Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Latest GS 6 chapter files?

2018-03-25 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hi Jean,

Where can I get chapters after proofreading?
We would like to do not have a big lag of translation from the
original publication.
Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Lera


2018-03-02 15:53 GMT+03:00 Olivier Hallot :
> Hello Jean
>
> The chapters are in the 6.0 Feedback folders. Some are marked "ready for
> publication":
>
> GS6000 - Preface
> GS6003 - Styles and Templates
> GS6007 - Draw
> GS6008 - Base
> GS6016 - ODF standards
>
> More to come.
>
>
> Em 02/03/2018 02:18, Jean Weber escreveu:
>> Olivier, Dave, et al,
>> I see from the minutes of the latest Docs Team meeting that several
>> chapters are considered "ready for publication". Where can I get a
>> copy of these chapters? I'm a bit confused by the contents of the
>> Feedback folder. Thanks!
>>
>> --Jean
>>
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[libreoffice-documentation] GS6003 - Sryles and Templates -- Repository in Templates dialog

2018-03-25 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hi all,

The section "Adding templates obtained from other sources" of "GS6003
- Sryles and Templates" chapter has mention about Repository:
"If you have enabled experimental features in Tools > Options >
LibreOffice > Advanced, the Templates dialog shows a Repository button
that you can use to add other template repositories. As this is an
experimental feature, it may not work reliably."
Now this button is not available, no matter experimental features is
enabled or not.
We should remove the mention of not confusing the beginner.

Best regards,
Lera

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[libreoffice-documentation] Update GS6013 Getting Started With Macros

2018-03-21 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hi all,

I finished to make changes to GS6013. To the greater extent this is an
attempt to clarify terms that may not be clear to a novice and the
replacement of some screenshots. The document has a record of changes and
comments, so I hope what reasons why I make that changes, and it will be
clear.

https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo-6.0/gs-6013-getting-started-with-macros/view

Best regards,
Lera

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[libreoffice-documentation] GS 6.0 - Chapter 16 (Appendix B)

2018-03-03 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hi all,

I make a translate of this Chapter and see paralogism.
In the paragraph "How is LibreOffice licensed?" talks about MPL. And the
next paragraph talk about principles in GPL. There is nothing explanations
about that MPL and GPL are copyleft and interchangeable. However, the user,
especially one that is just starting way into the Open Source Software,
does not have to know the subtleties of licensing. If you strictly do not
want to say that LibreOffice is licensed under two licenses MPL and GPL
(and this is so, see the code), this requires at least to clarify that the
licenses are very similar and compatible.
Otherwise, it's just not clear.

How is LibreOffice licensed?
LibreOffice is distributed under the Mozilla Public License (MPL) 2.0.
See https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/licenses/
What is “open source”?
The four essential rights of open-source software are embodied within the
Free Software Foundation’s General Public License (GPL):

Best regards,
Lera

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Runtime functions

2018-02-12 Thread Lera Goncharuk
hi,

2018-02-12 14:30 GMT+03:00 Olivier Hallot :
>
> I only have a guess: make a difference with Calc functions. In some
> cases like Cos, Sin, and some VBA financial functions, the function name
> and results returned are the same.
Do I understand correctly that it is for this reason the functions in
Writer tables are called formulas? :)
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/swriter/main0214.html
Although in the other place they are called all the same functions.
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/swriter/02/1402.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN
Note: it is without some [NoRuntime], or [NoCalc]. or even [Writer].

> So I humbly beg to differ on the obstruction the reading of the Help. It
> does not affect my reading.
In the letter Jean-Francois Nifenecker talks about his book and lists the
names of the chapters. One of the chapters has the title "5 - Runtime
Library".
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg11968.html
I have not read his book, but I guess he does not write about a Runtime
Library. Most likely he chose this name only because after each function in
the help we use the term Runtime.

In addition, I really do not understand why the user should confuse
functions from different modules.
For example:
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/sbasic/shared/03080102.html?DbPAR=BASIC#bm_id3154923
Nowhere is it said that this is a function of Basic, and a beginner may not
even know that we note the functions of this module by the strange
expression [Runtime].
But the user still understands what he reads about the Basic function.
And I think that it would be more useful to specify explicitly: "A function
Basic that calculates the cosine of an angle." Instead of no one
understandable [Runtime].

> And please note that a change like this will trigger a set of
> translation rework.
Yes, we need to think about translation, and in this case it's 700+ lines.
But we also need to think about how to take out a garbage in time.
Otherwise, we will have only the garbage.

PS: I added Jean-Francois Nifenecker to CC. May be he knows what means
[Runtime].
Because for me it still looks like "Cos Function [👌]"

Best regards,
Lera

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[libreoffice-documentation] Runtime functions

2018-02-11 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hi all,

I would like to raise the issue of using a word "Runtime" with a name of
functions in LibreOffice help.
There are several meanings of this word.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runtime_library
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runtime_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_time_(program_lifecycle_phase)
Are there functions in Basic to other time of the lifecycle?
I do not quite understand the reason for using this term in the help. I
assume that the authors of the old help wanted to emphasize that those are
built-in functions which translated into bytecode. Or in other words it is
a function of execution environment.

But does it make sense to use this term beside to each function?
In my opinion, [Runtime] obstructs reading the help.

Is there a reason to save this word in the help beside each function?
If there is no reason to save it, I will prepare a patch to remove it from
the help.

Best regards,
Lera

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[libreoffice-documentation] Mistake in GSG 5.1

2016-08-18 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hi,

There is mistake in LibreOffice 5.1 Getting Started on the 46 page.
>https://www.https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/themes/
This is several links:
The http://www.getpersonas.com/ looks like "http", "://www." and "s".
And https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/themes/ looks like 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/themes/.
I think we should to delete the "https://www."; part with links of 
http://www.getpersonas.com/.

