Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 22:28 +0100, Chris Dennis wrote: > On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote: > > > > Thought you might like this > > > > http://test-ipv6.com/ > > Can anyone recommend any books on IPv6? > > I've found this webpage to be useful, although a lot of it is from a > Windows point of view: > > > http://yorickdowne.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/ipv6-at-home-or-office-part-4-0-tunnelbroker-net-ipv6-routers/ > > cheers > > Chris > I thought that I had something on IPv6, but cannot find it, either electronically or in the Filing Cabinet. Sorry. Best I could do was http://www.6uk.org.uk/ Peter -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote: Thought you might like this http://test-ipv6.com/ Can anyone recommend any books on IPv6? I've found this webpage to be useful, although a lot of it is from a Windows point of view: http://yorickdowne.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/ipv6-at-home-or-office-part-4-0-tunnelbroker-net-ipv6-routers/ cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On 22/04/11 01:30, Andrew Morgan wrote: On 21/04/11 20:21, Chris Dennis wrote: I've just had a couple of emails from Jason Fesler who runs test-ipv6.com, and he says: \ Unless you're trying to reach sites that are IPv6-only and have no way to be reached via IPv4, I'd consider disabling teredo and miredo. You're intentionally prefering complex setups that can take your packets through further routes, and through locations you have nobody to complain to when they break. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teredo_tunneling http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457011.aspx Is that true? Do teredo/miredo make connections more complicated for IPv4 addresses? If your only IPv6 connection is via Teredo, and if the site you are trying to reach supports both IPv4 and IPv6, and if your software prefers IPv6 over IPv4 then yes, it will send the connection via Teredo rather than directly by IPv4. If the site is IPv4 only then no, it won't be more complicated. If the site is IPv6 only then it is via Teredo or nothing. Right, that makes sense. Thank you. -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:53:11 +0100, cgden...@btinternet.com said: > I know there's plain ip6tables, but can people recommend an easy-to-use > system for maintaining firewalls? Shorewall. Not a GUI, but it does an excellent job for both IPv4 and IPv6. -- "You can have everything in life you want if you help enough other people get what they want" - Zig Ziglar. Who did you help today? -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On 21/04/11 20:21, Chris Dennis wrote: I've just had a couple of emails from Jason Fesler who runs test-ipv6.com, and he says: \ Unless you're trying to reach sites that are IPv6-only and have no way to be reached via IPv4, I'd consider disabling teredo and miredo. You're intentionally prefering complex setups that can take your packets through further routes, and through locations you have nobody to complain to when they break. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teredo_tunneling http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457011.aspx Is that true? Do teredo/miredo make connections more complicated for IPv4 addresses? If your only IPv6 connection is via Teredo, and if the site you are trying to reach supports both IPv4 and IPv6, and if your software prefers IPv6 over IPv4 then yes, it will send the connection via Teredo rather than directly by IPv4. If the site is IPv4 only then no, it won't be more complicated. If the site is IPv6 only then it is via Teredo or nothing. -- Andrew. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On 19/04/11 23:47, Andrew Morgan wrote: In Ubuntu (and presumably Debian?) IPv6 support is as easy as 'apt-get install miredo'. It seems to be made of magic as it sets its self up automatically in seconds. I've done this on all of my Linux machines now. As IPv6 doesn't do NAT, miredo gives you an IPv6 address which is visible to the whole world, and therefore needs fire-walling. I know there's plain ip6tables, but can people recommend an easy-to-use system for maintaining firewalls? I've been using firehol, but the 'latest news' on its web-page was in 2008, and it doesn't do IPv6. cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On 19/04/11 23:47, Andrew Morgan wrote: On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote: Thought you might like this http://test-ipv6.com/ Well, my ISP and router don't support IPv6 but I discovered Miredo (Teredo) a while ago. It doesn't seem to work if both ends are using Teredo behind IPv4 NAT, but other than that it does allow you to connect to the IPv6 internet. In Ubuntu (and presumably Debian?) IPv6 support is as easy as 'apt-get install miredo'. It seems to be made of magic as it sets its self up automatically in seconds. I've done this on all of my Linux machines now. With Miredo I got 10/10 and 9/10 because my ISP's DNS server doesn't support IPv6. I've just had a couple of emails from Jason Fesler who runs test-ipv6.com, and he says: Unless you're trying to reach sites that are IPv6-only and have no way to be reached via IPv4, I'd consider disabling teredo and miredo. You're intentionally prefering complex setups that can take your packets through further routes, and through locations you have nobody to complain to when they break. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teredo_tunneling http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457011.aspx Is that true? Do teredo/miredo make connections more complicated for IPv4 addresses? cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On 20/04/11 00:27, Robert Bronsdon wrote: Is there any reason the DNS has to come from your ISP? Could you not run your own local IPv6 enabled DNS server? There is no reason it has to be your ISP's DNS servers, you can run your own. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready?
On 20/04/11 12:42, Chris Dennis wrote: On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote: Thought you might like this http://test-ipv6.com/ My ISP (UKFSN / Entanet) seems to be ready, but how do I actually get an IPV6 connection? Can anyone recommend a suitable wifi-enabled ADSL router for IPV6? cheers Chris There looks to be a couple listed on here - http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/Broadband_CPE -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready?
