April 19, 2011, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi again :) > > > > Of course it would be ideal if Jean could produce a document on how to > use the > > alternative system but i think that is one people from OOo are already > familiar > > with? It would still be good for new people to be able to compare > systems. > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Jeremy Cartwright > > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > > Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 19:52:13 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I'm working on Calc Guide > > > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:24:44 -0300 > > Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: > > > >> Hal ... I still am not confident to start working on these chapter > >> until a formal workflow develops, > >> > > >> > Haven't heard from anyone else. Is anyone doing anything on the > >> > other books? > >> > > >> > Hal > >> > > > > I agree with Rogerio. And in light of the subject matter of this link > > > http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/04/oracle-gives-up-on-ooo-after-community-forks-the-project.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss > > > > I wonder in which direction the community will go. > > > > Personally I joined LibreOffice because I felt it necessary to promote > > a competitive free and open source office suite. I thought the only way > > I could be of service was to join the Documenters. Once I realized > > that's not just writing I've tried to work into a coordinating > > position while I learn more about the craft. > > > > Since I've begun with LibreOffice, there seems to be a split between > > the n00bs who joined on with LibreOffice and the old-schoolers who > > have been up and down since StarOffice, and what is the best way to work > > toward LibreOffice documentation. > > > > I just want to see one big happy family working in a coordinated way. > > In light of the recent developments at Oracle, and the perhaps timely > > personal disaster we have experienced with our Alfresco workflow being > > reset, I wonder in which direction the community will go. > > > > Is Jean Hollis Weber willing/able to modify her accepted plone setup to > > not rely so much on OpenOffice.org workflow and getting started > > documentation? Is David Nelson going to re-emerge as the driving force > > behind Alfresco? Is there going to be some consensus reached as to what > > is the real and proper way to document LibreOffice? I wonder in which > > direction the community will go. > > > > If a leader emerges, I will follow. If one doesn't emerge... we need > > a leader. > > > > tl;dr Wat Do? > > > > -- jdc > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.do
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Would like to help with the documentation
Thanks Hal, that fixed it On 20 April 2011 14:39, Hal Parker wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Jean Weber wrote: > > > On Wednesday, April 20, 2011, Jeremy Cartwright > > wrote: > > > On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:36:58 -0700 (PDT) > > > SimonB wrote: > > > > > >> I can't find the toolbar to upload drafts so I'm assuming I don't have > > >> permissions to do so. > > >> > > >> I have downloaded the chapter template and preferred terminology > > >> document. Should I go ahead and start rebranding a local copy of > > >> "Calc Guide > Draft chapters > For rebranding > OOcalcguideappa.odt" > > >> then somehow send it to an active member of the documentation team to > > >> be able to start uploading drafts? > > >> > > >> Sorry if I'm mistaken and missed something. A bit unsure how to > proceed. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > Indeed. It would appear that you have to be a member of User Group > > > ALFRESCO_ADMINISTRATORS to add content to Alfresco. I have verified > > > this by removing myself from this group and noticing the add content > > > button is missing. As is my ability to fix the situation. Hah. > > > > > > So to someone with the appropriate privledges, if you could add > > > Simon and myself to the ALFRESCO_ADMINISTRATOR group I would be much > > > obliged. > > > > I've no doubt you are correct, but needing to be in the Admin group > > sounds wrong to me, suggesting that there's something wrong in the way > > the site is set up... Probably arising from the server problem we had > > awhile ago. > > > > I don't know whether I can do anything about it, and won't get a > > chance to try any time soon. Hope someone else can. > > > > > Jeremy and Simon, I've added you both to that group. Hope that solves > Simon's problem. > > Hal > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Would like to help with the documentation
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Jean Weber wrote: > On Wednesday, April 20, 2011, Jeremy Cartwright > wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:36:58 -0700 (PDT) > > SimonB wrote: > > > >> I can't find the toolbar to upload drafts so I'm assuming I don't have > >> permissions to do so. > >> > >> I have downloaded the chapter template and preferred terminology > >> document. Should I go ahead and start rebranding a local copy of > >> "Calc Guide > Draft chapters > For rebranding > OOcalcguideappa.odt" > >> then somehow send it to an active member of the documentation team to > >> be able to start uploading drafts? > >> > >> Sorry if I'm mistaken and missed something. A bit unsure how to proceed. > >> > >> > > > > Indeed. It would appear that you have to be a member of User Group > > ALFRESCO_ADMINISTRATORS to add content to Alfresco. I have verified > > this by removing myself from this group and noticing the add content > > button is missing. As is my ability to fix the situation. Hah. > > > > So to someone with the appropriate privledges, if you could add > > Simon and myself to the ALFRESCO_ADMINISTRATOR group I would be much > > obliged. > > I've no doubt you are correct, but needing to be in the Admin group > sounds wrong to me, suggesting that there's something wrong in the way > the site is set up... Probably arising from the server problem we had > awhile ago. > > I don't know whether I can do anything about it, and won't get a > chance to try any time soon. Hope someone else can. > > Jeremy and Simon, I've added you both to that group. Hope that solves Simon's problem. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I'm working on Calc Guide]
The URL is: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Introducing_OOoAuthors especially this section: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Introducing_OOoAuthors#Using_the_ODFAuthors_website --Jean Forwarded Message From: Jean Weber To: documentation@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I'm working on Calc Guide Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:54:04 +1000 Tom, there is such a document but i don't have the URL handy. I'll look it up later today. it needs some work but was written for the many newcomers to OOo docs. --Jean On Tuesday, April 19, 2011, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi again :) > > Of course it would be ideal if Jean could produce a document on how to use the > alternative system but i think that is one people from OOo are already > familiar > with? It would still be good for new people to be able to compare systems. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Jeremy Cartwright > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 19:52:13 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I'm working on Calc Guide > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:24:44 -0300 > Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: > >> Hal ... I still am not confident to start working on these chapter >> until a formal workflow develops, >> > >> > Haven't heard from anyone else. Is anyone doing anything on the >> > other books? >> > >> > Hal >> > > I agree with Rogerio. And in light of the subject matter of this link > http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/04/oracle-gives-up-on-ooo-after-community-forks-the-project.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss > > I wonder in which direction the community will go. > > Personally I joined LibreOffice because I felt it necessary to promote > a competitive free and open source office suite. I thought the only way > I could be of service was to join the Documenters. Once I realized > that's not just writing I've tried to work into a coordinating > position while I learn more about the craft. > > Since I've begun with LibreOffice, there seems to be a split between > the n00bs who joined on with LibreOffice and the old-schoolers who > have been up and down since StarOffice, and what is the best way to work > toward LibreOffice documentation. > > I just want to see one big happy family working in a coordinated way. > In light of the recent developments at Oracle, and the perhaps timely > personal disaster we have experienced with our Alfresco workflow being > reset, I wonder in which direction the community will go. > > Is Jean Hollis Weber willing/able to modify her accepted plone setup to > not rely so much on OpenOffice.org workflow and getting started > documentation? Is David Nelson going to re-emerge as the driving force > behind Alfresco? Is there going to be some consensus reached as to what > is the real and proper way to document LibreOffice? I wonder in which > direction the community will go. > > If a leader emerges, I will follow. If one doesn't emerge... we need > a leader. > > tl;dr Wat Do? > > -- jdc > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