Best regards,
Lera

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started 5.1

2016-04-08 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hi Andrew,

В письме от 7 апреля 2016 11:00:45 пользователь Andrew Wetmore написал:
> I said this to Oliver directly, forgetting to "reply all":
> 
>  I don't think it's a good idea to move away from immediacy ("you") to a
> more remote tone ("the user"). This goes contrary to current trends in
> documentation.
I do not think that the excessive use of "you" is good style. But  team has to 
decide this.
In any case, I do not see such much of "you" in popular science journals 
(which have been writing really beautiful and plain language) and technical 
documentation (that does not use "you" never).

PS: I am not native English speaker, of course.

Best regards,
Lera

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started 5.1

2016-04-08 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hello Olivier,

Can I upload the latest draft Getting Started 5.1 Preface?
I have made a few more change?

Best regards,
Lera

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[libreoffice-documentation] mistake in Getting Starting LO 5.0

2016-03-25 Thread lera . goncharuk
Hi all,

I start to read Getting Starting LO 5.0 and saw mention about the Help Agent 
(see the paragraph Help system [1]). This features was deleted from LO some 
time ago (see  Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General).
Coul anybody correct this, please?

Also, I found mention about Help Agent in online Help [2]

1. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/5/5c/GS5000-Preface.odt
2. https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Help_Agent,_Tips_and_Extended_Tips

Best regards,
Lera



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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide and Calc Guide for 5.*

2016-03-21 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hello,

Maybe someone from the authors team of Guide can answer my question. When
can we wait a release of the Writer Guide and the Calc Guide for 5.*?

Best regards,
Lera

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[libreoffice-documentation] How to add/delete a column without changing the size of the other columns

2014-11-01 Thread Lera Goncharuk
Hi,

Our wiki TDF has an article «How to add/delete a column without changing the 
size of the other columns» [1]. I can not achieve the expected result when I 
follow this instruction. Perhaps, something is missing there or there is 
another way to do it.
Thanks for any ideas.

Lera.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Writer/161

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: proposal to change the wiki presentation

2014-09-12 Thread Lera Goncharuk
В письме от 12 сентября 2014 13:15:47 пользователь William Gathoye написал:
> Hi *,
> 
> This message aims to keep a note in this mailing list and follow the
> discussion I had with sophi on the IRC channel #libreoffice-dev.
> 
> While the current Documentation/fr presentation is really clear and in
> accordance with the Keep It Simple Stupid principle I love, I
> recommend you to rethink the use of horizontal scares.
> 
> This is really annoying on mobile devices, especially as the wiki does
> not have a mobile version. This is not a responsive website, this is a
> wiki after where content must be vertical.
> 
> Simply use vertical titles like this:
> 
> = Documentation =
> 
> == For users ==
> 
> == For contributors ==
> 
> == For developers ==
> 
> Adding scares with colors are really awful on the code side: you have
>  and hardcoded colors everywhere.
> 
> But if you really want to keep that horizontal layout, please take
> example on the Arch Linux wiki [1] which is light and still readable
> on mobile devices, because the layout is not cluttered.
> 
> But, yeah, the English doc page requires a new rewrite. I even wanted
> to do it by myself, when I browsed info for LOWN, but yet didn't find
> the time to do it.
> 
> And after LOWN 5 is published today, I'm gonna add more information
> what the guides from the publication page are about, especially the
> sevral Base guides we have.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/
> 
> --
> William Gathoye
> 

Hi,

I think that view of tables is nice and clear. View for mobile platforms 
should not be in the design for desktop, but we need to install an extension 
for these platforms. As far as I know, there is such extension for MediaWiki.
About . Yes, I agree with you. It is desirable to move all styles into 
the template. But, who will develop the template now? If you or somebody else 
makes a good template for a table, I can spend time for bringing all the pages 
into a single view.

Best regards,
Lera


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: proposal to change the wiki presentation

2014-09-12 Thread Lera Goncharuk
В письме от 12 сентября 2014 10:12:32 пользователь Alex Thurgood написал:
> Le 10/09/2014 20:32, Lera Goncharuk a écrit :
> 
> I find dark blue links on dark green background harder to read than on
> the pale "green", but that's just my 2c.
> 
> 
> Alex

Hi, Alex.

I agree with you partly. And I think that links in a title of a table isn't a 
good idea. But wiki pages in the section EN use LibreOfficeColor-backgrond2 and 
LibreOfficeColor-fontcolor templates. And we should use them in order to our 
designers can change style in all pages easier.
I think that this question makes sense to raise in mail list Desing 
(des...@global.libreoffice.org).

Best regards,
Lera

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] proposal to change the wiki presentation

2014-09-10 Thread Lera Goncharuk
В письме от 10 сентября 2014 19:58:34 пользователь Sophie написал:
> Hi all,
> 
> So, I'm still reading the wiki to see where I can improve things in a
> first step:
> - I would like to modify the presentation of this page:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
> to look like this one:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/fr
> that I found more readable and direct
> 
> - the same for the macro page:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros
> to look like this one
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros/fr
> 

Hi,

This is a great idea. But I think it's better to use a style like this 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page

The best regards,
Lera

> - I would like to reference all the videos here
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Re
> sources#Video_Tutorials
> 
> in our official youtube channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQAClQkZEm2rkWvU5bvCAXQ/playlists
> and then point directly the link to the relevant playlists on the wiki
> that would display like this
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0pdzjvYW9RFFHskLsq3Rvb5NpoFi_ud2
> 
> Please, let me know if you agree with those changes, I'll do them over
> the week-end.
> Thanks!
> Sophie


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