Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
Later chapters have a lot of Linux pix. Jean On Wednesday, February 16, 2011, JDługosz wrote: > > Everything I've seen in the Writer document has been done on Windows (Vista > or 7). > > If we want to avoid using MS's elements, useful screen shots like showing > what's on a particular property page can be done by shooting the client area > of the window only. > > There is also a product called "Window Blinds" which allows skinning of > Windows. > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/First-pass-complete-tp2489501p2505130.html > Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
Hi, :-) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 14:05, Hal Parker wrote: > I've got a wiki account and can put chapters on the wiki when they are > ready, no problem. I'm not sure I can do whatever is needed to link to them > from the Documentation page on the website, when the time comes for that. OK, I can help with that, but you'll see it's really easy. > I suspect the Writer Guide chapters won't all be otherwise "done" before the > 20th, so I'm sure we can put you to work doing screenshots at that time. :-) No problemo. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:18 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > > On the same principle, I don't think we should delay the first edition of > > the Writer Guide only to update the screenshots; IMO we should publish > the > > chapters ASAP and move on, returning to fiddle with pix when we're doing > > other updates and revisions. > > I'm not sure what to say about this. Personally, I don't have a > problem with Windows screenshots but, anticipating what certain others > might say, it might be better to hold back a little longer and do > those screenshots so as to put the problem to rest... > > > I'd like to see the WG chapters available to the public on the wiki as > soon > > as we're verified that the facts are correct. So far, the work Barbara's > > done that I've checked looks very close to first publication (by my > > standards); I'm hoping to quickly get through the other chapters she's > done, > > though I may be overly optimistic about my time available. > > Apart from the screenshots thing above, I'd agree it would be best to > get it out as quickly as possible. Are you guys OK with working the > wiki pages, or would you like me, or someone else, to deal with that? > > Do you guys have wiki accounts already? If not, tell me and I'll > create them for you. > > > Of course, if several people with non-Windows boxes can tackle the pix > > quickly enough, publication would not be delayed. > > I certainly can't jump in before Feb 20, but I'll be happy to help out > as from that date. If that helps, please tell me and I'll put aside > time for that, and work under your coordination on it. > > David Nelson > > I've got a wiki account and can put chapters on the wiki when they are ready, no problem. I'm not sure I can do whatever is needed to link to them from the Documentation page on the website, when the time comes for that. I suspect the Writer Guide chapters won't all be otherwise "done" before the 20th, so I'm sure we can put you to work doing screenshots at that time. :-) Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
Hi, :-) > On the same principle, I don't think we should delay the first edition of > the Writer Guide only to update the screenshots; IMO we should publish the > chapters ASAP and move on, returning to fiddle with pix when we're doing > other updates and revisions. I'm not sure what to say about this. Personally, I don't have a problem with Windows screenshots but, anticipating what certain others might say, it might be better to hold back a little longer and do those screenshots so as to put the problem to rest... > I'd like to see the WG chapters available to the public on the wiki as soon > as we're verified that the facts are correct. So far, the work Barbara's > done that I've checked looks very close to first publication (by my > standards); I'm hoping to quickly get through the other chapters she's done, > though I may be overly optimistic about my time available. Apart from the screenshots thing above, I'd agree it would be best to get it out as quickly as possible. Are you guys OK with working the wiki pages, or would you like me, or someone else, to deal with that? Do you guys have wiki accounts already? If not, tell me and I'll create them for you. > Of course, if several people with non-Windows boxes can tackle the pix > quickly enough, publication would not be delayed. I certainly can't jump in before Feb 20, but I'll be happy to help out as from that date. If that helps, please tell me and I'll put aside time for that, and work under your coordination on it. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:47 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:10, Hal Parker wrote: > > Fortunately, many of the screenshots are already from Linux (usually > > Ubuntu), and many others are o/s neutral (for example, bits of a > spreadsheet > > that don't show the window decoration), but yes there are quite a few > > clearly from Windows -- though old WinXP pix look to me more like Ubuntu > > than WinVista or Win7. > > > > When I am retaking pix for other reasons, I'm taking them on Ubuntu, but > I > > haven't been retaking all the pix just to get them out of Windows. > > > > Do we have a requirement to get rid of all the Windows pix in the Writer > > Guide before publishing the first edition? > > Well, given the firm opposition to Windows screenshots I've read in > the recent past, I'd say it would be a good idea... > > > The Getting Started book certainly hasn't had all the Windows pix > replaced. > > I guess it would be an issue to be addressed, hopefully with > preparation of a revised edition for lulu.com... > > Again, this is just my 2 cents based on previous discussions in the lists. > > David Nelson > > Certainly a revised Getting Started book (which needs other corrections and updates, not just the pix) should have the screenshots replaced. I rather jumped the gun shoving out the book before it was fully reviewed and edited, on the theory that it's more efficient to ask forgiveness than it is to ask permission. ;-) On the same principle, I don't think we should delay the first edition of the Writer Guide only to update the screenshots; IMO we should publish the chapters ASAP and move on, returning to fiddle with pix when we're doing other updates and revisions. I'd like to see the WG chapters available to the public on the wiki as soon as we're verified that the facts are correct. So far, the work Barbara's done that I've checked looks very close to first publication (by my standards); I'm hoping to quickly get through the other chapters she's done, though I may be overly optimistic about my time available. Of course, if several people with non-Windows boxes can tackle the pix quickly enough, publication would not be delayed. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
