[Dorset] Disk size in Asus EEE
I'm getting a bit confused with the diskspace available on my mother's Asus EEE 700. By default, these came with a 4G flash drive and I've added a 4G SD card. Xandros seems to have appended the SD Card to the original 4G, because the Disk Utility (a GUI tool in the Settings tab) says that all the space is on one drive. However, it also says that there is only 4G In a shell I get: /home/user> df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs 1.4G 841M 508M 63% / /dev/sda1 1.4G 841M 508M 63% / unionfs 1.4G 841M 508M 63% / tmpfs 249M 20K 249M 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 128M 24K 128M 1% /tmp /dev/sdb1 3.8G 561M 3.2G 15% /media/D: Can anyone explain where her other space has gone? She keeps filling up the disk, even though there is loads left. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Disk size in Asus EEE
Hi Terry, > /home/user> df -h > Filesystem           Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > rootfs               1.4G 841M 508M 63% / > /dev/sda1            1.4G 841M 508M 63% / > unionfs              1.4G 841M 508M 63% / > tmpfs                249M  20K 249M  1% /dev/shm > tmpfs                128M  24K 128M  1% /tmp > /dev/sdb1            3.8G 561M 3.2G 15% /media/D: >  > Can anyone explain where her other space has gone? She keeps filling > up the disk, even though there is loads left. You'd think, looking at that, that much of sda's space is not being used. You can use fdisk(8) to list the partitions on each drive. The size of each unit is given in the preamble. sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb It could be sda has a partition that isn't being mounted so it's available for use. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Disk size in Asus EEE
On Tue, Jun 22 at 09:15, d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: > I'm getting a bit confused with the diskspace available on my mother's Asus > EEE > 700. By default, these came with a 4G flash drive and I've added a 4G SD card. > > Xandros seems to have appended the SD Card to the original 4G, because the > Disk > Utility (a GUI tool in the Settings tab) says that all the space is on one > drive. However, it also says that there is only 4G > > In a shell I get: > > /home/user> df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > rootfs 1.4G 841M 508M 63% / > /dev/sda1 1.4G 841M 508M 63% / > unionfs1.4G 841M 508M 63% / > tmpfs 249M 20K249M1% /dev/shm > tmpfs 128M 24K128M1% /tmp > /dev/sdb1 3.8G 561M 3.2G 15% /media/D: > > Can anyone explain where her other space has gone??? She keeps filling up the > disk, even though there is loads left. I've not used a 700 but I'm guessing disk space is about right. The initial 4G (sda) will also have big chunks reserved for swap and the Xandros recovery partition. Hence only 1.4G for the user. Having had to cleanup a 901 recently I suspect the problme you are hitting is not raw space but inode allocation. Try a "df -i" to check. Xandros seems to leave a lot of temporary files lying around eating up inodes. One cleanup suggested on the web is: sudo find / -iname '.wh*' -delete Also: sudo apt-get clean I tried both of these by remote control. I wonder if talking a seismologist through things step by step is any easier than your mother :-) It gave us some short term relief. Ultimate solution is to replace the aging and poorly supported Xandros with something newer. On the 901 for general use I can recommend Ubuntu Remix 10.4. I don't know if it will fit on a 700. -- Bob Dunlop -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Disk size in Asus EEE
On 23 June 2010 at 09:38 Bob Dunlop wrote: > I've not used a 700 but I'm guessing disk space is about right. > The initial 4G (sda) will also have big chunks reserved for swap and the > Xandros recovery partition. Hence only 1.4G for the user. Yes. I've now discovered that sda is split into two parts and df wwas being confused somehow. There is a 100 % full partition of 2.3G called sda1, according to the Diagnostic Utility in the Settings tab. I assume that's the Xandros system partition, but I can't work out how to get at it. The 1.4G partition is sda2. > Having had to cleanup a 901 recently I suspect the problme you are hitting > is not raw space but inode allocation. Try a "df -i" to check. Xandros > seems to leave a lot of temporary files lying around eating up inodes. > > One cleanup suggested on the web is: > sudo find / -iname '.wh*' -delete > Also: > sudo apt-get clean I couldn't get those to do anything. > I tried both of these by remote control. I wonder if talking a seismologist > through things step by step is any easier than your mother :-) It gave us > some short term relief. Actually, I'm staying with her for a couple of days; hence the tasks. > Ultimate solution is to replace the aging and poorly supported Xandros with > something newer. On the 901 for general use I can recommend Ubuntu Remix > 10.4. I don't know if it will fit on a 700. That's what I'd like to do, but I think she needs more time to get used to the idea. It runs well on my wife's 900. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Disk size in Asus EEE
