Re: [Dorset] Full Root Partition

2015-01-19 Thread C A Wills
Thanks to David and Ralph, now able to get into the laptop and to prove 
it this reply is from  laptop.
David you were right files were in the trash folder and hence partition 
not 'cleared'. From live disk checked 'Trash' and deleted the backup 
which showed all files copied to root.  Now / is only using 22% of space.

Many thanks for quick fix! Knew I could rely on DLUG list.

C A Wills

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On 19/01/15 17:48, David Wilkinson wrote:

Hi Clive,

How did you remove the backup?
If it was via the GUI then I suspect it has gone in to the trash 
folder. ( ~/.local/share/Trash)


The other possibility is that the changes didn't write to the hard 
drive, If the backup files are still there then after removing them 
issue a "sync" command in to a terminal to make sure the changes are 
flushed out to the disk.


Regards

David



On 19/01/15 17:31, Clive Wills wrote:

Hi All

Just clearing out my 'Home' folder on laptop and copying it to a 
separate disk all OK.
So decided to 'Back-up' the 'Home' folder onto the NAS drive using 
Lucky Backup on my Mint 16 system. (Lucky Backup is a graphical front 
end to Rsync)  Did a verification run to check if all OK and it was; 
so pressed Backup and watched it run through the Home folder, it got 
to within the last few files then reported something like "/ file 
system full, operation terminated"!!


Had to run from a 'Live' disk to see what happened as the NAS drive 
is a 2Tb drive.  It would appear that the backup was saved to the 
laptop's /root partition (System partition) not the NAS! No wonder it 
was full as the root partition was only 27Gb and the backup was 
larger than that.
Using the 'Live' disk I thought I'd removed (deleted) the backup file 
from / hoping to free up space and then re-booted.  Still reports 
system full and looking, via Gparted, at that partition - it's still 
showing full?


On re-booting laptop reports quote:-
"MDM could not write a new authorisation entry to disk. Possibly out 
of diskspace. Error: No space left on device".


Terminal quote then carries on with:-
 [ 54.4015821 sd 6:o:o:o: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed.
 [ 54.4016501 sd 6:o:o:o: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through.
 [ 106.1986421 sd 6:o:o:o: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed.

This then carries on and nothing can be done.

Why does it not accept that the large file has been deleted and still 
shows partition full?
How can I recover that partitions empty space? and get entry to the 
system.  I thought that deleting the file from a live system would 
have given enough space back to carry on booting in.


Clive





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Re: [Dorset] Full Root Partition

2015-01-19 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Clive,

David wrote:
> How did you remove the backup?  If it was via the GUI then I suspect
> it has gone in to the trash folder.  ( ~/.local/share/Trash)

That would be my guess.  Open a terminal from the Live boot, find and
remove the file from that.  Useful commands are

cd dir -- change working directory to dir
pwd -- print working directory
ls -- list files
ls -l -- long listing, fifth field is file's extent in bytes
df . -- disk free for filesystem containing working directory
rm foo -- remove file foo, no recovery or getting it back
find -name '*foo*' -- search from working directory down for that file

Hopefully, you can find where the backup is now and remove it, df will
show lots of space.  If you find it, but can't remove it, a
copy-and-paste of the terminal's contents with the problem would be
helpful.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] Full Root Partition

2015-01-19 Thread David Wilkinson

Hi Clive,

How did you remove the backup?
If it was via the GUI then I suspect it has gone in to the trash folder. 
( ~/.local/share/Trash)


The other possibility is that the changes didn't write to the hard 
drive, If the backup files are still there then after removing them 
issue a "sync" command in to a terminal to make sure the changes are 
flushed out to the disk.


Regards

David



On 19/01/15 17:31, Clive Wills wrote:

Hi All

Just clearing out my 'Home' folder on laptop and copying it to a 
separate disk all OK.
So decided to 'Back-up' the 'Home' folder onto the NAS drive using 
Lucky Backup on my Mint 16 system. (Lucky Backup is a graphical front 
end to Rsync)  Did a verification run to check if all OK and it was; 
so pressed Backup and watched it run through the Home folder, it got 
to within the last few files then reported something like "/ file 
system full, operation terminated"!!


Had to run from a 'Live' disk to see what happened as the NAS drive is 
a 2Tb drive.  It would appear that the backup was saved to the 
laptop's /root partition (System partition) not the NAS! No wonder it 
was full as the root partition was only 27Gb and the backup was larger 
than that.
Using the 'Live' disk I thought I'd removed (deleted) the backup file 
from / hoping to free up space and then re-booted.  Still reports 
system full and looking, via Gparted, at that partition - it's still 
showing full?


On re-booting laptop reports quote:-
"MDM could not write a new authorisation entry to disk. Possibly out 
of diskspace. Error: No space left on device".


Terminal quote then carries on with:-
 [ 54.4015821 sd 6:o:o:o: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed.
 [ 54.4016501 sd 6:o:o:o: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through.
 [ 106.1986421 sd 6:o:o:o: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed.

This then carries on and nothing can be done.

Why does it not accept that the large file has been deleted and still 
shows partition full?
How can I recover that partitions empty space? and get entry to the 
system.  I thought that deleting the file from a live system would 
have given enough space back to carry on booting in.


Clive



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[Dorset] Full Root Partition

2015-01-19 Thread Clive Wills

Hi All

Just clearing out my 'Home' folder on laptop and copying it to a 
separate disk all OK.
So decided to 'Back-up' the 'Home' folder onto the NAS drive using Lucky 
Backup on my Mint 16 system. (Lucky Backup is a graphical front end to 
Rsync)  Did a verification run to check if all OK and it was; so pressed 
Backup and watched it run through the Home folder, it got to within the 
last few files then reported something like "/ file system full, 
operation terminated"!!


Had to run from a 'Live' disk to see what happened as the NAS drive is a 
2Tb drive.  It would appear that the backup was saved to the laptop's 
/root partition (System partition) not the NAS!  No wonder it was full 
as the root partition was only 27Gb and the backup was larger than that.
Using the 'Live' disk I thought I'd removed (deleted) the backup file 
from / hoping to free up space and then re-booted.  Still reports system 
full and looking, via Gparted, at that partition - it's still showing full?


On re-booting laptop reports quote:-
"MDM could not write a new authorisation entry to disk. Possibly out of 
diskspace. Error: No space left on device".


Terminal quote then carries on with:-
 [ 54.4015821 sd 6:o:o:o: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed.
 [ 54.4016501 sd 6:o:o:o: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through.
 [ 106.1986421 sd 6:o:o:o: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed.

This then carries on and nothing can be done.

Why does it not accept that the large file has been deleted and still 
shows partition full?
How can I recover that partitions empty space? and get entry to the 
system.  I thought that deleting the file from a live system would have 
given enough space back to carry on booting in.


Clive

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