Hi, :-) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:10, Hal Parker wrote: > Fortunately, many of the screenshots are already from Linux (usually > Ubuntu), and many others are o/s neutral (for example, bits of a spreadsheet > that don't show the window decoration), but yes there are quite a few > clearly from Windows -- though old WinXP pix look to me more like Ubuntu > than WinVista or Win7. > > When I am retaking pix for other reasons, I'm taking them on Ubuntu, but I > haven't been retaking all the pix just to get them out of Windows. > > Do we have a requirement to get rid of all the Windows pix in the Writer > Guide before publishing the first edition? Well, given the firm opposition to Windows screenshots I've read in the recent past, I'd say it would be a good idea... > The Getting Started book certainly hasn't had all the Windows pix replaced. I guess it would be an issue to be addressed, hopefully with preparation of a revised edition for lulu.com... Again, this is just my 2 cents based on previous discussions in the lists. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:26 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 02:44, Barbara Duprey wrote: > > I'm on Windows 7, David. There are probably going to be a large number of > > graphics replacements needed -- even beyond the OOo refs, there appear to > be > > significant differences in icons, and so on. Gonna be fun, huh? > > It sounds like a major rework of all the graphic content in all the > docs is going to be an upcoming task... Most of the screenshots will > have to be taken on Linux (obviously, there will be a certain number > needed for Mac and Windows). > > Fortunately, many of the screenshots are already from Linux (usually Ubuntu), and many others are o/s neutral (for example, bits of a spreadsheet that don't show the window decoration), but yes there are quite a few clearly from Windows -- though old WinXP pix look to me more like Ubuntu than WinVista or Win7. When I am retaking pix for other reasons, I'm taking them on Ubuntu, but I haven't been retaking all the pix just to get them out of Windows. Do we have a requirement to get rid of all the Windows pix in the Writer Guide before publishing the first edition? The Getting Started book certainly hasn't had all the Windows pix replaced. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
Hi, :-) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 02:44, Barbara Duprey wrote: > I'm on Windows 7, David. There are probably going to be a large number of > graphics replacements needed -- even beyond the OOo refs, there appear to be > significant differences in icons, and so on. Gonna be fun, huh? It sounds like a major rework of all the graphic content in all the docs is going to be an upcoming task... Most of the screenshots will have to be taken on Linux (obviously, there will be a certain number needed for Mac and Windows). It's going to be a busy year. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
On 2/14/2011 11:35 AM, David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) I haven't looked, I must admit. Are you on Windows, Mac or Linux, Barbara? David Nelson I'm on Windows 7, David. There are probably going to be a large number of graphics replacements needed -- even beyond the OOo refs, there appear to be significant differences in icons, and so on. Gonna be fun, huh? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
Hi, :-) I haven't looked, I must admit. Are you on Windows, Mac or Linux, Barbara? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
On 2/13/2011 10:01 PM, David Nelson wrote: Hi Barbara, :-) If you look in the Various space, you'll see that there's a zip file containing screenshots done by Ron Faile... Maybe they can be useful? David Nelson As I understand it, those screenshots were for a couple of early Writer chapters -- and done with Windows, which we are not using now for legal reasons. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
Hi Barbara, :-) If you look in the Various space, you'll see that there's a zip file containing screenshots done by Ron Faile... Maybe they can be useful? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete
OK, all the files for the Calc Guide are in the LibO format now. I'll start working on the screenshot verifications tomorrow, where I can. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete -- except Chapter 1
Hi, :-) On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:04, Barbara Duprey wrote: > except that Chapter 1 is locked (by Jeremy, apparently). Since it seems to have been locked since Jan 30, I unlocked it. If Jeremy has done stuff on it in the meantime, I'll can integrate the 2 docs if needed... But maybe he just forgot he'd locked it? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] First pass complete -- except Chapter 1
I've finished the first pass for the Calc Guide, doing all the mechanical things, except that Chapter 1 is locked (by Jeremy, apparently). In addition to the previously mentioned blank index entries in Chapter 2, there were none at all in Chapter 8. One question that is belatedly occurring to me -- in the Acknowledgments section, the OOo chapters often had references to outside sources. I replaced the section with one referencing the OOo guide and the people who were on its contributors list, without the other acknowledgments. But should those be replicated as well? (Note that in some cases, this would force the TOC to a later page.) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
