Re: [Dorset] KMail "ghost" messages after deleting from IMAP folders
On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:05:23 +0100, t...@ls83.eclipse.co.uk said: > IMHO, Thunderbird is a pretty much flawless IMAP client and has been for > many years. Gosh! Just goes to show how one man's meat is another man's poison! -- Linux Tips: https://www.tiger-computing.co.uk/category/techtips/ -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2019-05-07 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] KMail "ghost" messages after deleting from IMAP folders
On 12/04/2019 12:10, Hamish MB wrote: Interesting, cos thunderbird does this as well - I'll see if I can find an option for that in there too. I select the options to move deleted emails to a Trash folder, and to expunge this on exit. Gives you the chance to undelete any accidentally-deleted emails. IMHO, Thunderbird is a pretty much flawless IMAP client and has been for many years. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2019-05-07 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] KMail "ghost" messages after deleting from IMAP folders
On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:12:38 +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > In KMail, it seems, the setting I needed was "Automatically > > compact > > folders (expunges deleted messages)" under the "Advanced" tab of > > the settings for each relevant IMAP account. > > Is there a means to manually compact, i.e. issue an IMAP `expunge', > for when that setting isn't ticked? I can't find one. Automatic is what I wanted. -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2019-05-07 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] KMail "ghost" messages after deleting from IMAP folders
On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 11:10:58 +, Hamish MB wrote: > Interesting, cos thunderbird does this as well - I'll see if I can > find an option for that in there too. On my travels, I found this article which speaks of a mail.imap.expunge_after_delete about:config option in Thunderbird. https://news.softpedia.com/news/thunderbird-imap-expunge-or-how-to-really-delete-emails-from-the-server-492525.shtml -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2019-05-07 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] KMail "ghost" messages after deleting from IMAP folders
Hi Patrick, > In KMail, it seems, the setting I needed was "Automatically compact > folders (expunges deleted messages)" under the "Advanced" tab of the > settings for each relevant IMAP account. Is there a means to manually compact, i.e. issue an IMAP `expunge', for when that setting isn't ticked? -- Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2019-05-07 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] KMail "ghost" messages after deleting from IMAP folders
Interesting, cos thunderbird does this as well - I'll see if I can find an option for that in there too. Hamish On 12/04/2019 12:05, Patrick Wigmore wrote: > Hi List, > > For many years, I had a problem where, after deleting a message from > an IMAP folder in KMail, or moving a message from one folder to > another, it would at first appear to be deleted/moved, but then, the > next time the folder was refreshed to show what was on the server, a > "ghost" of the removed message would reappear in its original > location. The ghost could not be viewed or interacted with like a > normal message. If I logged into the webmail for the affected account, > the ghost messages would look just like normal messages. > > This problem occurred with pretty much any IMAP account from any email > service provider. > > I was going to post to ask advice about this, but I finally figured > out what the issue is. > > In IMAP, it turns out, "delete" just means something like "flag this > message for deletion during the next expunge", where "expunge" is > another operation the client can ask to be performed. The "ghost" > messages I'd been seeing were messages that were marked for deletion > but not expunged. > > In KMail, it seems, the setting I needed was "Automatically compact > folders (expunges deleted messages)" under the "Advanced" tab of the > settings for each relevant IMAP account. This causes KMail to expunge > the deleted messages pretty much straight away, eliminating the ghost > messages. > > I would not be surprised if "Automatically compact folders" is the > default and I mistakenly deselected it at some point. > > Hopefully this information will help one or two other KMail users with > the same problem. > > > > Patrick > -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2019-05-07 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
[Dorset] KMail "ghost" messages after deleting from IMAP folders
Hi List, For many years, I had a problem where, after deleting a message from an IMAP folder in KMail, or moving a message from one folder to another, it would at first appear to be deleted/moved, but then, the next time the folder was refreshed to show what was on the server, a "ghost" of the removed message would reappear in its original location. The ghost could not be viewed or interacted with like a normal message. If I logged into the webmail for the affected account, the ghost messages would look just like normal messages. This problem occurred with pretty much any IMAP account from any email service provider. I was going to post to ask advice about this, but I finally figured out what the issue is. In IMAP, it turns out, "delete" just means something like "flag this message for deletion during the next expunge", where "expunge" is another operation the client can ask to be performed. The "ghost" messages I'd been seeing were messages that were marked for deletion but not expunged. In KMail, it seems, the setting I needed was "Automatically compact folders (expunges deleted messages)" under the "Advanced" tab of the settings for each relevant IMAP account. This causes KMail to expunge the deleted messages pretty much straight away, eliminating the ghost messages. I would not be surprised if "Automatically compact folders" is the default and I mistakenly deselected it at some point. Hopefully this information will help one or two other KMail users with the same problem. Patrick -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2019-05-07 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