On 23 June 2010 at 00:57 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > You'd think, looking at that, that much of sda's space is not being > used. You can use fdisk(8) to list the partitions on each drive. The > size of each unit is given in the preamble. > > sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda > sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb Thanks. This shows up even more: > sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 4001 MB, 4001292288 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 486 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 300 2409718+ 83 Linux /dev/sda2 301 484 1477980 83 Linux /dev/sda3 485 485 8032+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda4 486 486 8032+ ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32) /> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 4026 MB, 4026531840 bytes 31 heads, 30 sectors/track, 8456 cylinders Units = cylinders of 930 * 512 = 476160 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 9 8457 3928064 b W95 FAT32 > It could be sda has a partition that isn't being mounted so it's > available for use. I don't know about being available for use, but there are at least three partitions that aren't accessible to everyday users. I'll definitely think about an upgrade to UNR. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Disk size in Asus EEE
On 23/06/10 17:29, d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: > I'll definitely think about an upgrade to UNR. > As I recall UNR was a non-starter for EeePC 700 - slow to the point of being unusable, possibly on account of it being optimised for other hardware (Intel Atom?), or simply due to the lack of resources on the EeePC. In the end I went for PupEee: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/EeePC One thing I would say there though is that, depending upon who this is for, Puppy/PupEee isn't an ideal beginner distro from an admin perspective. Sean -- music, film, comics, books, rants and drivel: www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Disk size in Asus EEE
On Wednesday 23 Jun 2010, Sean Gibbins wrote: > As I recall UNR was a non-starter for EeePC 700 - slow to the point of > being unusable, possibly on account of it being optimised for other > hardware (Intel Atom?), or simply due to the lack of resources on the > EeePC. Was that with an earlier version of UNR? My wife's EEE 900 has the same processor and RAM as the 700 and she seems to be pretty happy with it. The big problem with the 700 is the screen size. I'm on the lookout for a bigger netbook for Mum, possibly a Dell Mini 10 or some such. I could then give her a real upgrade, including the display, which has really been the only complaint she's had with it in two years of use. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Disk size in Asus EEE
Hi Terry, >   Device Boot     Start        End     Blocks  > Id System > /dev/sda1              1        300    > 2409718+ 83 Linux > /dev/sda2            301        484    1477980  > 83 Linux > /dev/sda3            485        485       > 8032+  c W95 FAT32 (LBA) > /dev/sda4            486        486       > 8032+ ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32) Interesting. And it's going to the effort of having the second partition be known as /dev/sda1 when it's mounted on /. Wonder how it's doing that because the minor device number of sda1's inode should be 1, i.e. on my machine: brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 0 2010-06-05 14:22 /dev/sda brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 1 2010-06-09 19:01 /dev/sda1 brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 2 2010-06-09 19:01 /dev/sda2 Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Disk size in Asus EEE
On 24/06/10 11:40, Terry Coles wrote: > On Wednesday 23 Jun 2010, Sean Gibbins wrote: > >> As I recall UNR was a non-starter for EeePC 700 - slow to the point of >> being unusable, possibly on account of it being optimised for other >> hardware (Intel Atom?), or simply due to the lack of resources on the >> EeePC. >> > Was that with an earlier version of UNR? My wife's EEE 900 has the same > processor and RAM as the 700 and she seems to be pretty happy with it. > Good question Terry. It was certainly an early version of UNR, before or around the time it became 'official' as I recall, so maybe it has come on since then. > The big problem with the 700 is the screen size. I'm on the lookout for a > bigger netbook for Mum, possibly a Dell Mini 10 or some such. I could then > give her a real upgrade, including the display, which has really been the only > complaint she's had with it in two years of use. > Battery life, heat, performance and keyboard/screen size made me glad ours was on loan rathered than purchased to be honest. I gather the 10" versions are much better. Sean -- music, film, comics, books, rants and drivel: www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