On 20/04/11 12:42, Chris Dennis wrote: Can anyone recommend a suitable wifi-enabled ADSL router for IPV6? The only one I've used was a 2Wire router, a long time ago. I think BT were doing an IPv6 test and I was surprised to find I got a real IPv6 address on it. Your best bet might be something which you can run OpenWRT on. Only trouble is their list of supported hardware doesn't seem to include anything which does ADSL, so you would have to get an ethernet (or 'cable') router and an ethernet ADSL modem. I've got a D-Link DIR-825 running OpenWRT and it was fairly easy to install. I don't have it connected to ADSL though. -- Andrew. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready?
On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote: Thought you might like this http://test-ipv6.com/ My ISP (UKFSN / Entanet) seems to be ready, but how do I actually get an IPV6 connection? Can anyone recommend a suitable wifi-enabled ADSL router for IPV6? cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
Hi Andrew, > According to the info on the test which fails: > *Confirmation:* |dig .v6ns.test-ipv6.com| should return back > an record without errors. > This returns SERVFAIL when using 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 as DNS servers. You're right. http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html#ipv6 Does Google Public DNS support IPv6? Google Public DNS can respond to requests for IPv6 addresses ( requests), but it does not yet support native IPv6 transport and cannot talk to IPv6-only authoritative nameservers. Clients should use IPv4 network connections to use Google Public DNS. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
> Well, my ISP and router don't support IPv6 but I discovered Miredo (Teredo) > a while ago. It doesn't seem to work if both ends are using Teredo behind > IPv4 NAT, but other than that it does allow you to connect to the IPv6 > internet. > > In Ubuntu (and presumably Debian?) IPv6 support is as easy as 'apt-get > install miredo'. It seems to be made of magic as it sets its self up > automatically in seconds. I've done this on all of my Linux machines now. > > With Miredo I got 10/10 and 9/10 because my ISP's DNS server doesn't support > IPv6. > Haven't looked into Miredo on my Arch Linux, but I did come across this article on the Arch Wiki that some may also find useful. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPv6_-_6in4_Tunnel I haven't had the chance to try it myself yet, but will do just as soon as my kernel finishes compiling. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On 20/04/11 00:07, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Andrew, With Miredo I got 10/10 and 9/10 because my ISP's DNS server doesn't support IPv6. Do you get that elusive last point if you switch to 8.8.4.4 and/or 8.8.8.8? No, still 9/10. According to the info on the test which fails: *Confirmation:* |dig .v6ns.test-ipv6.com| should return back an record without errors. This returns SERVFAIL when using 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 as DNS servers. -- Andrew. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 00:07:48 +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Do you get that elusive last point if you switch to 8.8.4.4 and/or 8.8.8.8? Is there any reason the DNS has to come from your ISP? Could you not run your own local IPv6 enabled DNS server? -- Robert Bronsdon -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
Hi Andrew, > With Miredo I got 10/10 and 9/10 because my ISP's DNS server doesn't > support IPv6. Do you get that elusive last point if you switch to 8.8.4.4 and/or 8.8.8.8? Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote: Thought you might like this http://test-ipv6.com/ Well, my ISP and router don't support IPv6 but I discovered Miredo (Teredo) a while ago. It doesn't seem to work if both ends are using Teredo behind IPv4 NAT, but other than that it does allow you to connect to the IPv6 internet. In Ubuntu (and presumably Debian?) IPv6 support is as easy as 'apt-get install miredo'. It seems to be made of magic as it sets its self up automatically in seconds. I've done this on all of my Linux machines now. With Miredo I got 10/10 and 9/10 because my ISP's DNS server doesn't support IPv6. -- Andrew. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote: Thought you might like this http://test-ipv6.com/ Tim -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue I am ready and have been for a while :) If you can't get IPv6 from your ISP you can always get it via a tunnel broker, I have used Hurricane Electric's before - http://www.tunnelbroker.net/ Your IPv4 address on the public internet appears to be 84.45.118.86 Your IPv6 address on the public internet appears to be 2001:9d8:face:2::1:dd05 7/8 tests run World IPv6 day is June 8th, 2011. No problems are anticipated for you with this browser, at this location. [more info] Congratulations! You appear to have both IPv4 and IPv6 internet working. If a publisher publishes to IPv6, your browser will connect using IPv6. Your browser prefers IPv6 over IPv4 when given the choice (this is the expected outcome). Your DNS server (possibly run by your ISP) appears to have IPv6 internet access. Your readiness scores 10/10for your IPv4 stability and readiness, when publishers offer both IPv4 and IPv6 10/10for your IPv6 stability and readiness, when publishers are forced to go IPv6 only -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 22:49 +0100, Tim wrote: > Thought you might like this > > http://test-ipv6.com/ > > Tim Your IPv4 address on the public internet appears to be 78.147.176.105 No IPv6 address detected [more info] World IPv6 day is June 8th, 2011. No problems are anticipated for you with this browser, at this location. [more info] You appear to be able to browse the IPv4 internet only. You will not be able to reach IPv6-only sites. Your DNS server (possibly run by your ISP) appears to have no access to the IPv6 internet, or is not configured to use it. This may in the future restrict your ability to reach IPv6-only sites. [more info] Your readiness scores 10/10 for your IPv4 stability and readiness, when publishers offer both IPv4 and IPv6 0/10for your IPv6 stability and readiness, when publishers are forced to go IPv6 only So much for TalkTalk. Peter M. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready
Thought you might like this http://test-ipv6.com/ Tim -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue